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Staredit Network -> Melee Production & Showcase -> (4)War of the Tribes
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cobra on 2005-04-27 at 02:06:25
Here's another map I made. How do you like it/What should I edit in it?

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Add: My only main concern right now is the mineral placements :/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mobomojo on 2005-04-27 at 02:59:47
I think the general idea in the terrain is good. However, a few points:

Mains should have just one gas, seeing as how the naturals already have a gas as well. Purple has an extra gas in its natural?

Seems like red and teal have smaller mains than blue and purple. Not really a big issue.

The expos that require transports... theyre consistently along the middle of the map, except for teals. And again, one gas is probably enough. Anyhow, teal's expo looks easier to defend, and I cant really tell looking at the image, but it might be accessible by land.

The lower ground on blue, with that temply terrain you have in a sort of a cross... are buildings placeable there?

It might be helpful to chip off some space down the middle and left to right, and widen the center a bit.

And lastly, as youve mentioned, mineral placement. One way to do this is to place the nexus down, and then place minerals accordingly. Then just mirror it for everyone.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cobra on 2005-04-27 at 16:35:05
Yeah, I was going to get a rid of the extra vespene for the bases, but forgot to finish that.

I dont think you can put buildings on that cross thing. Should I get a rid of it or make it smaller?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mobomojo on 2005-04-27 at 16:54:36
It doesnt seem to serve any purpose. Usually, when people put terrain that isnt buildable upon, its usually to prevent people from pushing on that. Seeing as how its rather straight forward, you should probably just remove that altogether, and maybe move the one in purples to the left and make it smaller.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cobra on 2005-04-27 at 17:14:03
Alright, how bout this?

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I fixed the minerals and relocated teals extra bases. If its okay, ill clean it up with some doodads and post it in the DLDB.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Puni(F) on 2005-04-27 at 18:46:23
Yea, That's what it was missing -.-, Doodads... Once you add some, It will be better, And more fun to play.

Not just some empty terrain...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cobra on 2005-04-27 at 20:40:25
Okay, Its done. The doodads may not show up in the pic, so you'll have to open it through starcraft to see its potential. Also, I added in some minerals to the middle for some good battles. Tell me if i should exclude them.

If there's any problems, please contact me through this thread or PM.

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-04-28 at 20:22:49
Woah, this isnt done.
Remember when I told you that you need to give each player the same chances?
You failed at that on this map.
You should try and give each player the same kinds of terrain outside thier bases and in, and make it the same sizes. The only thing that should vary between areas of the map is shape of the terrain, and even that should be similar.
For each player you have a different terrain setup and type. Change that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cobra on 2005-04-28 at 23:27:47
When will you learn that if the bases arent exactly the same that doesnt mean that they are 'unfair'

When will you learn that if those bases look the same like that, the map is boring?

Seriously, if you need to have a map be like that, you must really suck at the game. If you are a true player, something that small shouldnt get into your way and you should be able to adapt.

Every single player on this map has the same amount of advantages and disadvangates.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-04-29 at 09:53:08
Ummmmmm.... Can someone back me up? I know I am 100 percent right.

Heres my argument:
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Every single player on this map has the same amount of advantages and disadvangates.

Not True.
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Seriously, if you need to have a map be like that, you must really suck at the game. If you are a true player, something that small shouldnt get into your way and you should be able to adapt.

Your kidding right? Check out my maps compared to yours. I would also like to play you.
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When will you learn that if those bases look the same like that, the map is boring?

I will never learn that because its not true.
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God damnit dude. When will you learn that if the bases arent exactly the same that doesnt mean that they are 'unfair'

Red has a raised jungle at his choke, he could prop cannons or tanks up there to protect his entire base. His expansion is also raised while other players are not, It make it much easier to defend.
Blue has temple outside his base. He can put units up there but no buildings. Also, he can get a worker to the expansion surrounded by temple without using air units.
Purple's expansion is also rasied, making it easier to defend, but it has less space than reds. Also, the ramp to his main can be blocked easier by tanks. Units trying to attack it would be under attack longer.

The mineral setup is terrible in this map. Whats with the expansion in the middle?
Each player, using their naturals, mains, expansions would get a different mineral flow.

You dont even play your own maps, do you?

ADDITION:
BTW, before last post, I was beingnice to you, I even PMed you about your other map, and i gave you constructive criticisms to make your maps half decent. And what do you do? You curse at me, and then say I dont know shit and I suck. Good luck holding onto friends here.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cobra on 2005-04-29 at 17:19:51
All you do is go arround insulting peoples maps besides yours. It makes me angry. And yes i do play my maps and they're a hell'ofa fun. >:/
I didnt curse at you :0

Sure ill play you tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-04-29 at 17:45:39
I WANT TO OBS
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cobra on 2005-04-29 at 17:55:32
My internet sucks dude. If theres more than two people in a game its choppah. :S
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-04-29 at 18:03:30
Meh... oh well, but tell us the result when you are done.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cobra on 2005-04-29 at 18:18:28
We'll save the replay. Hey, yenku, i ment no hard feelings. Even though you did sorta piss me off... but non the less! i shall defeat you at mortal- i mean starcraft! tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-04-29 at 19:27:36
Did you get my PM?

We are cool right?
I can play tonight and I will save rep for Ihatett.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cobra on 2005-04-29 at 21:34:03
Why must you think my maps are bad T_T i think theyre good. Better than average one might say.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-04-29 at 21:37:32
this definitely sucked

don't worry, i sucked too when I started

ADDITION:
but i wasnt to know who will win the battle of the gosus
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yenku on 2005-04-29 at 22:09:42
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but i wasnt to know who will win the battle of the gosus

huh?
You wanted to know who will win the battle of the gosus? what are you reffering to?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-04-29 at 22:50:53
I like where your going with this map, but it still needs balancing changes, anywayz, yenku vs someone i dont know!! save the replay..

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cobra on 2005-04-29 at 23:23:11
Yeah, im pretty much some random guy whos been going to this site ever sence last september >:/

Hey yenku, wanna be my friend? :3
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-04-29 at 23:37:20
have y'all not played?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cobra on 2005-04-30 at 00:45:22
We all have not played yet. Probably not tonight.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-04-30 at 00:51:58
do you want to 1:1?

I'll be terran, and someone here (not sure who) can contest how bad my terran is.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-04-30 at 01:16:40
i already know how bad your terran is
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