Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-03-31 at 21:18:52
http://www.cnet.com/4520-6033_1-5666404-1.html?tag=nl.e501
What a tool, I swear. Heres my response: click
If you dont feel like opening a new page, here it is:
What a tool, I swear. Heres my response: click
If you dont feel like opening a new page, here it is:
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Seriously, "Molly", you're obviously seriously misinformed about Internet Explorer all the way.
You're absolutely right. Internet explorer is sometimes required to view webpages. Why is that? Because Internet Explorer isn't complying with universal internet standards. If you actually did a little homework instead of posting like a know-it-all, then you would find that IE doesn't support PNG or the new CSS properly. IE is behind in the times.
People are abandoning Internet Explorer, for a good reason. Its flawed. It was poorly designed. All they did with all the previous versions of Internet explorer, was increment the version number, slap in a modified skin, fixed a few of the things they screwed up on, and proudly slapped on the microsoft logo.
It is still not user friendly, slow, gives you spyware, has many security loopholes which never get fixed, and they update internet explorer just about as fast it took me to realize how much research you did. Never.
Personally, I'm into web design , and its frankly annoying to have to bend over to IE just because a couple of misinformed users like you need to browse the internet with a timebomb.
Looking on the bright side though, if you keep using internet explorer, your computer will eventually stop working, and you will be unable to write any further unresearched articles to waste my time with.
The plugins and abilities on Firefox far surpass Internet Explorer. Blocking mainstream ads, no popups, tabbed browsing, wonderful downloads manager, awesome skins, faster browsing and much more. Firefox is for the people.
Firefox > Internet Explorer.
Times I had to switch to Internet Explorer: Zero.
Times Firefox crashed: Zero.
Times Internet Explorer crashed: One Trillion.
You're absolutely right. Internet explorer is sometimes required to view webpages. Why is that? Because Internet Explorer isn't complying with universal internet standards. If you actually did a little homework instead of posting like a know-it-all, then you would find that IE doesn't support PNG or the new CSS properly. IE is behind in the times.
People are abandoning Internet Explorer, for a good reason. Its flawed. It was poorly designed. All they did with all the previous versions of Internet explorer, was increment the version number, slap in a modified skin, fixed a few of the things they screwed up on, and proudly slapped on the microsoft logo.
It is still not user friendly, slow, gives you spyware, has many security loopholes which never get fixed, and they update internet explorer just about as fast it took me to realize how much research you did. Never.
Personally, I'm into web design , and its frankly annoying to have to bend over to IE just because a couple of misinformed users like you need to browse the internet with a timebomb.
Looking on the bright side though, if you keep using internet explorer, your computer will eventually stop working, and you will be unable to write any further unresearched articles to waste my time with.
The plugins and abilities on Firefox far surpass Internet Explorer. Blocking mainstream ads, no popups, tabbed browsing, wonderful downloads manager, awesome skins, faster browsing and much more. Firefox is for the people.
Firefox > Internet Explorer.
Times I had to switch to Internet Explorer: Zero.
Times Firefox crashed: Zero.
Times Internet Explorer crashed: One Trillion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-03-31 at 21:45:10
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what with most sites using that pesky nonstandard IE code
OM
ING GODThere is no "IE CODE". There's only CSS, DOM, JAVA, HTML, XHTML, ,and others. IE is supposed to comply to those standards, not make a "IE code", and that's exactly what they did.
Gr.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-03-31 at 21:47:28
Firefox will eventually end up like IE if people puts too much trust on it 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-03-31 at 21:47:35
FYI: Me and Isolated Purity have to actually make a SEPERATE css file for itnernet explorer so it doesn't mess up the page. Thats how bad it is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-03-31 at 21:48:38
Which is why you should ONLY support Firefox. Enforce your oppinions, and make the site completly non-compatible for IE. It'll teach all these f*#$(*@!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-03-31 at 21:52:57
QUOTE(Chris @ Mar 31 2005, 09:48 PM)
Which is why you should ONLY support Firefox. Enforce your oppinions, and make the site completly non-compatible for IE. It'll teach all these f*#$(*@!!
