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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Still_MatiC on 2005-04-10 at 15:17:41
Most people always refuse to buy a xbox because they think it only has to offer Halo and halo 2. Well I'll name some classic titles that are seriously overlooked when people say that. This is from a console perspective though, so games that are also for PC should be considered exlusive.

-Ninja Gaiden
-Dead or Alive 3
-KOTOR
-KOTOR 2
-Halo
-Halo 2
-Guilty Gear X2 reloaded (this version has online play whereas the ps2 version doesn't)
-Guilty Gear Isuka (this version has online play whereas the ps2 version doesn't)
-Fable
-Doom 3 (for those that don't have a really good computer)
-Fuzion Frenzy (like mario party, but not nintendo like)
-Blinx
-Blinx 2
-Close Combat: First to Fight
-Unreal Championship


Also when it comes to games where its on three platforms, XBOX usually has the best version in graphics and sound. Custom Soundtracks is a big bonus.

PS2 and gamecube probably have more exclusives, but when you think about it, an xbox isn't such a one-dimensional system everyone thinks it is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lisk on 2005-04-10 at 16:44:32
It still blows.
PCs own the game industry.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ferral on 2005-04-10 at 17:01:26
Why?
Atleast on Xbox Live, you have a decent idea of what your talking to, on the "internet" you have no clue. You could be talking to some 39 year old child molester, who just happens to talk intelligent, and he is one of your "friends".
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheOddAngel on 2005-04-10 at 17:12:39
Adding To The List Are Some Of My Favorite Games:

-SplinterCell
-SplinterCell Pandora Tommarow
-SplinterCell Chaos Theory
-Rainbow Six3 Black Arrow
-Ghost Recon2
-Mechassault 1
-Mechassault 2
-Crimson Skies (A Fun Plane Dogfighting Game)

All those have Online play exept the first Splintercell But it is a
good game none the less
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-04-10 at 17:15:07
You can't forget Unreal Championship 2.
It's not out yet, but when it is, it'll own.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-04-10 at 18:00:55
What you aren't mentionning is that most of these "other" games are also available on the PS2 and/or the NGC... Which doesn't make it as good.

Zelda, the whole Mario crew, Metroid, etc... Isn't anywhere else and they're very well competing against Halo 2s and w/e good PS2 games there are (sorry I have a blank xD )
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-04-10 at 18:16:16
QUOTE(TheOddAngel @ Apr 10 2005, 05:12 PM)
Adding To The List Are Some Of My Favorite Games:

-SplinterCell
-SplinterCell Pandora Tommarow
-SplinterCell Chaos Theory
-Rainbow Six3 Black Arrow
-Ghost Recon2
-Mechassault 1
-Mechassault 2
-Crimson Skies (A Fun Plane Dogfighting Game)

All those have Online play exept the first Splintercell But it is a
good game none the less
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??? Im noit sure about SplinterCell but i thought Ghost Recon was for ps2.

Anyway, i have never heard of these games, and i dont care about them. You will never persuade me to get an Xbox.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Felagund on 2005-04-10 at 18:32:00
Yeah, well, when it comes to games, PCs always have the best graphics and sound (unless it is ported to the console years after the PC game is released, which never happens?). If you tried to play (assuming that it was possible) Half-Life 2 on the Xbox, you would get horrible graphics//a fps of like 8.

I can name at least 4 games that are for PC as well on that list. KotOR, KotOR 2 (or soon to be, I'm not sure), Halo (muchly improved graphics), and Doom 3 (pathetically improved graphics). Even though my computer costs at least 4x as much as a console (when it's first released), its abilities are easily more than 4x that of a console.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-04-10 at 18:35:09
Achully, its proven that Mac has better graphics then everyone.

Macs- Cool graphics, some more stuff that doesnt have to do with this topic so im not postin it
PCs- More for games, and DLs, And some more off topic things...

But That doesnt have to do with it, so go on stating Xbox games....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-04-10 at 18:44:48
You're asking to get ruined if you produce a game only for Mac. Even if you make it compatible, you only have half the features available.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-04-10 at 18:46:01
I know that making a game only for mac is very stupid. (not much macs.)

But what do u mean HALF THE FEATURES?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-04-10 at 19:36:49
ok its a fact that x box is better than ps2

but its your opinion if you really think more games beats out better graphics more memory and everything else. So its just your opinion whats funner to play.

