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Report, edit, etc...Posted by hynk on 2005-06-11 at 07:35:57
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Blue-Ray discs can hold up to 100 gigabytes.
Wrong! It was a Blue-Ray disc prototype that can hold up to 100 gigabytes. Blue-Rays only hold up to 25GB/50GB, depending if it is dual-layer.
http://www.blu-ray.com/info/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Slyence on 2005-06-11 at 07:52:14
Actually, Krazy. There not making another one.

I read it in there monthly magazines. There also going to stop making games for all of the playstation consoles once there next console is out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by hynk on 2005-06-11 at 15:48:01
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There also going to stop making games for all of the playstation consoles once there next console is out.
Nintendo did the same thing when Game Cube came out, most likely Microsoft would do the same, but then again, maybe not.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LB_Leader on 2005-06-11 at 16:22:50
I think there both good, but i like the ps3 since both have high def graphics. Ps3 games must be good.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-06-12 at 00:47:08
QUOTE(hynk @ Jun 11 2005, 06:35 AM)
Wrong! It was a Blue-Ray disc prototype that can hold up to 100 gigabytes. Blue-Rays only hold up to 25GB/50GB, depending if it is dual-layer.
http://www.blu-ray.com/info/
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It's a working prototype, which means I'm right. Blue-Ray discs CAN hold up to 100 gigabytes.

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Dont remember who mentioned this earlier, but it IS funny, how everyone who supported xbox did so because it was more powerful, but now they say power isnt important, its the gameplay..and all the Ps2 people are the exact opposite, lol.


I hope you don't see me that way. The only reason I prefer Playstation over other consoles is because of games. I just hate seeing people going around posting lies and false information. I actually take the time to read the information.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by hynk on 2005-06-12 at 07:46:58
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I hope you don't see me that way. The only reason I prefer Playstation over other consoles is because of games. I just hate seeing people going around posting lies and false information. I actually take the time to read the information.
If it is the games your going for, get the Nintendo Revolution. It has awesome graphics and has over 2700 games when it comes out. happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-06-12 at 08:18:08
I plan on getting both, and I know I've already said that somewhere on this forum. wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-06-12 at 11:11:55
Why do Xbox fans hate PS2? Is it the only console that can stand up against Sony?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by hynk on 2005-06-12 at 15:04:56
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Why do Xbox fans hate PS2? Is it the only console that can stand up against Sony?

I don't hate Play Station II. dry.gif It just disgusts me. And I don't know why.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-06-12 at 15:12:34
I'm gonna wait. Revolution is first on my list though. Man, all those classic games smile.gif Gonna be an orgasm of fun smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by hynk on 2005-06-12 at 15:18:09
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I'm gonna wait.  Revolution is first on my list though.  Man, all those classic games smile.gif  Gonna be an orgasm of fun smile.gif
Your going to be waiting 'til sometime 2006. Have fun waiting happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-06-12 at 23:19:25
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jun 11 2005, 11:47 PM)
I hope you don't see me that way.  The only reason I prefer Playstation over other consoles is because of games.  I just hate seeing people going around posting lies and false information.  I actually take the time to read the information.
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Oh, nonono, I was referring to the fan-people that commit themselves to one company no matter what, and blatantly disregard the existence of all other companies/consoles/games.


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Why do Xbox fans hate PS2? Is it the only console that can stand up against Sony?


I am a fan of Xbox. I own a Ps2. I don't hate it. What DOES bother me though is people making statements like these that are both assumptious and insinuative. Sheesh. It's like I'm stuck in the middle of an sarcasm and innuendo war over which system is better.

Just get all of them! Duhh...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-06-13 at 09:24:16
It's about games, not the power of system. I'm not gonna play a 500 hour game if it's boring. I'd rather play a FUN 10 hour game...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bringer on 2005-06-13 at 10:13:14
Power does matter though. You wouldnt play that 10 hour fun game if it was only 8 bit. No body hardly ever played Grand Theft Auto when it was Top Downa and 2d but then it becomes 3d and its the same game but just in 3d and evry1 loves it so yes Power does matter. The thing I hate about the PS3 is that it is trying to be too powerfull which is really dumb. As for Blu-Ray it may or may not catch on. If it doesnt then Sony is censored.gif ed as a Company period b.c they are investing into making Blu-Ray Players and other assecerios. If I am right Sony, Disney and I think MGM are going Blu-Ray while Universal. Paramount and Warner Bros are going HD-DVD. Blu-Ray discs cost more than HD-DVD's to produce.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-06-13 at 10:41:28
And I will assume that Xbox 360 will fall just at bad as you said...

Xbox was too powerful compared to the PS2, wasn't it? So, it's about the company, not the games for you...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-06-13 at 10:42:25
QUOTE(Neiji @ Jun 12 2005, 08:11 AM)
Why do Xbox fans hate PS2? Is it the only console that can stand up against Sony?
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I dont disgust it, my friends doesn't disgust it, even I asked people in xbox live, do you know what they said? "Why the heck should I hate ps2?"

