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Report, edit, etc...Posted by InFeReAl_KiLlA on 2005-03-12 at 16:00:39

What is the least used unit in Starcraft Melee games? I think Vultures are the least used because they are VERY weak, but the upside is that they are fast and have Spidey Mines

Too bad I think people are going to disagree with me..

Report, edit, etc...Posted by pekkel_the_duck on 2005-03-12 at 16:11:29

I think Dark Archons for toss, because they are hard to use.

Queen for Zerg. Never really seen any games where zerg uses a queen..

Report, edit, etc...Posted by InFeReAl_KiLlA on 2005-03-12 at 16:17:53

QUOTE(pekkel_the_duck @ Mar 12 2005, 04:11 PM)

I think Dark Archons for toss, because they are hard to use.

Queen for Zerg. Never really seen any games where zerg uses a queen..
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I have to agree, but they both are very good units... if used correctly...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by SA_Max71 on 2005-03-12 at 18:59:26

But on the other hand, the dark archon can steal the queen by using mind control, or it can kill it using feedback. The queen can't kill the dark archon using spawn broodlings because it isn't considered a biological unit. (I wonder why?)

Report, edit, etc...Posted by InFeReAl_KiLlA on 2005-03-12 at 21:02:42

Are you serious?! Queens can't kill Dark Archons?! WTF.... But let's say the Queen parasited the Dark Archon and then the Dark Archon Mind Controlled the Queen. Would that consider as a parasite for the original owner of the Queen or that the Parasite is now for the Dark Archon owner?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cnl.Fatso on 2005-03-12 at 23:54:22

It's still for the Zerg player.

Anyways, I would have to say that if Valkyries worked, they would be used more.

Vultures are actually quite frequently used, even in money maps.

But I have an underused unit for each race:

Zerg: Defiler. At least at the amateur level, anyway, this unit is used far too little of the time.

Terran: Ghost. You don't see a lot of these in any type of game, be it normal or money (although I sometimes will go for a nuke or two).

Protoss: Scout. Scouts are perfect anti-Carriers (for all you money-map compstomp backstabbers out there). But they hardly are ever used. Granted, they are rather weak when compared to, say, the two Dragoons you could have gotten for that price.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-03-13 at 00:07:12

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(I wonder why?)

Supposing you're not being sarcastic, it's because they are, supposedly, large masses of Psionic energies, and thus have little to no physical mass for the Broodling parasites to eat.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by InFeReAl_KiLlA on 2005-03-13 at 10:22:10

QUOTE(EzDay2 @ Mar 13 2005, 12:07 AM)

Supposing you're not being sarcastic, it's because they are, supposedly, large masses of Psionic energies, and thus have little to no physical mass for the Broodling parasites to eat.
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WTF?! Where did you get the idea of Broodlings eating physical mass...?!

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Anyways, I would have to say that if Valkyries worked, they would be used more.

Vultures are actually quite frequently used, even in money maps.

But I have an underused unit for each race:

Zerg: Defiler. At least at the amateur level, anyway, this unit is used far too little of the time.

Terran: Ghost. You don't see a lot of these in any type of game, be it normal or money (although I sometimes will go for a nuke or two).

Protoss: Scout. Scouts are perfect anti-Carriers (for all you money-map compstomp backstabbers out there). But they hardly are ever used. Granted, they are rather weak when compared to, say, the two Dragoons you could have gotten for that price

I haven't even seen people use vultures in melee maps, let alone money maps...

Defilers PWN, if used correctly...

Scouts are anti-air but I didn't know they were anti-carriers... I use Scouts as.. scouts..

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Puni(F) on 2005-03-13 at 10:25:49

Archons....Haven't really seen any archon strategys out there...Alot...I use it sometime...But other then that...Archons.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tazzy on 2005-03-13 at 10:54:38

Hard to say, Ive seen people use all the untis said above to very good use... Im not to sure though

maybe the SCV,Probe,Drone... Considering the fact you only use for moneya nd building so yea, They are the least used unit int he game...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rhiom on 2005-03-13 at 21:52:20

QUOTE(Puni @ Mar 13 2005, 07:25 AM)

Archons....Haven't really seen any archon strategys out there...Alot...I use it sometime...But other then that...Archons.
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archons id say are used quite fequently, but only to complement a force, not to comprise the main percentile of it.

