Staredit Network

I want to start making maps, and i have no clue what to download. I used to make a few melee maps, and i tried to make a bound but quit halfway through it. So if there are any map making expert out there to tell me what to dl, and maybe some help while making the bound i will add you in the map or map description somehow.

dl means download. You don't need to 'dl' a map to make one. Find the kind that you like most (Madness, Bound, Defense, RPG, etc) and I/someone else can help you out.

To make the "bound" terrain, You can download starforge, And use the square terrain, So it's neat, Or you can do something like Kamikaze's bound, With regular terrain, You can also use starforge to do trigger's, But starforge's trigger's aren't for noob's, So if you don't want to do triggers in starforge, Download SCXE, And do the trigger's there.

Well, don't ask what to download, because you NEED nothing to start making maps (no additional programs, that is).

I would suggest to you NOT to get any additional programs, they will only complicate things for a "noob".

I would suggest going into your starcraft folder, opening up the program "Staredit", then go to File, Open, into go into folder:
Starcraft/Maps/Campaign
And find the files (1)Enslavers01 (etc, etc for the rest of the enslavers campaigns)

This is your best bet for a beginer to learn things in Staredit.

Open the map, look at the LOCATIONS placed around the map, see what they're labeled, then go into TRIGGERS and see what they changed, etc. Then try to duplicate it.

Do the same with other maps with simple triggers. SIMPLE TRIGGERS being the key. (Simple triggers are normally MASS Maps, you can learn a lot from 'em because they're the easiest to make)

It isn't really the programs so much as the mapper. While the basic editors ARE limited, you still have to learn the basics that are in every editor. I reccomend using the Campaign Editor's Help File, looking at some other maps, the tutorials here, asking questions here, and just simple experimentation, trial and error.

I 2nd that motion. That's how I learned and believe that many others did. (To me, without the asking part. Only been asking things on mapping recently and very rarely.)

Like i said, i have made a bound before. I used some program that made the terrain be square, but i forgot what. Need two programs i guess,
Terrain editor
Trigger formator(or whatever you guys call it)

so tell me what is the best to start out with please.

Well, for square terrain, I'd recomend StarForge. http://www.staredit.net/index.php?download=1525

And I'm not sure what you mean by "Trigger Formatter", but SCXE is a good editor that can preform trigger actions impossible with regular Staredit.
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?download=167

And here's the SCXE Fix (it makes your life alot easier)
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?download=302

Good luck, happy mapping.

Well i did dl starforge, and it looks like i can do triggers there..
so can you do everthing from making the map to setting up the triggers there?
I made a map layout, and am starting to rename units, briefing and all that fun stuff

This is useful for reference when making a bound
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?download=2195

thanks for that link, but im getting this error when i try to look at my map in game.


I dont have any trigers set, i just have a little briefing data and i changed the units name. I have set 6 different start locations, not overlapping and 6 different lings. so what is wrong?

I suggest just looking at what the triggers need. Triggers are basically the only things that take much effort to learn, just because of the sheer number (Not saying everything else isnt important, I have mad respect for good terrainers). The units, briefings, etc is very easy to learn and is rather self-explanitory. For triggers you just need to go through them (in whatever you would like, I suggest StarForge because it works better but SCXE is fine for more guided triggering) and see what they need and what they do. Also look at the Blizzard website and they actually have a list of all the triggers and actions. And then read through the tutorial db when you have the time (I did it in about 2 hours, but you could just do one skill level at a time or one section at a time to break it up). Some people dont like StarForge triggering, but that is because they are used to the drop down lists in the StarEdit based editors. But StarForge's triggering is very WYSIWYG and should at least be tried. The drop down lists are just replaced by the box at right. And of course, read the help files in each editor if you have something that you dont know how to do (or come here!)
And be sure to sleep, because your brain puts things from short term to long term memory while you sleep.

You aren't supposed to play the map, it was designed to be looked at only. Of course you can fix it

need some help with triggers, anyone feeling like helping me on sc or something? Just some simple triggers that you guys will think are easy

No offence in ANY way shape or form man... but personally I wouldn't help a noob learn triggers because of the sheer volume of them.

I mean do what I said, open up the TRIGGERS on those campign maps I told you and learn 'em that way, EASY stuff really.

Ignore them about getting other programs, you don't need them at this point.

BASICALLY a trigger is just...

Player, Condition, Action
Player 1-8, All, Force

Force = if any player on that force meets conditions, then the action will happen to all players on that force.
Same for All.

A simple trigger is this.

Player 1
Condition:
Commands at least 1 marine
Action:
Display Text Message: "You now have a marine"

The most used action is - PRESERVE - preserve wil happen forever until the player no longer meets conditions.

Player 1
Condition:
Commands at least 1 marine
Action:
Display Text Message: "You now have a marine"
Preserve

When the player gets 1 marine - they wil be SPAMMED LIKE CRAZY with "You now have a marine" repeated FOREVER - until that marine dies...

Basic Triggers - (Again, no offence, but...) learn the rest on your own bud.... noone wants to sit here and explain every one of them to use.
There is a trigger list:

Actions Here: http://www.staredit.net/index.php?tutorial=23
Conditions Here: http://www.staredit.net/index.php?tutorial=75

Good luck man. It's not that easy to get someone to spend 2 hours of their day explaining to you step by step.

From what you've said my guess is that you used SCMDraft 2 + it's TriggEdit Beta plugin.
It's within the dl's resource center.

My personal choice is SCXE (Base Mode) and all the way, exceptionally SCMDraft 2 or even StarForge for the SFX on terrain, such as squared tiles.

Edit reason: Providing linkage.