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Staredit Network -> UMS Assistance -> Automatic Upgrades
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Captain.Geo on 2005-02-24 at 21:43:21
Is there anyway at all no matter how terribly innefficient it is to have an upgraded unit that you didnt upgrade yourself by clicking on the appropriate building and choosing the upgrade option. I obviously know u can change the settings on the map to have you start off with the appropriate upgrades, thats not what im looking for. Please post on this!!!!

Amend: Sorry when i meant upgrade i meant the Unit Armor and Unit Weapon upgrade for example the terran infantry armor upgrade accessible at the engineering bay
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-02-24 at 21:45:07
If you are talking about special abilities,
We have tutorials for everything!
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?tutorial=87
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-02-25 at 01:22:01
No, you can only do it with researched ablities.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2005-02-25 at 02:20:55
If you set an ability as researchable (not enabled or disabled), it's hero version will always be able to use the ability whether it has been researched yet in the game or not. That'd be the closest thing to what you're looking for I think.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Drakiel on 2005-02-25 at 02:34:03
I THINK you CAN do automatic upgrades if you do it LIKE special abilities right?
I dunno if that would work though.

Create same unit you have, for comp (that has pre-set of +1 upgrade) - and give it to human player.

But IF that worked... you'd only be able to automatically upgrade 7 times on a 1player map ;op.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2005-02-25 at 03:04:40
There is no further way to help this person, this user's question was too vague.
Wait until the post starter comes back.
I will edit this post when they eventually come back.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-02-25 at 11:20:25
QUOTE(Drakiel @ Feb 25 2005, 01:34 AM)
I THINK you CAN do automatic upgrades if you do it LIKE special abilities right?
I dunno if that would work though.

Create same unit you have, for comp (that has pre-set of +1 upgrade) - and give it to human player.

But IF that worked... you'd only be able to automatically upgrade 7 times on a 1player map ;op.
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I already said you cannot do that. And his question wasn't that vague, read the last part of his post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kyuu on 2005-02-25 at 13:40:50
QUOTE(Drakiel @ Feb 25 2005, 01:34 AM)
I THINK you CAN do automatic upgrades if you do it LIKE special abilities right?
I dunno if that would work though.

Create same unit you have, for comp (that has pre-set of +1 upgrade) - and give it to human player.

But IF that worked... you'd only be able to automatically upgrade 7 times on a 1player map ;op.
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when a unit owned by a comp player has a unit upgrade and it is given to a human player, doesnt that unit's upgrade CHANGE to what the human player's upgrade for that unit was?

ex:
human player has no upgrade for any zerg unit
computer hydra has +2 armor upgrade
somehow give that hydra to human player
same hydra has no more armor upgraded (+2)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-02-25 at 13:43:46
Chu already corrected him.
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Feb 25 2005, 11:20 AM)
I already said you cannot do that.  And his question wasn't that vague, read the last part of his post.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2005-02-25 at 18:52:06
You COULD however use the mind control ability, which would give the user that items abilities.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Captain.Geo on 2005-02-25 at 20:15:28
QUOTE(Red2Blue @ Feb 25 2005, 08:04 AM)
There is no further way to help this person, this user's question was too vague.
Wait until the post starter comes back.
I will edit this post when they eventually come back.
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Hello Captain.Geo here, what i meant is is there anyway to upgrade or own a unit with upgrades on armor or damage without having to do it manually, example: clicking on an evolution chamber to upgrade zerg carapace. So again what im asking is, anyway to have AUTOMATIC DAMAGE/ARMOR upgrades IN-GAME!!!! as in an rpg where you "gain a level" and instead of having to click on your protoss forge to make your zealot stronger it happens automatically or u somehow get a unit that has different upgrades then your current settings. I dont know i was hoping u can so some glitchy magic with extended players.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FaZ- on 2005-02-26 at 00:11:22
No, doing automated upgrades is impossible for a human player. You can make it automated for a computer by running some sort of campaign AI script and giving them the required minerals/vespene I'm pretty sure, but for a human player this is impossible.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-02-26 at 00:19:08
I don't understand the question. If you want instant upgrades, put the time in as 8739. Easy...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-02-26 at 00:43:13
QUOTE(Captain.Geo @ Feb 25 2005, 08:15 PM)
Hello Captain.Geo here, what i meant is is there anyway to upgrade or own a unit with upgrades on armor or damage without having to do it manually, example: clicking on an evolution chamber to upgrade zerg carapace. So again what im asking is, anyway to have AUTOMATIC DAMAGE/ARMOR upgrades IN-GAME!!!! as in an rpg where you "gain a level" and instead of having to click on your protoss forge to make your zealot stronger it happens automatically or u somehow get a unit that has different upgrades then your current settings.  I dont know i was hoping u can so some glitchy magic with extended players.
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As stated by Faz-, there is no way to do this. The knowledge bank of extended players is diminished because of the recent patch.
QUOTE(RexyRex @ Feb 26 2005, 12:19 AM)
I don't understand the question. If you want instant upgrades, put the time in as 8739. Easy...
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If you read two posts above yours, you wouldn't have to spam like that tongue.gif
He's asking about automatically giving upgrades to a human player without having the player click the actual upgrade button.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by in_a_biskit on 2005-02-27 at 06:51:02
Does this mean that if player2 with upgrade level 1 gives a marine (e.g. via a trigger), to player1 with upgrade level 0, that marine will automatically 'downgrade' to level 0?
If the upgrades do stay for the specific unit being given, then something like a madness map could create units for a comp with some upgrades, then give those units to the desired player.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Robi on 2005-02-27 at 08:49:15
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No, doing automated upgrades is impossible for a human player. You can make it automated for a computer by running some sort of campaign AI script and giving them the required minerals/vespene I'm pretty sure, but for a human player this is impossible.

Tell me more about that please, it interest me, what AI sccript ??? I'll give a karma to the one that answer me biggrin.gif
I ever download a map by heimdall but it didn't worked on well, ....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-02-27 at 11:36:33
QUOTE(in_a_biskit @ Feb 27 2005, 06:51 AM)
Does this mean that if player2 with upgrade level 1 gives a marine (e.g. via a trigger),  to player1 with upgrade level 0, that marine will automatically 'downgrade' to level 0?
If the upgrades do stay for the specific unit being given, then something like a madness map could create units for a comp with some upgrades, then give those units to the desired player.
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Yes the marine does 'downgrade.'
QUOTE(Robi @ Feb 27 2005, 08:49 AM)
Tell me more about that please, it interest me, what AI sccript ??? I'll give a karma to the one that answer me biggrin.gif
I ever download a map by heimdall but it didn't worked on well, ....
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There is no AI Script that does automated upgrading. There is however an AI Script list in the tutorials! That might help.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?tutorial=22
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Robi on 2005-02-27 at 12:09:15
So, is the AIs with "The computer will build all units and research abilities." good for what i want ?
exemple it cost 1 gas for computer to upgrade terran weapons, i put upg weapons at start to 3, so he don't need any buildings to continue to 255 and i give him an engeenering bay, and i give him 1gas, he will upgrade, and another gas, upgarde again ?? I'll test anyway

ADDITION :
i tested with "Terran Campaign Insane" and it don't work, would i need to test other AI ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FaZ- on 2005-02-27 at 18:36:01
[Expansion] (Insert Race) Campaign Insane – The computer will build all units, and research all technologies. After doing so, the computer will school you in the art of playing Starcraft.

Though I have not tested and am merely speculating, I assumed that if all other researchables were disabled and the computer was given the required minerals/vespene it would naturally automatically upgrade. I could easily be wrong if this doesn't work.
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