PC vs MAc

PC would be 3 times better if it were for all the hacks and shit .. but almost their is so many more thing compatable with it which makes up for it. Macs have a better security but thats about it and its better for web designing crap......
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-04-10 at 19:45:58
QUOTE(warhammer40000 @ Apr 10 2005, 05:46 PM)
But what do u mean HALF THE FEATURES?
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Anything anyone makes. For Windows. Look for CS MAC mods. Good luck. Look for Staredit programs. Good luck again. No one help MACs, that's a fact, as sad as it sounds.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-04-10 at 20:06:29
QUOTE(n2o-Simpsons @ Apr 10 2005, 04:36 PM)
ok its a fact that x box is better than ps2

but its your opinion if you really think more games beats out better graphics more memory and everything else. So its just your opinion whats funner to play.

PC vs MAc

PC would be 3 times better if it were for all the hacks and shit .. but almost their is so many more thing compatable with it which makes up for it.    Macs  have a better security but thats about it and its better for web designing crap......
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How can you say an opinion is a fact?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-04-10 at 20:17:01
i said its a fact that x box is better just ur opinion what is funner
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Still_MatiC on 2005-04-10 at 21:33:05
Please don't compare computers.

I said console perspective
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-04-10 at 21:46:14
Chris you dope. You just named HALF THE FEATURES for sc! You dope! Sc has half the features becuz not alot of people with Macs wanna make alot of sc programs! That doesnt mean a mac has half the features for EVERYTHING. -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ferral on 2005-04-10 at 22:28:47
Alright,
You guys are getting way off topic.
So, stray back on topic please.

Or make another thread and argue in there.

And,
I'm not sure if these were listed.
But,
[Most of these are yet to be out]
- Area 51
- Conker: Live and Reloaded
- UC2 [Was listed I do know that]
- Phantom Dust
Small list. But 3/4 of those games should pwn. Don't know about Phantom Dust, heheh.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ShadowBrood on 2005-04-10 at 23:08:13
QUOTE(Chris @ Apr 10 2005, 03:44 PM)
You're asking to get ruined if you produce a game only for Mac. Even if you make it compatible, you only have half the features available.
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As I recall, Bungie was Mac only before Micro$oft bought them. They were Mac addicts and made games ONLY for Macs. Then Micro$oft bought them and they ported Marathon 2 to PC and made Myth games for PC. Also, alot of inspiration for Halo 2 came from Marathon 2, especially the independant Dual Weilding which Bungie created. Halo 1 was also going to be for Mac but Micro$oft paid them extra to make it a launch game for Xbox.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ferral on 2005-04-11 at 00:25:57
Brood.
What have you done?
But,
If you see the early screen shots, it would have been a HORRIBLE disaister.

Although,
I'm not sure about Brood's sources, I'm pretty sure, he is right.

The Marathon inspiration and Micronub buying them out is true, but about the earlier games being Mac only and porting it to Pc, no clue there.

Back on topic -
PC's are also a lot more flexible, but there alot more costly. Although graphics can be superior, game play isn't always.

I mean, I enjoy "WASD" as much as anyone else, but sometimes it just feels right on a controller.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Still_MatiC on 2005-04-11 at 00:41:15
iono you guys have decided to talk compare PC to mac for some reason which is irrelevant but whatever

my only arguement is that XBOX is underrated system, doesn't mean its the best, its just not the one-dimensional system its believed to be.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bringer on 2005-04-11 at 02:10:18
As for whoever said First to Fight was a good game is a lying piece of crap its average review rating right now is around a 54%. As for computer it cost more, Its games look good yes but graphics arnt everything and I am happy with moderate graphics with great gameplay. I personally beleive its more of a Challenge to shoot with a controller so it makes your kills more rewarding instead of point and click and kill. Driving Games of any kind is easier on consoles IMO b.c you have your joystick and you don't have to buy any expensive controllers or so on for PC. I know alot of PC players that use Controllers for there FPS games and stuff. As for Half-Life 2 read the latest copy of OXM it is coming to Xbox and has been in production for around 2 or 3 years. Also finally with Pariah Xbox Live will have an online map Making community and Digital Extremes is gonna look for the top maps and Make them Offical so everyone can play your great map. But everything just comes to prefrences. Some prefer PC with its amazing amount of games though I admit only 20% of them are good. Consoles do have the upper hand in Gameplay IMO b.c you can SplitScreen deathmatchs and not have to worry bout hooking crap up to play. Also in the Top 10 gamerankings of All time PC only has one game in it but of course so only has Xbox hmm wonder who has the most well of Course Nintendo.
Here is just the Main import Reviews overall:http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/s....asp?rankings=y
And the Average of All Reviews Overall: http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

For all you that care Starcraft falls as the 50th best ranked game ever which is pretty good since it has been around for awhile anyway for the top 200 games here is this list just change the Main Sites to All Sites you want to see the Top 200 games based on even the crappy sites Reviews: http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp

Also note that Nintendo has the most in the Top 200 and that Consoles have more games in the Top 200 than PC does.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-04-11 at 12:02:37
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I personally beleive its more of a Challenge to shoot with a controller so it makes your kills more rewarding instead of point and click and kill.

