Report, edit, etc...Posted by best.sock on 2005-06-11 at 00:40:47
i couldn't find a appropriate forum to post it in so i guess this will do. its a replay on bgh some friends of mine just showed me, where one guys morphs drones into mutas, and gets tons of money back for doing it. i was unaware of any glitches like this ( ive sorta heard of a lurker into muta bug) but this is crazy. it doesnt look like its hard either. A few friends think its a lan game with some wierd hacks, based on the skill ranges in the players, and that it would make this replay make some sense.
watch and be confused/amazed
watch and be confused/amazed
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-11 at 00:42:33
Not sure what ya mean, ill watch the replay to see.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by The_Shattered_moose on 2005-06-11 at 00:53:47
Whoa, thats certainly a WTF moment. Were you people running mods or something, because that was very odd.
The drone morphed into a mutalisk BEFORE he had the tech to morph, and it did it by turning into a cocoon. The picture on the cocoon when selected was a hatchery... But i've got no clue what that was, looks like a hack to me.
The drone morphed into a mutalisk BEFORE he had the tech to morph, and it did it by turning into a cocoon. The picture on the cocoon when selected was a hatchery... But i've got no clue what that was, looks like a hack to me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-06-11 at 00:59:35
Hes morphing spires...
Notice he keeps morphins spires and hatcheries?
The spires are screwups...
Notice he keeps morphins spires and hatcheries?
The spires are screwups...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by best.sock on 2005-06-11 at 00:59:57
it wasnt us, i think it was posted somewhere else and they showed me
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-06-11 at 01:01:34
It isn't a hack because it wouldnt work if it was. It is a glitch...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by best.sock on 2005-06-11 at 01:21:51
ok heres a link to a thread on TL.net about it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...?topic_id=28304
lordofdabu was one of the ones who showed me. apparently it was online in a melee game and the guy somehow edited starcraft. i say send up the deathknight signal
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...?topic_id=28304
lordofdabu was one of the ones who showed me. apparently it was online in a melee game and the guy somehow edited starcraft. i say send up the deathknight signal
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-06-11 at 01:34:25
It's called a "mod".
There's a forum just for Mods here at SEN...
There's a forum just for Mods here at SEN...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-06-11 at 01:39:13
No, that would not work in normal SC, would it?
and only white does it.
ADDITION:
Oh, I already PMed him... didn't see that
and only white does it.
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QUOTE(best.sock @ Jun 10 2005, 10:21 PM)
i say send up the deathknight signal
Oh, I already PMed him... didn't see that
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-06-15 at 21:17:28
Modifications are not shown in replays.
This is a hack.
He somehow morphed his drones into mutalisks by first directly morphing them into hatcheries(somehow), and canceling them.
He also went over the supply limit which would generally be impossible.
The most interesting thing is not that he morphed the drones, but that he was able to gain minerals without mining.
This is a hack.
He somehow morphed his drones into mutalisks by first directly morphing them into hatcheries(somehow), and canceling them.
He also went over the supply limit which would generally be impossible.
The most interesting thing is not that he morphed the drones, but that he was able to gain minerals without mining.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-06-15 at 21:29:52
But I thought hacks didn't save into replays either?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2005-06-16 at 10:02:25
To bad he lost All that hacking for nothing, wow now that is dissapointing.
Most probably a hack that edited Starcraft's memory.
If it was a mod, then all the Zerg players would've been hatching drones to hatchery cocoons, canceling them and getting a nice muta with a 300 mineral present.
If only he had a mod, then it would've crashed everyone else.
I'll go with what Clokr_ said, a modified replay or a very unlikely hack.
He said because if one SC says that a muta is here, and another SC says that it's a hydra then everyone drops.
All that hacking for nothing, wow now that is dissapointing.Most probably a hack that edited Starcraft's memory.
If it was a mod, then all the Zerg players would've been hatching drones to hatchery cocoons, canceling them and getting a nice muta with a 300 mineral present.
