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Report, edit, etc...Posted by fritfrat(U) on 2006-02-08 at 22:13:32
Well, no duh spelling errors and other blatant stuff would be annoying. However, are you saying that all maps with no errors, spelling and trigger, would get 15/15?


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Aesthetics and Professionalism (15) - Did you use one type of tile and no text color? Are there mispellings distracting me at every turn with some poorly made triggers? Hopefully you can create something that looks and feels decent. I'm not asking for extensive extended terrain or hundreds of sprites, a map with a unique feel to it should score at least an easy 10.



If yes, then I take back everything I said, admitting that the scoring system is fair and reasonable, but the description for it was misleading.

If no, then I want to know what makes the difference between a 15 and an "easy 10." I don't want to hear the examples of pathetic maps that aren't fun anyways, I want to hear the difference between a 14 and a 15. Quite frankly, the entire thing is stupid.

I don't want to bicker over little specific details. I just want to know the truth behind this grading system, which at first glance implies giving a higher rating to maps that have more eye-candy.


Better yet, why do you even NEED this section? For the awful maps that won't make it anyways?



And fwop, I recognize that sometimes you may like to see worthless eye-candy and time wasted, as it does give a different impression, but I am saying it should not be part of a grading system.

On an unrelated note, I will never agree with you. The best map I ever played was made with no extra editors.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fwop_ on 2006-02-08 at 23:20:45
The way the map is presented usually determines whether or not I'm going to finish playing through. If I feel the map maker didn't want to be the time into trying to make the map look good, why should I bother to find out if the gameplay is any different? I'm not saying that all maps which give poor first impressions are bad, I'm trying to say that how a map looks could most likely reflect the overall feel of the map.

I think that this section should be part of the scoring system. As it is meant to give a higher score with a more unique set up than another map. If the map creator intends to make the most fun map, shouldn't they at least do a decent and thorough job on setting it up? Take all the time to make it fun, but none to make it feel fun.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by fritfrat(U) on 2006-02-09 at 15:58:31
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The way the map is presented .... make the map look good, ... poor first impressions .. how a map looks ...

... a more unique set up ... on setting it up?



No matter what kind of mask you put on something, what is underneath it will always be the same. If it for some god forsaken reason makes that big of a difference in it feeling fun, then it will effect the "fun" factor that's being graded, so this section STILL isn't necessary.


I would still like a response from moose about the difference between a 10/15 and a 15/15 out of this section.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-02-09 at 17:58:19
I've never graded a single map for this contest, how can I tell you until I can provide examples?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by fritfrat(U) on 2006-02-09 at 19:11:13
I am more simply searching for an expansion of the directions of how you will be grading the maps in this area of the grading system, because I currently am not sure what exactly you mean with your current position.

I would like to clarify something else as well. Due to the fact I am not even sure how the grading system for professionalism works, all negative statements I ever made meant to be for the idea that worthless eye candy in maps is useless, not that the system was flawed.

Are you actually grading the maps? In the post, you put up the possibility of this not being the case.




Ironically, I actually have no idea if I am even going to finish on time; I found out about it a couple days after it had started, and I take a long time on my maps.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SkuLL on 2006-02-09 at 19:43:59
Who is done with this already? The due date isn't very far away and if you haven't started, I doubt you'd finish in time. Luckily I'm not participating. Maybe I'll participate in the new contest. Whether its mapmaking or gaming.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2006-02-09 at 20:39:20
Who cares?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by xszerg on 2006-02-09 at 20:49:51
Id join but i got rid of my map making thing. oh well it took up enough room for me to lag. WOOOO NEW FIREFOX.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Volcove99 on 2006-02-09 at 22:51:08
The limit really needs to be more then one week... no one has so much time to work on good maps like this -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2006-02-10 at 09:11:37
Im guessing that making a map in such a short time could give the maker a chance to show off his/her speed in making maps. If only thrice were here...

I wonder how many people will turn up for this contest. How many!?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Son) on 2006-02-10 at 15:40:17
im competeing and im almost done lol...i prob wont win tho
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2006-02-10 at 16:49:23
QUOTE(Volcove99 @ Feb 10 2006, 03:51 AM)
The limit really needs to be more then one week... no one has so much time to work on good maps like this -_-
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Your just lazy. I bet you had over 25 hours of free time this past week
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oblivion on 2006-02-10 at 17:20:32
QUOTE(T-MaStAA @ Feb 10 2006, 03:49 PM)
Your just lazy. I bet you had over 25 hours of free time this past week
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Yeah I would try to make one but I'm really lazy.

ADDITION:
Ooooh, new maps. I'll check 'em out, cuz I don't wanna make any new ones unless I got someone I know making it with me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by fritfrat(U) on 2006-02-10 at 18:25:15
Once we're done, do we just PM it to moose?


And on another note, I've already spent 2.5 hours on my map today since I got home, and I plan to finish it by spending another 2+ this evening smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cnl.Fatso on 2006-02-10 at 20:15:02
Wow. I plan to finish my map by spending 30 seconds to open Starforge and protect it.

Hell, I'll do that right now.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SkuLL on 2006-02-10 at 20:27:20
pinch.gif The map is due two days from now... I hope its going to be a real competition with a lot of participants.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cnl.Fatso on 2006-02-10 at 20:29:26
QUOTE(skull @ Feb 10 2006, 05:27 PM)
pinch.gif The map is due two days from now... I hope its going to be a real competition with a lot of participants.
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Probably not, but go right on hoping.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-02-10 at 23:37:40
I started thursday night, I don't think I can finish a map in this time. As I also have to write several papers...
Arrg, I had a good idea too...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by fritfrat(U) on 2006-02-10 at 23:45:40
I just (sort of) finished my map. 2+ hours becoming 5 hours, lol. I can't say I've ever made a map in 3 days, much less worked for 7 hours in one day on it.

The sort of is referring my problem with it randomly crashing when I play it, but I posted a topic in map making assistance for that.


How many people have actually finished?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Diggidoyo on 2006-02-11 at 00:19:24
I finished by leaving a section of it blocked off with an "under construction" powerup. Its going to take more than a couple days to work out all the bugs I somehow infected into it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2006-02-11 at 00:30:19
Its due at 12:00 saturday?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2006-02-11 at 01:22:01
I'm a nice guy, so I'm going to extend the deadline by a day.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2006-02-11 at 08:00:00
Yay, I might actually make a map then laugh.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2006-02-11 at 10:34:07
Hey cool, that gives mil and T- more time tongue.gif. They are i think both done tongue.gif. Well maybe not T-. Omg Legacy will make a map that would be crazy tongue.gif.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SkuLL on 2006-02-11 at 11:12:36
QUOTE(LegacyWeapon @ Feb 11 2006, 08:00 AM)
Yay, I might actually make a map then laugh.gif
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OMG! SERIOUSLY? Legacy will make maps once again!? confused.gif
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