Only PS2 lovers hate xbox more often.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ViolentMoose on 2005-06-13 at 15:25:28
QUOTE(krazydrunkking @ Jun 13 2005, 09:42 AM)
I dont disgust it, my friends doesn't disgust it, even I asked people in xbox live, do you know what they said? "Why the heck should I hate ps2?"

Only PS2 lovers hate xbox more often.
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the only people who hate ps2 is people who own a Xbox only but not a ps2

i have all the consoles so far and i say there evenly matched

i take care of my ps2 and xbox i would never hate eather 1
Report, edit, etc...Posted by hynk on 2005-06-13 at 17:17:01
Yes, it is more common that a person hates a system because they don't have it. As for me, I used to own a Play Station II. Even when I did own it, I disgusts me, but I don't hate it. Lets just say, it bores me to death.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-06-13 at 19:15:40
QUOTE(Neiji @ Jun 13 2005, 09:41 AM)
And I will assume that Xbox 360 will fall just at bad as you said...

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He never said Ps3 was gonna fall. He said that The ps3 is "trying to be too powerful" (which I disagree on with him. Too powerful? That's a load of crap. I think you just got upset that Sony took Microsoft's one great trait out from under them: the power advantage. You can't make a console TOO powerful, unless it's near "worldwide takeover" point. In which case you can freely say that it's too powerful.), and that if Blu-ray fails in the industry, Sony is going to take a very large hit in the wallet. Think of stocks: if you invest millions of dollars in a particular company, and it goes out of businnes within the next year or two, will you suffer a financial loss? Of course. But Sony isn't just buying stocks: most of their Ps3 games are going to be produced on blu-ray discs. And if blu-ray DOES die out quickly, then Sony will either have to forfeit their backwards-compatible trait, which is something that largely attracted me to the Ps2, (I had a very extensize library of PS games, and the idea that it would no longer be absolute made me very happy to shell out the money for a Ps2) or waste money on further consoles, keeping them compatible with outdated and dead technology. And thats just in the console race. Sony is also manufacturing an extensive line of blu-ray compatible electronics.

***Personally, I believe that Blu-ray WILL take hold as the standard data storage device. It can store dramatically more than the other contenders, i.e. HD-DVD, and at a fractionally higher cost. And once it DOES go large, it will start to mass produce their product, with costs dropping accordingly.


QUOTE(Neiji @ Jun 13 2005, 09:41 AM)
Xbox was too powerful compared to the PS2, wasn't it? So, it's about the company, not the games for you...
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You DO have a point there. If the Ps3 is "stupidly more powerful" than Xbox 360, then wouldn't have Xbox been "stupidly more powerful" than Ps2? Of course, you can hardly consider these two to be on the same level. Xbox was released (someone correct me here) more than a year after Ps2, and thus its technology was far better at the time. Comparing them is like comparing the N64 to the sega 32-bit genesis. It doesn't hold up. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Bringer was right, nor am I saying you were wrong. I'm just tired of people comparing Xbox and Ps2.


However, Neiji, you should stop being so argumentative. "And I will assume that Xbox 360 will fall just at bad as you said..." You said that just because he/she said something negative about your favorite system. That's just immature. Unless, of course, you actually believe that the 360 will "fall horribly," in which case, it would certainly make your statement more convincing if you present some credible thoughts other than "Xbox sucks, Ps2 pwns, I like the games, Xbox only has Halo"

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QUOTE(Bringer(MC) @ Jun 13 2005, 09:13 AM)
Power does matter though. You wouldnt play that 10 hour fun game if it was only 8 bit. No body hardly ever played Grand Theft Auto when it was Top Downa and 2d but then it becomes 3d and its the same game but just in 3d and evry1 loves it so yes Power does matter.
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Right. the first two GTA's sucked. But not just because of the graphics...that was just a small bit of it. And noone would play a 10 hours game if it was 8-bit? Really? So explain to me the beginnings of the entire game industry? I'm not completely sure, but I don't believe everyone just instantly SPRANG into 32-bit color, high-res graphics? Or everyone just bought thier games, played them for ten minutes, and just threw them away?

Dude...misinformation=baaaad.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-06-20 at 08:36:05
I didn't read this entire thread, just browsed through it...
Well anyways, I just got done reading some shit about ps3 and 360 on ign.com and was like hmmmm.

First off, I don't know if this was mentioned at all, but xbox sucked cock with hardware. Seriously sucked it off big time... and then swallowed. Faulty dvd's up the ass and messed up internal components causing xbox meltdowns and fires (it wasn't the cords!). Personally, I own two of these faulty dvd drives. It's annoying as hell to have your game crash in the middle before or have to constantly keep restarting the box to play. Xbox has like... how many different versions of their console because they kept switching dvd roms? I've never had one single problem with ps2.

Whatever.


So far, xbox360 has more and better games in the works for it... but ps3 has a later release date.

Halo 3 for 360? Is there anything they could really add on to halo 2 to make it a worthwhile "new" game?

