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Does anyone mind telling me? Or are we censoring opinions about Mp)'s leadership status?

I wouldn't censor anything about my administration position here (in fact, at one point I created the topic myself for people to evaluate me). It makes me a better leader, and helps everyone else since they get to tell me what they think about me annoymously.

Now, censoring leadership opinions is something I'll have to object to here. Mp)3D could prehaps use advice to become a better leader and do better for his clan. And if we're deleting polls related to that, it can't happen.

I guess they are just trying to cover up argument's, And evreything else.

http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopi...ndpost&p=204113

...Yeah...

That was completely unnecessary to delete it. With polls in forums, you don't decide a poll doesn't need votes anymore, do you?

They could of atleast CLOSED the topic, Not delete it so other people that join canno't see it.

Mp)Sniper has the right as co-leader to close topics as he pleases.


The poll proves nothing anyone, and if sniper felt it's for the best ill fallow his opinion even though i agree anyway.

Oh, so do we need a poll on Sniper's leadership now? (Kidding)

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Oh, 3D, and the poll does indeed prove something.
The majority of your clan and SEN say you shouldn't lead.
Well, that's what it USED to say...

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Oh, so when things start looking bad for Mp) we remove polls and close topics where more replies are needed?
Stop running away from whats bringing you down and fight it.
In this case, you can't run and you can't hide.

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Open..close..open..close..
Topics aren't doors.

Ahem, if you're going to delete every topic and poll that doubts your credibility, I recommend Yoshi deletes the Mp) forums, for everyone's good.

He has the right to close topics if there is a reason which is benifical to everyone and represents Mp)'s, and SEN's best interests. Moderating abilities are NOT to be abused for selfish purposes to censor opinions on forums. If you think it proves nothing, then you shouldn't care the poll exists in the first place.

Please make sure he understands this, and that you understand it as well.

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You guys think Mp)3D is a good leader, so defend him and debate good points. Instead of deleting things and "forgetting" about it, convince people.

On the trigger viewer topic, at first, about 50% of people thought it was a bad idea. Things changed in a heated debate, and now 95% of people approve of a trigger viewer. Theres no reason why you can't do the same, you also learn a lot from people about their opinions.

I don't think they even know what you mean Yoshi—it's like talking to a brick wall.

Mp) is just causing more and more problems for SEN, Why waste precious forum space, For a clan that is just going to flame other clans.

Why would a topic be deleted? Nothing to delete unless it contains porn/hacks/viruses or something like that and we usually just edit the post.

Not deleting a post and just closing it sets an example of what is to be closed in the future so people will try to avoid those cirsumstances of the closed post. If it gets deleted people will forget it and they will do it again. It also sets no wrong example for new people not to follow. If every spam thread was deleted instead of closed then newcomers and old-timers will make even more spam threads than now because there is no evidence that those types of threads got punished for one reason or another.

In my months of being a Global Mod for like close to a half year the only threads that I've deleted have been double threads that people accidentally post when they hessitate that their thread isn't posted in 2 seconds. Besides that we close/make invisible the thread/post.

That's what they say, but the poll showed different.
That's probably another reason it was removed...

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Oh, and why is the thread closed? Are we not allowed to debate our OWN opinions anymore?
If you don't want to here it, fine. We'll make it garbage thread.

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This smiley sums up my opinion:

Better yet, I'll move this topic into the garbage forum if they don't want debating about clan positions in their forums. They want to keep their forum for map making hopefully, so we can continue discussion here.

i deleted the poll and not the whole topic because it had a discussion going on
if any of you think that i removed the poll because i didnt want people to see the results, which im assuming most of you do, that was not my intentions at all
i meant for people to notice that the past is the past and we should move on...
thx yoshi for moving it to garbage

But that poll was the present. That poll represented what people thought at the moment, at that time it was the present.

Now it's the past becasue it got deleted, but if it hadn't it would still be the present opinion.

wait wait wait sniper you didnt have to delete it. you could of delete the spam from it. it may have some meaning but deleting this whole thing is wrong.
plus we lost like 2 members from reading the flamming about the you know what.
then we got 2 more back so we didnt care about it.

but yoshi. can we delete spam posts from a forumn and can we delete off topic stuff or move topics so you dont have to get mad at us for deleting it.

i swear this wasnt my fault

I didn't delete the poll. Mp)Sniper did.

His paragraph was pretty incoherent. I suppose you misunderstood it, as he said "Can we move topics and delete them if nessecary, and you won't get mad right?" I thought he said that too, but I noticed his first sentence that he was aware Sniper did it.

Yeah... thats what I first read and responded to. There really was nothing deleted except for the poll, which I thought was poor judgment. You can move it here, though.

Oh, so we have to blame someone for this now?
It wasn't an individual, it was a group of individuals.

YAY now i can post

I haven't posted in the mp forums for a long time because 3D banned me for talking shit about him and his clan in the CLAN AE channel. He then comes in and says "Enjoy your ban on SEN." Since this is in the garbage forums, i can now post!


Shows your more interested in the Clan member count then the actual mappers. Your clan needs to learn to help your mappers become better mappers. Bring out their skill. Fortune helps us out when we ask for it. Alpha(MC) helped EVERYONE out, even the people not in his clan. Thats why every member in Clan MC loved having alpha as a leader. That poll even showed that alot of people, including some of your members disliked having 3D as a leader.


Great job being a co-leader. Is that what is making your job as co-leader so hard? I know for a fact, that being co-leader/council w/e you call it isn't that hard. Especially on a game!

Doesn't look like it at all.


What about other clans votes? aE, oO, or (U) (which probably don't care)


Apparently they shouldn't have a forum here because they want to be left alone.
3D feels the same way. Heres his post.

Basicly he's telling everyone who isn't in Clan Mp to not enter the Mp) Forums.

Yoshi I give you credit for putting up with this. Iwould of cracked and probably deleted their forums, and banned every single one of the members that flamed