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-03-31 at 22:00:35
Wtf? This is one dumb bitch.
Because it automatically checks and tells you if you need an update. It doesn't, get Mozilla and use the quicklaunch feature if your computer is that inferior. It doesn't. Get a new computer if yours is really that inferior.
Those are som false accusations she likes throwing around.
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Why is there no way to check for updates from within the browser, for one thing? Why does it take so doggone long to launch? Why, why must it crash every single time I open a PDF?
Because it automatically checks and tells you if you need an update. It doesn't, get Mozilla and use the quicklaunch feature if your computer is that inferior. It doesn't. Get a new computer if yours is really that inferior.
Those are som false accusations she likes throwing around.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-03-31 at 22:00:50
Firefox still bugs me when I use it... I don't know why. I suppose its just because I'm not used to it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2005-03-31 at 22:10:07
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IE doesn't support PNG
If your talking about an image extention of .png, it does support it.
Anyways, I don't really care. I don't like firefox, I don't like IE, I don't like any. I use IE because mine is pretty much as good as Firefox is supposed to be with only a few addons. But meh, I'll never get Firefox again, I just didn't like it. If worse comes to worse, I'll code my own
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-03-31 at 22:13:08
PNG? Sure IE can display a PNG ... but it doesn't support everything the PNG was made for. And it certainly won't support APNG ... probably ever.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-03-31 at 22:16:50
Here's IE's support for alpha transparency in .png:
Now here's real support:
Now here's real support:
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-03-31 at 22:26:56
Not only that, look at these drastic differences in the quote feature and my sig:
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2005-03-31 at 22:28:28
Call me crazy, but I know it does look different, but I like the IE one better. Just me, but I do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-03-31 at 22:29:00
I won't call you crazy, but I would call you something else.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2005-03-31 at 22:30:41
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Not only that, look at these drastic differences in the quote feature and my sig:
I see no difference between the quote boxes, and the only difference I see between your sig, is that in your "Godly" Browser, it's much harder to read, and I have to get like right next to the screen to see it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-03-31 at 22:35:36
Hahah, she is so freaken retarded. No idea what's shes talking about.
Crashing everytime on pdf files? Um, I'll admit it's sometimes slow to load it on my computer, but it works way better to IE. Spyware? Times I've had to run Ad-aware when using IE: 3 times per day. Since I've started to use Firefox: 3 times per month. And even then, I get none.
Not to mention open source, extensions, themes, and simply a better interface. Crashes? Pfft, never had a crash. Ever.
Firefox will always beat Explore because it's made by dedicated people, not people who are paid to do a crappy job.
Crashing everytime on pdf files? Um, I'll admit it's sometimes slow to load it on my computer, but it works way better to IE. Spyware? Times I've had to run Ad-aware when using IE: 3 times per day. Since I've started to use Firefox: 3 times per month. And even then, I get none.
Not to mention open source, extensions, themes, and simply a better interface. Crashes? Pfft, never had a crash. Ever.
Firefox will always beat Explore because it's made by dedicated people, not people who are paid to do a crappy job.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-03-31 at 22:48:51
Exactly cheeze!
The only time I ever use IE is when I'm at a friends house. He can't go to firefox's site because his dad blocked it. *cough works for Microsoft *cough
The only time I ever use IE is when I'm at a friends house. He can't go to firefox's site because his dad blocked it. *cough works for Microsoft *cough
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-03-31 at 22:50:05
QUOTE(Shmeeps @ Mar 31 2005, 09:30 PM)
I see no difference between the quote boxes, and the only difference I see between your sig, is that in your "Godly" Browser, it's much harder to read, and I have to get like right next to the screen to see it.
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Oh I didn't know you were one of those "ZOMG I CANT SEE" people. Yeah being blind does hinder your ability to see the benefits of Firefox.
