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since everyone always has to ask the same thing again and again

I'll use this thread to gather info and put it in this table: http://www.stormcoast-fortress.net/cntt/so...scmdraft/table/

If I got anything wrong or someone else posts wrong info feel free to update it.

[codebox] Staredit SCXE Alternative SCXE Base SCXE Classic SCXE P12 SCXE Special Starforge Scmdraft 2
Unit Stacking No No No No No 1px Yes Yes
Zoom No No No No No No No Yes
Doodad Placing Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes
Buildings Anywhere No No No Yes No Yes Yes Yes
Snap to (Custom) Grid No No No No No No Yes Yes
Sprites No No No No No No Yes Yes
Addons Anywhere No Yes No No No No Yes Yes
Non-neutral Addons No No No No No Yes Yes Yes
Extended AI Scripts No Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Cut and Paste Terrain No No No No No No Yes No
Backup Database No No No No No No No Yes
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Erm, made some corrections (stacking, anywhere placement, cut/paste) and added a bunch...

http://chuiu.com/table.html

For those of you going "OMG U HAVE TOO MUCH TIME ON UR HANDS", if you're using the proper tools, it takes a lot less time than it looks.

notepad is the proper tool

It's "organized" (typo).

ADDITION:
Organized... not "Orgaanized"

haha ya I noticed the second one but was to lazy to open FTP after fixing my local copy.

I wouldn't say X-Tra completely lacks square terrain.

If you destroy the ISOM section then no, but I don't think there is a widely known method to place rectangular terrain on it other than screwing it up with Starforge.

Basically,we've learned that scxe has become obscelete besides the fact that some people prefer a guideline while doing triggers instead of the "complicated" SF and SCMD2 way.
( not me I love SF );

You got multiple map views wrong. Starforge is the only program that can't do that.

whoops I must have had the wrong thing in the clipboard :/ cause I meant to have multiple maps no multiple views yes

Time ago there was an utility called ISOM that edited the isom section. I made some maps with X-tra using square terrain before SF was made.

Ok, so basicly, the the link: http://chuiu.com/table.html suggests that the best software is Starforge and SCMdraft2.

Right?

It didn't really 'edit' the ISOM section. It replaced it with whatever you entered in. Which is why I said "unless you destroy the ISOM section" because thats pretty much what you're doing at that point.

You should view this one instead: http://www.stormcoast-fortress.net/cntt/so...scmdraft/table/

It's a lot more detailed. And it suggests that SCMDraft 2 and Starforge are two of the most useful.

Still you could call that some kind of "edit"

I still use ISOM...

Anyways, SCXE Special isn't 1px by 1px, its 3x3. (look reeeaaal closely, and/or take a screenshot and zoom in on it)

And StarEdit/XtraEditor has a function "Map View" where you can have multiple frames of the same map.


What is the difference between "Addons anywhere" and "Non-Neutral Addons"?

Add-ons anywhere means being able to place them anywhere on the map. On water, on cliffs, etc.

Non-Neutral addons means players can own them other than 12.

I thought I fixed that with staredit and multi map views, gah

I use SCXE as my primary editor.

I think mostly everyone does.

You can add 'Autocomplete' for triggers/missionbriefings and SF let's you edit the unit/sprite/tech/upgrade trees to customize them by editing the data files with notepad.

ADDITION:
And about the string viewer, neither SF neither SCMD2 displays overlaps correctly ;P
Although I think that SF displays 1 overlap mark very accurately.

It's because they all display it in the same sized text box.

U can put square terrain in X-tra? what mode? is there a terrain palette?

well if you use the old Isom tool you could place square terrain but not isometrical terrain

ADDITION:

I dont even try to display overlap atm, since it depends on where the string is used etc.

Like SI said, if you use the ISOM program (outdated, btw). But if you do then you can only place rectangular terrain (1x2 tiles, not square) and you cannot place isometrical terrain after that.