If only he had a mod, then it would've crashed everyone else.
I'll go with what Clokr_ said, a modified replay or a very unlikely hack.
He said because if one SC says that a muta is here, and another SC says that it's a hydra then everyone drops.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Neiji on 2005-06-16 at 10:40:21
Umm... he made his own replay!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-06-16 at 11:10:16
It's defnitely a mod/hack. Someone showed me this replay, and then told me to go into a game with them. They modified the probe's build range so that the buildings warped in anywhere (building anywhere on the map without moving).
Yet, the only mod I was running was my own... I'd really love to know how to do this, it sounds pretty similar to the Automodder...
Yet, the only mod I was running was my own... I'd really love to know how to do this, it sounds pretty similar to the Automodder...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-06-16 at 11:24:49
Either a modified replay OR...
I think this replay is corrupted. Corrupted replays can be pretty messed up. Notice how after white dies the other guys attack teal and red and they dont move. And teal has his scv's sitting for the whole second half of the game after never being attacked. Also, why would white get three spires when he never needed one in the first place? Why does red not do anything the whole second half of the game?
I think this replay is corrupted. Corrupted replays can be pretty messed up. Notice how after white dies the other guys attack teal and red and they dont move. And teal has his scv's sitting for the whole second half of the game after never being attacked. Also, why would white get three spires when he never needed one in the first place? Why does red not do anything the whole second half of the game?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2005-06-16 at 13:47:21
Sometimes if you click the drone it is building a spire, other times it is a hatchery...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-06-16 at 15:23:38
Clokr_ is wrong then. 100% it's a hack. He showed me, and I also saved a replay of some other things he did. We traded information.
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He's using a mac, and claims to have modified the "buttons".
He also said he can turn a nydus canal exit into a drone/mutalisk so that you can move the exit anywhere and it will work. He can make any worker turn into any building, and can even spawn vespene geysers out of nowhere. There are probably other things he can do, but whatever.
Hacks do save in replays. Hacks that WORK ONLINE save in replays, and command hacks especially work in replays.
This is a different and very easy hack to make, but requires some knowledge about Starcraft commands(orders.dat). (I can show you this myself)
Replays are just simulations of the actual game, which records all actions done by players and saves it so that it can be played back. A modification CAN NOT be saved as a replay, like say I made a mod that gave SCVs 70000 HP and saved a replay. If you view the replay in normal starcraft, the SCVs will have their 50 hp, or whatever their normal hp amount is.
There is no possible way corrupted replays can cause a person to morph his drones into mutalisks.
This bug could have also originally been done in the 1.04(or before?) patch without the use of hacks.
[attachmentid=10475]
He's using a mac, and claims to have modified the "buttons".
He also said he can turn a nydus canal exit into a drone/mutalisk so that you can move the exit anywhere and it will work. He can make any worker turn into any building, and can even spawn vespene geysers out of nowhere. There are probably other things he can do, but whatever.
Hacks do save in replays. Hacks that WORK ONLINE save in replays, and command hacks especially work in replays.
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They modified the probe's build range so that the buildings warped in anywhere (building anywhere on the map without moving).
This is a different and very easy hack to make, but requires some knowledge about Starcraft commands(orders.dat). (I can show you this myself)
Replays are just simulations of the actual game, which records all actions done by players and saves it so that it can be played back. A modification CAN NOT be saved as a replay, like say I made a mod that gave SCVs 70000 HP and saved a replay. If you view the replay in normal starcraft, the SCVs will have their 50 hp, or whatever their normal hp amount is.
There is no possible way corrupted replays can cause a person to morph his drones into mutalisks.
This bug could have also originally been done in the 1.04(or before?) patch without the use of hacks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Vampire on 2005-06-16 at 18:25:19
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He can make any worker turn into any building
Doh... thats what zerg is all about lol