Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 11:09:37
And don't complain that this shouldn't be here, because it can have an intellectual conversation slapped onto it.
I picked the C's because that is the only one I actually know, lol.
And the C's are the most powerfull out of all of the programming languages (that I now of at this moment) and it really isn't that hard to learn once you can impliment it into your everyday life.
I picked the C's because that is the only one I actually know, lol.
And the C's are the most powerfull out of all of the programming languages (that I now of at this moment) and it really isn't that hard to learn once you can impliment it into your everyday life.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by des on 2005-06-30 at 11:19:13
Actionscript's okay, but I don't really have too much use for flash, and don't have the graphical skills using it to get anything in it that I couldn't do using photoshop/html. PHP is therefore my pick, seeing as that's the only other one I really use. VBasic I used to know, probably forgot all the syntax now though.
Yeah...
Yeah...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-06-30 at 12:52:21
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jun 30 2005, 10:09 AM)
I picked the C's because that is the only one I actually know, lol.
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Reeeal intellectual.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 13:08:24
QUOTE(chuiu_os @ Jun 30 2005, 09:52 AM)
Reeeal intellectual.
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This is the second time you have came into a thread created by me, and start dissing on me. Why? WTF did I do to you? Absolutely nothing.
And yeah, I picked that one bacause that is the one I am most familier with. Is there a problem with that? I don't see a problem.
But this is to discuss the differences between them, and why you like them, and all that hodge podge.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-06-30 at 13:16:51
This doesn't belong in serious discussion, especially because you didn't take the thread seriously when making it. The line I quoted tells me that. And I didn't 'diss' you in either threads. Especially not the other one.
The reason this can't be taken seriously is because programming languages are all used for certain things. There isn't any all around better than every other language programming language. Each has it's specific uses.
The reason this can't be taken seriously is because programming languages are all used for certain things. There isn't any all around better than every other language programming language. Each has it's specific uses.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2005-06-30 at 13:16:57
Kell, the percent of the people that knows about programming languages is too small in this forum to make this a serious discussion. Maybe in a programming forum... yes... but here I think that it pertains to Anything Goes too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-06-30 at 13:19:58
PHP != Programming Language
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2005-06-30 at 13:21:59
Yes it is. What is not a programming language is HTML.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2005-06-30 at 13:26:31
This isn't a really great topic since not all them are for the same purpose.
Visual Basic and C/C++ ect are used more for Stand Alone .exes Stand alone programs, while PHP can only make web based things.
True, C++ and Visual Basic CAN be used for web based things, you usually see Visual Basic replaced on the web by ASP, because it was devrived from it, and not many hosts allow C++ on their server, not to mention ho wmany people would even use it if they could.
All that aside, I would say C++ or PHP. Can't vote since they aren't in the same vote, so, yeah.
Visual Basic and C/C++ ect are used more for Stand Alone .exes Stand alone programs, while PHP can only make web based things.
True, C++ and Visual Basic CAN be used for web based things, you usually see Visual Basic replaced on the web by ASP, because it was devrived from it, and not many hosts allow C++ on their server, not to mention ho wmany people would even use it if they could.
All that aside, I would say C++ or PHP. Can't vote since they aren't in the same vote, so, yeah.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-30 at 13:27:50
The only techy language I know is HTML.
Which reminds me, I have to go study it, I'm sort of forgetting some of it...
Which reminds me, I have to go study it, I'm sort of forgetting some of it...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 13:39:57
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The only techy language I know is HTML.
You cant really consider html a language.
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PHP can only make web based things
What about php command line interface or something like that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-06-30 at 13:46:54
QUOTE(Gradius @ Jun 30 2005, 01:39 PM)
You cant really consider html a language.
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The only techy coding* i know is html
So sorry
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-06-30 at 14:14:00
Where's 'other'? Python owns!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by AqoTrooper on 2005-06-30 at 14:22:22
I used to like C the most, but Borland (my favorite compiler) doesn't work on XP, so I kinda stopped liking it (XP... well C too because 85% of the windows users have XP).
C++ is boring, it's just like C with some tags changed into something akward and annoying (WHY THE HELL DID THEY CHANGE printf(""); into cout >> ""; !?!!?!).
JAVA is the language I hate the most, all of the classes thing confuses the shit outa me and static variables are TeH EvIl!!! gawd they're annoying!!! How did such an annoying language become so popular!? (yeah... the prebuilt interfaces... I know I know...).
HTML is dull, the javascript you have to add stuff to it is also boring to use... lots of writing, little thinking.
So that leaves me with Visual Basic, an easy to write and read language that has prebuilt menus and works on XP, somewhat perfect.
I vote for VB.
C++ is boring, it's just like C with some tags changed into something akward and annoying (WHY THE HELL DID THEY CHANGE printf(""); into cout >> ""; !?!!?!).
