Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-02-26 at 15:26:32
So I'm looking through all this junk mail I've been getting lately concerning colleges. A few looked interesting so I was like "hmm. I'll look them up on the princeton review."
I was looking at Utah State University. I looked at the GPA and SAT requirements and basing off of my current GPA and PSAT scores I was like "perhaps this would be good" and then I read and found out that unless you were mormon, the students patronized you. Great. I'd be shunned. That was my 'best fit' too.
What Utah State Students Say About...
So I looked at DePauw University, since they were sending me a lot of stuff. A liberal arts college. I was happy. Until I read student description of the student body.
uhm...it scares me when the student body is described as narcissts. Look at this:
I go to a conservative High School, and they don't like me much. Actually, I don't like conservatives or liberals. Nutcases are funny. Some of my views drive conservatives up the wall though. *shrug* it's like this statement is saying that conservatives and liberals are segregated from each other.
So I decided "well screw that." I looked up Gustavus Adolphus, a college that has held my interest for a while.
I like I like.
^^Even better
Tuition= $28,765
I really need to get into gear to get a scholarship; my twin sister is going to college that year as well. We have about a 15k budget. Bragging time: my other sister got a three year full ride scholarship offer if she joined ROTC 
And St. Olaf was the other school I've looked at. I know someone who went there, and he said that it had a wonderful music program, but not all people involved in it are in it because it has to do with their major/minor. That's sveet.
Tuition: $25150 again...
anywho, I was wondering if my expectations were too high, or what's going on. I have found over the years that if I don't like the people around me, my work ethic goes very far down; that's why most of my decision is based on what is said about the student body. But I was thinking...maybe I need to shoot a little lower. Suggestions? Anyone want to rant with me?
I was looking at Utah State University. I looked at the GPA and SAT requirements and basing off of my current GPA and PSAT scores I was like "perhaps this would be good" and then I read and found out that unless you were mormon, the students patronized you. Great. I'd be shunned. That was my 'best fit' too.
What Utah State Students Say About...
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Student Body
The "friendly and outgoing" students of USU admit that there's "not much religious or ethnic diversity" on the Logan campus. "Most students are LDS," explains one student. "They are very religious and they have good morals." Some feel that undergrads here are "very sheltered and not aware of the outside world. I get along with them well, and they get along with each other because they are so much like one another." Warns one, "Unless you are a white Mormon at this school, you will most likely be either excluded or patronized by the other students. In terms of social tolerance, I find it hard to imagine a school with a less open, accepting attitude. I say this as a white Mormon." One student observed, "The school just passed a two-year Utah residency requirement, so there will be even more in-state Mormons at the school and less diversity than there is now." USU owes any existing diversity to its modest international population.
The "friendly and outgoing" students of USU admit that there's "not much religious or ethnic diversity" on the Logan campus. "Most students are LDS," explains one student. "They are very religious and they have good morals." Some feel that undergrads here are "very sheltered and not aware of the outside world. I get along with them well, and they get along with each other because they are so much like one another." Warns one, "Unless you are a white Mormon at this school, you will most likely be either excluded or patronized by the other students. In terms of social tolerance, I find it hard to imagine a school with a less open, accepting attitude. I say this as a white Mormon." One student observed, "The school just passed a two-year Utah residency requirement, so there will be even more in-state Mormons at the school and less diversity than there is now." USU owes any existing diversity to its modest international population.
So I looked at DePauw University, since they were sending me a lot of stuff. A liberal arts college. I was happy. Until I read student description of the student body.
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DePauw students are "typically white, upper middle class, and very preppy;" they are fastidious about both their schoolwork ("We get good grades and take our classes seriously") and their appearance ("The typical DePauw student is well dressed and well put together. They take genuine care in their outward appearance").
uhm...it scares me when the student body is described as narcissts. Look at this:
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As this is a Midwestern religiously affiliated schools, "most people are conservative," although "liberal-minded students also have a strong union and are treated the same in and out of class."
I go to a conservative High School, and they don't like me much. Actually, I don't like conservatives or liberals. Nutcases are funny. Some of my views drive conservatives up the wall though. *shrug* it's like this statement is saying that conservatives and liberals are segregated from each other.
So I decided "well screw that." I looked up Gustavus Adolphus, a college that has held my interest for a while.
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The students of Gustavus are typically "Scandinavian, tall, blonde, attractive, intelligent, and especially nice," with "about half coming from large cities and the other half from farm areas." Most are midwestern and Lutheran, which helps explain their similarities in appearance. Despite their outward similitude, however, "there is a variety of different personality types at Gustavus," so "it is not too difficult for people to find a niche." The school also has "lots of international students that fit in with everyone." Music and athletics are the two most popular extracurricular activities. Athletes tend to live on the North Side of campus, near the athletic facilities. Reports one student, "The school has a North Side/South Side division, where the students on the North Side drink more and tend to be involved in sports, [and those] living on the South Side are more likely to be involved in the fine arts and are more serious about academics."