I very heavily agree that shooting with a controller is better.
Though, not really for the same reason. It's more because you can't turn 180ยบ in one frickin' frame.
I would also like to mention that the XBox controller is my favorite gaming controller of all time.
It has the standard start/select buttons, a D-pad near the left stick, two sticks with stick buttons in natural positions for my thumbs, a diamond-arranged set of standard buttons, along with w/b buttons above that, and two analogue triggers.

Gamecube:
A D-pad(I'll admit, the D-pad is better then the XBox's one), a cheap joystick(I'm not the kind of person that gets angry at games, but after a couple weeks, the joystick was off-center, and extremely loose; it was even worse then my year-old XBox controller is now), a stub(wtf is wrong with a second joystick?!), a really small button on the left of the button area, a really really big one, and two surrounding and oddly placed ones that I still have to spend a quarter second thinking to remember the locations of(and that I often confuse), two digital triggers and one shoulder button... wtf, one?!, and a start button(wtf happened to select?)

PS2:
D-pad, two stick+buttons, 4 standard buttons, start/select, and four shoulder buttons.

Along with being nice and compact, solid(the GameCube controller feels like it's half air, which is wrong... it's more like 3/4 air), it's comfortable.
XBox controller is solid and heavy(as controllers go), so it doesn't feel like you're handling air. It's also more durable then GameCube controllers.
I've heard many people disagree, but think about this: I have never seen a broken XBox controller. The most I've seen was a slightly messed-up stick(in the case of my year-old one, and I have a tendency to abuse controller sticks by pushing them in one direction really hard), while as I saw an even worse condition one that was only in use for a few weeks. It was at my Grandfather's place, where there would only be two kids at a time; me(11-13), and my half-cousin(I forget, somewhere in the 3-5 range I believe), and he doesn't mash controllers, from what I've seen.
Also, at stores, I have only seen one mildly broken XBox controller. Almost every GameCube controller I've seen has had a completely useless stick, destroyed button, or similar damage. And I can say that the XBox's are played as much by little kids as the GameCubes are.

As for those of you talking about PC's compared to XBoxs...

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This is from a console perspective though, so games that are also for PC should be considered exlusive.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonmonkey on 2005-04-11 at 23:26:37
QUOTE(EzDay2 @ Apr 11 2005, 11:02 AM)
I've heard many people disagree, but think about this: I have never seen a broken XBox controller. The most I've seen was a slightly messed-up stick(in the case of my year-old one, and I have a tendency to abuse controller sticks by pushing them in one direction really hard), while as I saw an even worse condition one that was only in use for a few weeks. It was at my Grandfather's place, where there would only be two kids at a time; me(11-13), and my half-cousin(I forget, somewhere in the 3-5 range I believe), and he doesn't mash controllers, from what I've seen.
Also, at stores, I have only seen one mildly broken XBox controller. Almost every GameCube controller I've seen has had a completely useless stick, destroyed button, or similar damage. And I can say that the XBox's are played as much by little kids as the GameCubes are.

As for those of you talking about PC's compared to XBoxs...
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lol, go buy any mad cats controller and you will have a broken controller quite soon. This applies to both ps2 and xbox, not sure about gamecube, because mine came with two, and I never found a need for another...

Ive had three Mad catz broken:
One with the left trigger stuck in eternal fire mode (grenade party! (Halo))
One with NO triggers, and half a joystick.
One with a messed up right trigger, an uber sensitive left trigger, and no black/white buttons.


There was also one of the official xbox controllers, but it didnt really count. It worked perfectly until my little brother chewed through thr cable. closedeyes.gif


As for any other controller breaking, never had one....wow. Unless it was a mad cats. I see a pattern emerging...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-04-11 at 23:35:17
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lol, go buy any mad cats controller and you will have a broken controller quite soon. This applies to both ps2 and xbox, not sure about gamecube, because mine came with two, and I never found a need for another...

Mine is a MadCatz controller. It's got the Macro function, too. Funfun!
Oh ya, the grenade trigger is kinda messed up, but if I pull it all the way once before a game, it's fine.
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