Report, edit, etc...Posted by FizzleBoink on 2004-02-18 at 04:36:58
I'm in dire need of a map protector... jesus... First, I got ProEdit 1.1, which screwed my strings, then I got TogiKon Protector, which massively increased map kb size, and then I got Map Protector, which I can't work due to "Old Mpq" or dead "Import".
Someone give me a sign!!!
Someone give me a sign!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-02-18 at 07:28:29
If you dont got sounds, try starforge.
I'm trying to find a decent protector for the DLDB, but theres none in sight.
I'm trying to find a decent protector for the DLDB, but theres none in sight.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-02-18 at 08:32:16
Why aren't you making one then ;P
Dunno how hard it would be though...
Dunno how hard it would be though...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-02-18 at 11:17:03
I know nothing about opening MPQ's and editing them for protection. I can do it manually thru hexing, but other than that...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-02-18 at 11:43:43
Then we should make a video tutorial on how to hex your maps, for those who don't have any idea that it even existed before 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rayne on 2004-02-18 at 12:38:19
You know what... thats not a bad idea at all... i would definatly love and even use the tutorial on how to manually hex a map for protection.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-02-18 at 13:56:31
But if he shows you how to manually hex it then you can probably unhex it. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Volka on 2004-02-18 at 14:01:54
Both SCMtoolkit and GUEdit support map protection.
I usually use GUEdit,some people say it offers a best level of protection than other protectors,but it's the same for me.
I usually use GUEdit,some people say it offers a best level of protection than other protectors,but it's the same for me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-02-18 at 14:02:18
Well hexing is still one-way, no? It's just that, at one step of the map, you have to do YOUR own part to hex your map... I mean, you can't end up with 3846386 ways to hex your map, there's one way to do it and then it up to anyone else... no?
If not, sorry, bad idea xD
If not, sorry, bad idea xD
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2004-02-18 at 21:07:31
Starforge is the same as GUEdit's protection btw.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-02-18 at 21:09:13
Uh... no its not.
SCMtoolkit and GUedit are both vunerable to SCU, but starforge isn't.
SCMtoolkit and GUedit are both vunerable to SCU, but starforge isn't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2004-02-18 at 21:23:36
You're Wrong.
Actually starforge protection is unprotectable (if that's a word). Go ahead try it, I just did. It would have to be similar to either of the previous protection methods, and that was the point I was trying to make in my previous post.
Actually starforge protection is unprotectable (if that's a word). Go ahead try it, I just did. It would have to be similar to either of the previous protection methods, and that was the point I was trying to make in my previous post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WaserReborn on 2004-02-18 at 21:36:51
Now i only have 1 question about ALL this.
Ok here it goes:
What the hell is hex a map?
Ok here it goes:
What the hell is hex a map?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2004-02-18 at 21:45:42
Opening a map with a hex editor and changing some variables. Modifying different ones will result in different effects such as player colors.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by WaserReborn on 2004-02-18 at 21:51:46
AHHHHHHHH........ I still dont get it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-02-18 at 22:02:06
Its too advanced... its a whole new number system.
You know how our current number system has 10 possible digits? (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9).
Hex has 16 (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B, C, E, F, G)
You know how our current number system has 10 possible digits? (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9).
Hex has 16 (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, A, B, C, E, F, G)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SpaceBoy2000 on 2004-02-18 at 22:24:08
Basically, in simple terms, hex code ids the actual machine code of a file, and we're just modifying it so that StarEdit and map unprotectors can't unprotect it. Although in order to make it unprotectable, you'd have to have a unique style of editting the map.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2004-02-19 at 18:20:10
I think that would be harder for him to understand. For me, atleast.
Now, I don't know anough about Hexing, cor correct me if I'm wrong...
Think of hexing this way...
the map is put into text, each symbol(i.e. 1, a, 7) meaning something. Like something might mean the color that player so-and-so will be. You modify or add or delete or whatever some bit of text and that makes it so that SE doesn't know how to understand it, but StarCraft DOES.
I hope that's good enough, and correct.
Now, I don't know anough about Hexing, cor correct me if I'm wrong...
Think of hexing this way...
the map is put into text, each symbol(i.e. 1, a, 7) meaning something. Like something might mean the color that player so-and-so will be. You modify or add or delete or whatever some bit of text and that makes it so that SE doesn't know how to understand it, but StarCraft DOES.
I hope that's good enough, and correct.