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Staredit Network -> Miscellaneous -> Should SI update memgraft to 1.13?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-06-30 at 00:33:26
I'm going to resist the urge to insert my personal bias into this until people start posting.
EDIT: The question now assumes that the new patch doesn't prevent things that were done before with memgraft from being done again.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-06-30 at 00:57:30
I say you lazy people should downgrade your Starcrafts!

...or make mods that don't alter buttons. :/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-06-30 at 01:05:24
Looks like we have a supporter of memgraft not being created in the first place and everyone playing stargraft mods on 1.07. [/bias]
That seems to be your position at least.
Currently 3 yes and 1 no. I'll assume the no was you DK.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-06-30 at 01:08:32
How is it bias?

Oh and I chose "No" because I was looking for an inbetween option that didn't exist.

BTW you know this doesn't determine if a new memgraft is coming out or not. -_-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-06-30 at 01:13:06
QUOTE(Deathknight @ Jun 30 2005, 12:08 AM)
BTW you know this doesn't determine if a new memgraft is coming out or not. -_-[right][snapback]248836[/snapback][/right]
I know but popular opinion might tongue.gif
I thought the edit in the first post would get rid on the inbetween option thingy. If it doesn't could you elaborate on what the option you were considering is?

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And I was thinking it was bias for making you sound like you were taking more of an exstreem position then you really were for the purpose of effecting votes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2005-06-30 at 01:17:58
Well, I voted yes.

For the sole purpose that my RPG was going to based off of adding specials for the heroes in the map. Now the patch covered it. cry.gif


Oh well...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-06-30 at 01:19:05
Well, you can still add buttons, they will just cause your mod to no longer be compatable with the latest verson of SC.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ultimo on 2005-06-30 at 01:29:37
Which means get back to the late 90's! fool!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2005-06-30 at 01:54:45
I was looking for a "Yes, if Blizzard did indeed patch all possible exploits done with this", but they didn't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2005-06-30 at 07:34:25
First of all, and as a note, I would want to say that memgraft is DW's program.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-06-30 at 10:39:48
I vote 'No' for fear that if this happens that, the 'morph hack' gets recreated.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-06-30 at 10:41:19
QUOTE(Clokr_ @ Jun 30 2005, 06:34 AM)
First of all, and as a note, I would want to say that memgraft is DW's program.
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He pretty much gave it to SI to update.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-06-30 at 14:12:22
QUOTE(wesmic da pimp @ Jun 30 2005, 07:39 AM)
I vote 'No' for fear that if this happens that, the 'morph hack' gets recreated.
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Screw the morph hack, we want modding!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 1337(U) on 2005-06-30 at 21:40:35
Why isn't there a "who gives" vote part?

I seriously don't care, Because i don't melee, Or mod.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2005-06-30 at 21:45:14
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jun 30 2005, 10:12 AM)
Screw the morph hack, we want modding!
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I 100% agree!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-06-30 at 22:23:51
SI should be working on SCMDraft 2. MemGraft should be of a lower priority.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FaZ- on 2005-07-01 at 00:50:17
I voted no simply because I think StarCraft is dying. Not that I feel the morphing had any effect on that, but simply because I don't feel one person should be doing such a great deal of work for "fun." If you need to create mods, you can play on private gateways in many places, assumably with previous versions. I did so on Diablo 1 for a good amount of time to play legit-only. StarCraft modders can easily do the same.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2005-07-01 at 11:05:08
QUOTE(Faz-)
I voted no simply because I think StarCraft is dying. Not that I feel the morphing had any effect on that, but simply because I don't feel one person should be doing such a great deal of work for "fun." If you need to create mods, you can play on private gateways in many places, assumably with previous versions. I did so on Diablo 1 for a good amount of time to play legit-only. StarCraft modders can easily do the same.


Fina n' dandy. And how preytell would we know wich gateways and/or servers to use for the mods playing (since to play'em over multiplayer we need to use the same mod version)? Just curious on how to pull it, though. ermm.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-07-01 at 11:22:06
SI should be studying for finals. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-07-01 at 16:24:43
QUOTE(FaZ- @ Jun 30 2005, 11:50 PM)
I voted no simply because I think StarCraft is dying. Not that I feel the morphing had any effect on that, but simply because I don't feel one person should be doing such a great deal of work for "fun." If you need to create mods, you can play on private gateways in many places, assumably with previous versions. I did so on Diablo 1 for a good amount of time to play legit-only. StarCraft modders can easily do the same.[right][snapback]249660[/snapback][/right]
It kind of annoys me how for the last three years or so there have been people who have ranted about the death of SC.
The only way SC can possibly die is if north korea nukes south korea tongue.gif [/bad joke]
Also, what you speak of has probably been done before. Could you provide a link on how to set up private gateways. (bet you can't becuase it's too hard and obscure tongue.gif )

Also, in response to mini moose, I think that SI should focus on memgraft, becuase you can do everything possible in UMS with the current verson of SCMDraft and SF. However, our mods are seriously restricted without memgraft.
SCMDraft works fine, it can wait a bit while they hunt down the new memory locale ids.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by FaZ- on 2005-07-01 at 17:44:10
QUOTE(Basan @ Jul 1 2005, 10:05 AM)
Fina n' dandy. And how preytell would we know wich gateways and/or servers to use for the mods playing (since to play'em over multiplayer we need to use the same mod version)? Just curious on how to pull it, though. ermm.gif
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QUOTE(m.r.bob(MM) @ Jul 1 2005, 03:24 PM)
Also, what you speak of has probably been done before. Could you provide a link on how to set up private gateways. (bet you can't becuase it's too hard and obscure tongue.gif )
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I don't know how to do so, but figured that it was common knowledge around here. What I had to do was download a program and give it some information, and it added a 5th option to my battle.net gateways list, called the "Womb." I haven't been on it in a year, so it might not even be up. I don't know how to create these, though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-07-03 at 12:38:08
Apparently it isn't common knowlage...
Maybe I should post an assistance thing.

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So does 20 to 7 mean we should start PMing SI? [/badly disguised bump]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Basan on 2005-07-04 at 15:50:20
QUOTE(Faz-)
I don't know how to do so, but figured that it was common knowledge around here. What I had to do was download a program and give it some information, and it added a 5th option to my battle.net gateways list, called the "Womb." I haven't been on it in a year, so it might not even be up. I don't know how to create these, though.


Editing gateways. Nothing new, to me at least. All I wanted to know is if it's still doable. The ServaqManager app doesn't work for me in ages... so, no more personal sets over to play into. blink.gif

Side note (added): Unless you know some other stuff (as in program) to do the same and still works... my cousin mentioned somethin' around those lines a while ago. I just don't know if it works, though. wink.gif
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