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Hometown Saint Peter is "friendly" and Mankato, home to Minnesota State University, is only 15 miles to the south. While many at this Lutheran school are religious, "religion here is what you make of it; those who want to be highly involved will find numerous opportunities to do so, but those who don't want to be involved are not hit over the head with it."
^^Even better
Tuition= $28,765
I really need to get into gear to get a scholarship; my twin sister is going to college that year as well. We have about a 15k budget. Bragging time: my other sister got a three year full ride scholarship offer if she joined ROTC And St. Olaf was the other school I've looked at. I know someone who went there, and he said that it had a wonderful music program, but not all people involved in it are in it because it has to do with their major/minor. That's sveet.
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Student Body
One student aptly explains the "cookie-cutter" quotient at St. Olaf: "Even though I'm white and upper-middle class, I sometimes feel out of place because I'm not a blond, Lutheran, Norwegian-American." A senior adds, however, that "diversity on campus and appreciation of this diversity has increased significantly since I was a freshman." St. Olaf has an active GLOW (Gay, Lesbian, Or Whatever) club, and even amid the religious environment, sexuality issues are openly discussed. A straight, Christian student who thinks homosexuality is a sin says of a friend, "He is homosexual, and yet we have loved each other and found ways to communicate through the hard issues rather than just avoiding them or each other." Full of future Peace Corps participants, St. Olaf is home to 3,000 "good citizens" who "volunteer time both on and off campus." The resilience of the campus community was recently demonstrated when three students were tragically killed by a drunk driver. One student writes, "I know it sounds morbid, but our campus was at its best when these kids died because you could really see what a family we are here at Olaf."
One student aptly explains the "cookie-cutter" quotient at St. Olaf: "Even though I'm white and upper-middle class, I sometimes feel out of place because I'm not a blond, Lutheran, Norwegian-American." A senior adds, however, that "diversity on campus and appreciation of this diversity has increased significantly since I was a freshman." St. Olaf has an active GLOW (Gay, Lesbian, Or Whatever) club, and even amid the religious environment, sexuality issues are openly discussed. A straight, Christian student who thinks homosexuality is a sin says of a friend, "He is homosexual, and yet we have loved each other and found ways to communicate through the hard issues rather than just avoiding them or each other." Full of future Peace Corps participants, St. Olaf is home to 3,000 "good citizens" who "volunteer time both on and off campus." The resilience of the campus community was recently demonstrated when three students were tragically killed by a drunk driver. One student writes, "I know it sounds morbid, but our campus was at its best when these kids died because you could really see what a family we are here at Olaf."
Tuition: $25150
again...anywho, I was wondering if my expectations were too high, or what's going on. I have found over the years that if I don't like the people around me, my work ethic goes very far down; that's why most of my decision is based on what is said about the student body. But I was thinking...maybe I need to shoot a little lower. Suggestions? Anyone want to rant with me?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2005-02-26 at 17:33:27
I would suggest visiting these places that you like, and perhaps taking a year off if none of them pique your interest. Actually, I took a year and a half off, and it was probably the best decision of my life. I saved up a bunch of money and was able to realize what I wanted to do. What I would do, FK, is figure out exactly how you want to spend your life - acting, directing, administrating, or whatever. Look for colleges that makes sense in the academic sense first. Then sort them out based on the attitudes of the students. If you discover a lack of diversity at a particular college, cross that one off of your list. If you want diversity, keep your eye out for big schools, with 10,000 or more students. There are tons of schools like that all over the country. Even in Boston there's Boston University, Northeastern University, Boston College, and Tufts University, to name a few. I have friends who go to BU for drama, by the way. You might want to check that out. A big school will provide you with a diverse student body and a strong focus on several different fields of study, so you'll meet people with similar interests as well as interests greatly diverging from yours.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-02-26 at 19:58:16
Yes, I see now that I'm an idiot.
On princeton review, it asked about how many people you want on campass. I chose pretty small numbers. I'll go change that.
Where would I be without you, Nozomu?
On princeton review, it asked about how many people you want on campass. I chose pretty small numbers. I'll go change that.
Where would I be without you, Nozomu?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2005-02-26 at 21:22:54
go to a party school in massachusetts, like harvard, then u can take me there and we can go meet hot chix [/sarcasm]
but yea when i talked to you, u seemed so stressed about this, meh, im not thinking about college yet, but i wish you the best of luck
but yea when i talked to you, u seemed so stressed about this, meh, im not thinking about college yet, but i wish you the best of luck
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-02-26 at 21:26:36
thanks.
My mom sorta wants me to go to
enson...I don't really want to.
oh hey what is BU extended, nozomu? is that Boston University?
uhm...it censored a school name?
My mom sorta wants me to go to
enson...I don't really want to.oh hey what is BU extended, nozomu? is that Boston University?
uhm...it censored a school name?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NeoNightmareX on 2005-02-26 at 21:33:12
go to the big F-U (florida university for those who dont watch MadTv)
(lol lorraine went to FU)
(lol lorraine went to FU)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Nozomu on 2005-02-27 at 03:20:42
Boston University.