My resolution is at 1280x1024 and I can read my sig clearly 5 feet away from the screen. You have to be blind or have a screen resolution 2x that or have a really tiny monitor or a combination of those to have trouble reading my sig.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-03-31 at 22:56:21
Hey um, speaking of APNG has it been developed yet? I'd like to try it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-03-31 at 23:50:59
Theres one huge problem with firefox. And that is, that theres not enough to complain about. Thus, this stupid lady, has to make things up to complain about, so other horrible morons will think shes smart somehow, follow her instructions, get loaded with spyware, and their computer dies.
Hmm... maybe this isn't so bad afterall.
Hmm... maybe this isn't so bad afterall.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-04-01 at 01:07:29
QUOTE(ShadowBrood @ Mar 31 2005, 09:56 PM)
Hey um, speaking of APNG has it been developed yet? I'd like to try it.
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Yes but I'm pretty sure Mozilla won't support it until ***, sorry I dont know when they will support it. It will probably in the near future (1 or 2 years). Just Google it. :/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-04-01 at 01:30:33
Yeah I did but I couldn't find any plugins for photoshop or imageready to save a file as an APNG.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-04-01 at 01:35:48
*RexyRex is lost.
Umm, I just want my tabbed browsing and a sexier SEN.
Firefox: The load times are slower and and the bootup times suck.
IE: Have to putup with the goddamn errors all over the place and it's scrollbars suck. SUCK.
Overall I use IE, becuase I don't like waiting. I bet for most everyone firefox goes 200% faster than IE. It's most likley my computer or gay DSL.
Oh well
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Umm, I just want my tabbed browsing and a sexier SEN.
Firefox: The load times are slower and and the bootup times suck.
IE: Have to putup with the goddamn errors all over the place and it's scrollbars suck. SUCK.
Overall I use IE, becuase I don't like waiting. I bet for most everyone firefox goes 200% faster than IE. It's most likley my computer or gay DSL.
Oh well
.Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-04-01 at 03:29:02
Firefox only sucks for loading huge tables (like in phpmyadmin ;/). Boot up times are a little longer and memory usage is a lot bigger, but it's worth it. Also, I think IE 7.0 will be a stand alone product and not embedded into the OS, meaning, it'll probably have just the same effects as firefox.
Firefox's download manager sucks, IE doesn't have one.
Firefox likes to download pages sometimes instead of navigating them. I also get a lot of "document contains no data" popups constantly, and firefox does not like frames it seems. Could just be phpmyadmin though, but, firefox gets annoying inside it.
IE's annoyances greatly outweigh firefox's though, and I'm sure firefox will fix them soon. And teb page developer plugin is so sexy,
for yoshi for showing me it.
I need to find a sexy firefox skin.
If IE 7.0 has it's own seperate priority code, away from standards and ie 6.0 even, I refuse to code for it. Either they it up again EXACTLY like 6.0 or comply to standards fully. I'm not going to deal with three different styles for one page because of microsoft.
We'll see.
Firefox's download manager sucks, IE doesn't have one.
Firefox likes to download pages sometimes instead of navigating them. I also get a lot of "document contains no data" popups constantly, and firefox does not like frames it seems. Could just be phpmyadmin though, but, firefox gets annoying inside it.
IE's annoyances greatly outweigh firefox's though, and I'm sure firefox will fix them soon. And teb page developer plugin is so sexy,
for yoshi for showing me it.I need to find a sexy firefox skin.
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Which is why you should ONLY support Firefox.
If IE 7.0 has it's own seperate priority code, away from standards and ie 6.0 even, I refuse to code for it. Either they
it up again EXACTLY like 6.0 or comply to standards fully. I'm not going to deal with three different styles for one page because of microsoft.We'll see.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-04-01 at 11:04:38
That woman sounds like the person who likes to be controversial just because she can be.
I expect she doesn't know anything about the Internet beyond the World Wide Web and e-mail, either.
I expect she doesn't know anything about the Internet beyond the World Wide Web and e-mail, either.