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I made this one a long time ago i dnno what ppl will think of it v.v i still hope to get some comments tho.

Looks good. Very nice indeed, but i doubt i will ever play it.
GJ anyway.

i dont expect anyone to play my maps much really... most MELEE map players just play blizzard maps. I just try to do my best.

good melee map players never play any blizzard maps

they play good maps... the only blizzard-like map they play is lost temple, and the lost temples that people play are very updated

it makes sense now

Hmm.... perhaps you are right, but it is (in a sense) a blizzard map, and out of any of the other maps that i have seen played by pros, they are all blizzard maps... ( i think... )

(P.S. Why does it say: Slayers_`BoxeR` under your avatar? you cannot possibly be the famous...?)

nah, he's just a fan =]

as ihatett says, the only real widely played blizzard map is LT. In the past, there were a few more such as rivalry or dire straits, but no one plays those anymore.

If you're interested, this site has a collection of maps played by 'pros' such as slayers_`boxer` and so on:
http://promaps.deported.net/

i wish I was boxer T__________T

By the way, I edited my above post to make sense. Before, it said melee players don't play melee maps O.O

That is a very good site for maps that he gave. Download those, and you will see that kind of thing that goes into melee maps.

You need room for toss and zerg to flank terran, and you should have a way for zerg to fast expo and still be able to defend their main base. Each main base should have 8-9 well placed minerals. That is just some dirt basic advice. I suggest copying mineral placement from pro maps, it's an easy sure way to make fair minerals.

I'd actually disagree with your dirt basics. They are rather basic suggestions. If you want to break them, you can go ahead and do it, but you'll have to make trade-offs in the interests of map balance.

Copying mineral arrangements is a good idea though, as they are hopefully tested to all mine at similar rates, so it'll save you a good amount of time testing them yourself.

Im DLing that packet of maps now... but just looking at the terrain doesnt tell me much on how to be a pro melee map maker... its just terrain

Show me a pro map without flanking room.

There are maps that don't have a fast expo for zerg (neo forbidden zone on pgtour), but that map is very hard zvp.

whats that mean?

that he has never seen an island map before ;p

there are, count them, ZERO island promaps without flanking room

show me one

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By the way, flanking means attacking from behind/side.

Also, you better not say dire straits.

I do beleive you have commented enough on this map, nobody has even commented on my other two maps.. COMMENT PEOPLE COMMENT thats what we want when we post our maps up here, so comment!!!

Looks boring. Even though its symmetrical, and rather rectangular at that, it still needs a little variety in terrain, or at least a good scattering of doodads to mix it up. And the mineral placements are pretty horrendous.

actually, a decent start for a total newb at map making is the map making guide at the top of this forum

I was going for a TOTALLY equal base map so thats why the terrain is so bland.

As for the minerals, i can explain why they are so... that way...
All of my friends were fussing at my last few maps i had made that the mineral placement was: too far, uneven, too many, or not enough. so i decided i would make every base EXACTLY the same in minerals (so they coudnt fuss about that).

Copy them from a pro map. That would shut them up AND make your map better. The entire map also needs to be opened up.

Also, the challenge still stands. Find me one pro island map without flanking room. ONE.

OMG i was just looking through that pro map folder and i swear i see this map that looks so newb... here ill post a pic up...



What do u think...?

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OMG i was just looking through that pro map folder and i swear i see this map that looks so newb... here ill post a pic up...



What do u think...?

Yeah, the maps from that leauge were all apperantly jokes (except for temple). You should have posted the one with the heart.

You posted the same thing twice dude. Next time, put all your maps in the same thread. It pushed other ones down, plus its so freaking annoying.

Beer, can you merge the topics?

I didnt paste the same map twice... either something is wrong or you are just seeing things... where is the copy map placed?