Report, edit, etc...Posted by ViLe(U) on 2005-04-26 at 20:08:48
Ok so here's the deal. I don't necessarily need to use this, but I am just curious as to why Arbiters act this way. To clarify that it is not for a simple reason, here is what I do to make sure that it is supposed to work right. But first off, as a couple of side notes, I would like to say that I used hyper triggers to make this trigger operate much faster, and I do have an Arbiter owned by Player 8 to operate the system.
Overall, I believe that is it. What I am clarifying is: Why does the Arbiter stop recalling? Thanks for your help, everyone.
- ViLe(U)
- I set Recall to 'Researched by Default'.
- I set it to cost 0 Energy.
| Trigger |
| Description: |
| Recall Repeat |
| Players: |
| ¤ - Player 8 |
| Conditions: |
| ¤ - Always |
| Actions: |
| ¤ - Run AI Script at Location: Cast Recall (arbiter required) at 'Location X' for 'Player 8'. |
| ¤ - Preserve Trigger. |
Overall, I believe that is it. What I am clarifying is: Why does the Arbiter stop recalling? Thanks for your help, everyone.
- ViLe(U)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-04-26 at 20:23:19
Im not sure, how long after it starts does it stop?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2005-04-26 at 20:31:45
Who cares if you set the cost to zero?
Set his energy to 250 and preserve it.
NOW it keeps recalling.
Set his energy to 250 and preserve it.
NOW it keeps recalling.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-04-26 at 21:05:34
I think, even though the mana cost is 0, the computer still thinks it's using up actual mana. And so it stops recalling when it thinks the arb is out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sniper on 2005-04-26 at 22:50:57
no thats not the problem im sure of it...must be something else going on cause i made a recall recently and it worked fine with 0 mana
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FTR_ROCKO on 2005-04-26 at 23:29:00
I think this is why many ppl add more than one arbiter to the map... but i'm just guessing...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-04-26 at 23:32:50
you know... this reminds me of this problem in some games that i play
In some ums maps, i order a unit with weak attack to attack something that has lots of hp and armor. After a while, the unit stops attacking
this does not happen to patrol, order move, and hold position
i dont know about trigger actions though
i think it's caused by hyper triggers.................hope that wasnt just lots of babbling
In some ums maps, i order a unit with weak attack to attack something that has lots of hp and armor. After a while, the unit stops attacking
this does not happen to patrol, order move, and hold position
i dont know about trigger actions though
i think it's caused by hyper triggers.................hope that wasnt just lots of babbling
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sniper on 2005-04-27 at 00:22:57
nope..hyper triggers only make preserved triggers immediate
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2005-04-27 at 01:47:01
I had a similar problem to this, and found that it's because if you order recall with hyper triggers to multiple spots, it won't cast a recall on the other spots you tell it to while it's busy recalling elsewhere. Putting multiple arbiters doesn't solve that, either (unless they're for different players, each recalling in different areas).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2005-04-27 at 16:57:32
I think its because one arbiter can only cast recall every 1 second. Have a few arbiters cast recall 250 milliseconds apart and see what happens.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-04-27 at 17:36:14
I put one arbiter, 0ms hypertriggers, and a recall, 0 mana, no ressetting triggers, enable it, and then the AI. Play in game works for me...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-04-27 at 23:18:02
QUOTE(Tuxedo Templar @ Apr 27 2005, 12:47 AM)
I had a similar problem to this, and found that it's because if you order recall with hyper triggers to multiple spots, it won't cast a recall on the other spots you tell it to while it's busy recalling elsewhere. Putting multiple arbiters doesn't solve that, either (unless they're for different players, each recalling in different areas).
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Hey tux do you think thats because it selects the same arbitor for the AI every time?
Do you think if you cycle the arbitors the arbitor chosen to carry out the AI would also change? Like you would to center a locaiton on each one.
Just a thought...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tuxedo Templar on 2005-04-28 at 01:56:06
Dunno. I know recall can be cast pretty quickly, but in each trigger loop a given arbiter can only cast once, though I remember in a test map that it didn't seem to cast to another spot even if I gave it a trigger loop between castings. Never really tried to figure out what was wrong.
As for how the AI works, it could just be that the first arbiter that it finds in the map (left to right) is the one that gets ordered, whether the others have energy or not.
As usual, another thing for someone with patience to test and confirm.
As for how the AI works, it could just be that the first arbiter that it finds in the map (left to right) is the one that gets ordered, whether the others have energy or not.
As usual, another thing for someone with patience to test and confirm.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-04-28 at 02:27:33
QUOTE(Tuxedo Templar @ Apr 28 2005, 12:56 AM)
As for how the AI works, it could just be that the first arbiter that it finds in the map (left to right) is the one that gets ordered, whether the others have energy or not.
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Exactly what i was wondering, that would be convient.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wild9 on 2005-04-29 at 17:04:23
will these triggers (set correctly) be able to automaticly order a bunch of Queens (Owned by comp) to use broodling w/ no limits?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-04-29 at 17:34:33
There is no AI to do that. Try and make one 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wild9 on 2005-04-29 at 18:10:54
Well how do you make an Ai for that?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-04-29 at 19:17:24
You can't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-04-29 at 20:47:41
There are ways, but they are difficult.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-04-29 at 23:35:24
You mean modding 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wild9 on 2005-04-29 at 23:45:14
Plz explain Legacy weapon?
What programs?
How to opperate that program?
Where can i find it?
What requirements do i need?
I need to learn because i thirst for knowledge.
What programs?
How to opperate that program?
Where can i find it?
What requirements do i need?
I need to learn because i thirst for knowledge.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-04-29 at 23:47:29
If you really want to learn modding, goto
http://www.campaigncreations.org
http://www.samods.org
http://www.smempire.org
Those are all modding websites. We do not support mods.
http://www.campaigncreations.org
http://www.samods.org
http://www.smempire.org
Those are all modding websites. We do not support mods.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wild9 on 2005-04-29 at 23:50:50
Thank you very much oh great legacy Weapon.
Now if i can learn how to use these mods.
The day u see Queens infecting and converting many units i.e. infection beam from HW:Cataclysm is when i've mastered modding.
Now if i can learn how to use these mods.
The day u see Queens infecting and converting many units i.e. infection beam from HW:Cataclysm is when i've mastered modding.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-04-30 at 13:22:33
If its a mod i won't see it.