Anyone who said "oooo elderscrolls 4!"... rpg games as massive as that are really best on the computer. I can't imagine trying to fumble through all the commands on an xbox controller.

Sports/racing games are so lame. Does anyone actually play them? Hm.

Perfect Dark 0 on 360? LOL. They should just let that game rest in pieces.

Right now, I own ps2, xbox, and gamecube. I'll probably get both 360 and ps3, why wouldn't anyone? Why is there no "I'm getting both" option?

I dunno about revolution, as gamecube was such a big ass disappointment.

1 final fantasy release for ps3 makes it worth the buy.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-06-20 at 10:23:37
The problems with Xbox had no more problems with reading dvd's than the PS2 did (as far as I've heard ... I wonder if they're related in some way hmm....). I don't know of any other problems with the PS2. A couple people I know 'claimed' that the PS2 scratched their discs up but mine seem to be in perfect condition still, even those with well over 200 hours of gameplay on them. Though I forgot to ask them whether they stand theirs up or lay it down, I prefer traditional laydown approach.

I play racing games, but only one. Grand Turismo. It's the only racing game that isn't a joke.

I fully agree with you on Perfect Dark. When one of my friends first got Perfect Dark he kept hyping it up and shit and I went over to play it with him. My final reaction before I left his house was "So it's a horrible ripoff of GoldenEye, why don't we just play GoldenEye next time?". With the exception of the story and a couple weapons the game stole everything from GoldenEye. Who made it? Rare? Seriously they've only managed to make 3 good games. R.C. Pro-Am, Battletoads, and Goldeneye.

I don't see how the Gamecube was a dissapointment in your opinion. It brought a lot of great games. Mario Sunshine (gay but addictive, you have to admit it), Metroid Prime and Prime 2, Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (wait, it's not out yet how do you know it's good? - Nintendo hasn't let me down on any non-sequal Zelda games), Super Smash Brothers Melee, Resident Evil 4 (Nintendo didn't make it but it came out for Gamecube only ... comming for PS2 soon!), and of course Pikmin. There are more great games for GC but those are just ones I got from the top of my head.

Besides the fact that I didn't get a Gamecube or a DS, I am getting the Revolution and the PS3. X-box? I bet more than anything I will be able to get every game I want for the next-gen X-box on PS3, Nintendo Revolution, or computer. So I'm not going to bother with it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-20 at 10:41:35
Only thing i disagree with is that Gamecube is crappy for me, because im more of a... deathy? kind of video game person. Anyway, i feel gamecube ruined mario with the 3Dness, and made it even more queer. (Over the limit)

Meh whatever, maybe if gamecube had a few FPS, i wouldnt crap all over it. But if you get a Revolution instead of a Ps3 of Xbox360, your... special.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-06-20 at 12:10:03
I like slow-paced TBC RPGs the best, I don't know why. The ones I hate most are no-mistake games where you HAVE to get perfect to beat the game/time games... (DDR).

My favorite GBA game was Golden Sun... I hope there will be some more TBC games in the future...

I like TBC cuz I can make sure I have everything my way and I can keep track of everything going on instead of some crazy button mashing...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-06-20 at 16:47:43
TBC gets kinda boring after awhile...
Modified tbc like the system used in Grandia II kicks ass though. That is as probably real-time as you can get with a tbc with multiple people.

Addition: After reading some shit about FF12, I noticed Grandia III is coming out smile.gif.
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/626/626724p1.html

I had an idea though, real time combat with a rechargable meter that can be used to slow down time, in order to cast complicated spells without getting your mage killed or used to perform combo moves. Probably been done, I just haven't seen it done.

As far as gamecube, I actually played mario sunshine all the way through, but that's only because a girlfriend wanted to rent it and I played it because it was there. Zelda sucked ass so much I only played half of it and then put it down for like a year before beating it out of sheer boredom... besides that, it's really nothing new over any other game. You need to beat this dungeon in order to get to the next one because it has this item. The end fight was pretty cool though, except for the stupid tips the girl kept throwing in my face. Why not let me figure it out by myself? I only got to like level 2 on metroid prime because it was so stupid. SSBM is only good with more people, and I have no one to play at my level... could have been nice if there was online play. Mario Kart is alright, they just censored.gif ed up battle mode badly with gay maps. GIVE ME THE ORGINALS! Final fantasy chronicles was also really stupid.


Perfect Dark > Goldeneye...
I was so looking forward to PD0 for gamecube...
Than microsoft aquired rare and it was supposed to be for xbox...
This was like, 2+ years ago?
Now it's supposed to be for 360? It's like never coming out. They only have concept art or something?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2005-06-20 at 17:01:50
SWEET! FF12 OMG. I can't wait for this game to come out.! i'm a total FF Fan lol. I have heared this was going to be based on.. Ff7 somehow. But i guess i was wrong. BUt the Graphics tooking Increadable. I just need to know if any1 KNows the story about it? Or if it is based on anything like form the past Ff's. I recommend though that you all take a gander tongue.gif at this. Woo I love ps2 wink.gif.
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