Also for the above archon mc queen after being parasited, if you have a terran player in game u mc medic and use restoration

Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-03-13 at 21:53:49

QUOTE(Tazzy @ Mar 13 2005, 09:54 AM)

You don't watch many pro replays, do you?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by indecisiveman on 2005-03-13 at 22:34:05

As for me I think Devourers are the least used in the games. I hardly EVER see a devourer. I guess you can argue that medics are also very rare. Not for me anyways but oh well.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-03-13 at 23:13:07

Vultures are commonly used, as they can easily get past defenses and 2-3 shots will kill any worker. If they become weak, you can swap to spider mines which are very effective in damage, are good scouts, and can attack cloaked units.

Scouts aren't used as much since they cost too much for what they do. Corsairs are much cheaper and faster, and they come with a useful ability as well. If you need Air to Ground attacks, I don't see why you can't use Carriers.

Money maps and melee maps are 2 different things.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-03-13 at 23:22:12

Independent Command Center.
When do you ever see a guy use one of those?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by pekkel_the_duck on 2005-03-13 at 23:39:24

Another most underused unit is....

Infested Terran. I have never seen anyone use them in a pro or regular replay. They are just too much of a hassel to use, but I think you might be able to drop 4 into a base and do much havoc.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-03-14 at 09:12:58

They don't use Devourers because they don't think they are good.
"Eww they attack so slow and suck!"
"Wonder what acid spores do..."
Devourers with mutalasiks eat away air units. The mutalisk "worm thingy" (their attack ) plus the acid spores add up so if they have 9 acid spores it will be 12+9 damage to the air unit.

You guys probably already knew that but just to point it out.

Science Vessle is hardly every used for their Matrix shields, irridate and EMP. People usually use them just to detect things.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-03-14 at 10:00:32

Am I alloed to use buildings?
Shield Battery

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And the unit is Infested Terran, nobody can ever get one

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-03-14 at 10:26:48

Underused = Ghosts.

You won't see any of em except if the opponenent is going Carriers or BC. Useful for backup. Good against Zerg also, since they pwn Lings in 2 hits (while the rest of the M&M&F get the rest).

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Darcan on 2005-03-14 at 12:01:09

i think valkyries is the underused unit to terran, every one i have played with has never use a valkyrie.

to zerg i think it is scourge, but i think it is a very good unit to all kind of air. it's really good on terran bulldings when they have used their lift of.

to protoss it's the dark archon. it's bad because it has great magics.

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QUOTE(Chris @ Mar 14 2005, 04:26 PM)

ghost are not good agaist zerg if they clocked it's no idea anyway zerg has overlords everywhere in a zerg camp...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-03-14 at 12:10:21

I don't see the average terran player use vultures too much (they're considered too risky to use, in case the enemy goes goons). I, however, love using them to piss people off. 8 of them dropped in someone's worker line =

They're good at speeding past static defenses too, like a German blitzkrieg.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-03-14 at 13:23:29

Underused units would be...

Zerg: broodlings
Terran: vultures
protoss: shuttles

That's just my guess.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chef on 2005-03-14 at 14:19:28

Wow... who are you guys playing? You're naming units people use all the time. TvT Vultures are used all the time... TvP Vultures are used all the time. Against a Zerg going Ultra ling or guardians mealstorm is used a lot. Queens and Defliers are used a lot. If the Zerg player won you better beleive they used one of those. Ghost's are used when people in TvT want to get cute and use lock down... especially against BC's if they're in transit. The scout is seldom used because coarsairs are a lot better. Archons are definitly used a lot. I havn't seen a PvZ without them. Devourers are used a lot especially when the enemy appears to be going carriers. Science Vessel spells are used all the time... especially irradiate... it just owns so good. If by underused you mean the unit that is hardly ever used but really useful I would say there's no such thing they're all used. If you pointed a gun to my head and asked me again I would say valks but only because people never want to get what they counter.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2005-03-15 at 12:49:54

QUOTE(PsychoTemplar @ Mar 14 2005, 01:19 PM)

Apparently, we play newbs on fastest possible maps

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-03-16 at 19:43:10

I've been hanging around with people on bnet that like to play melee (coughcough ApeRaPe Lol). I've seen lots of reps and games, and I would say vultures are used A LOT like psychotemplar said, like in TvP

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