JAVA is the language I hate the most, all of the classes thing confuses the shit outa me and static variables are TeH EvIl!!! gawd they're annoying!!! How did such an annoying language become so popular!? (yeah... the prebuilt interfaces... I know I know...).
HTML is dull, the javascript you have to add stuff to it is also boring to use... lots of writing, little thinking.
So that leaves me with Visual Basic, an easy to write and read language that has prebuilt menus and works on XP, somewhat perfect.
I vote for VB.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 14:31:25
QUOTE(AqoTrooper @ Jun 30 2005, 11:22 AM)
I used to like C the most, but Borland (my favorite compiler) doesn't work on XP, so I kinda stopped liking it (XP... well C too because 85% of the windows users have XP).
C++ is boring, it's just like C with some tags changed into something akward and annoying (WHY THE HELL DID THEY CHANGE printf(""); into cout >> ""; !?!!?!).
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C++ is boring, it's just like C with some tags changed into something akward and annoying (WHY THE HELL DID THEY CHANGE printf(""); into cout >> ""; !?!!?!).
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First off, C++ is a more advanced version of C, and is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more powerful than it's predicesor.
Second, they changed it so it was easier to understand and code.
QUOTE(Warhammer40000)
The only techy coding* i know is html
So sorry disgust.gif
So sorry disgust.gif
Uh, it technically is Scripting.... But I guess coding works for a description
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tarh on 2005-06-30 at 15:07:31
I chose Visual Basic, because that is what I program in the most.
However, it really all depends on what the task at hand is. You can't really "pick" one over the other, because, well . . . I'll just use this quote
So really, it depends on what you are doing.
If you wanted to build a large application in which time is not a factor, but you need a good "solid" application that performs a lot of bit math, you would use C/C++/C#/C.net.
On the other hand, if time was a factor, and you needed to get a small - medium size application delivered in a short period of time, you would use Visual Basic (QBASIC? Who even uses that anymore?).
If you wanted to create a large, powerful program that runs in common web browsers without using any IE-only ActiveX controls, you would need to use Java.
But if you want to program a dynamic website, you would be forced to use something like PHP (for custom control, anyway). You could also use ASP (why does nobody use ASP? It's "da pwnerz").
Finally, if you wanted to make a light-weight program with smooth graphics (probably a game) for a web browser, you would use ActionScripting (Flash Programming).
So really, this entire thread is kind of pointless, because you can't really select one language over another. Every language is designed to do something in particular, and , to quote a phrase, it's comparing apples and oranges.
Visual basic is perfectly equal in power, and, when not abused, just as fast.
However, it really all depends on what the task at hand is. You can't really "pick" one over the other, because, well . . . I'll just use this quote
QUOTE(Reboot @ www.xtremevbtalk.com)
Languages are tools. One is not "better" than the other. You use the proper tool for the job at hand. If I said "A hammer is better than a saw", would you not agree that makes little sense?
So really, it depends on what you are doing.
If you wanted to build a large application in which time is not a factor, but you need a good "solid" application that performs a lot of bit math, you would use C/C++/C#/C.net.
On the other hand, if time was a factor, and you needed to get a small - medium size application delivered in a short period of time, you would use Visual Basic (QBASIC? Who even uses that anymore?).
If you wanted to create a large, powerful program that runs in common web browsers without using any IE-only ActiveX controls, you would need to use Java.
But if you want to program a dynamic website, you would be forced to use something like PHP (for custom control, anyway). You could also use ASP (why does nobody use ASP? It's "da pwnerz").
Finally, if you wanted to make a light-weight program with smooth graphics (probably a game) for a web browser, you would use ActionScripting (Flash Programming).
So really, this entire thread is kind of pointless, because you can't really select one language over another. Every language is designed to do something in particular, and , to quote a phrase, it's comparing apples and oranges.
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And the C's are the most powerfull out of all of the programming languages
Visual basic is perfectly equal in power, and, when not abused, just as fast.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SpaceBoy2000 on 2005-06-30 at 18:51:43
Java. Why? Because I haven't mastered C/C++ yet. Java does have its good side (really good for programming contests with its huge default library), but it is JIT compiled, so it is insanely bulky, and drinks memory like a mad man. Its easy of use of arrays is a blessing and a curse - on one hand, I don't have to deal with memory addresses. On the other hand, it is a lot harder to minimize the memory overhead needed when you're dealing with a huge chunk of information.
Did I mention it was slow?
Did I mention it was slow?
QUOTE(AqoTrooper @ Jun 30 2005, 01:22 PM)
JAVA is the language I hate the most, all of the classes thing confuses the shit outa me and static variables are TeH EvIl!!! gawd they're annoying!!! How did such an annoying language become so popular!? (yeah... the prebuilt interfaces... I know I know...).
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-06-30 at 19:14:22
QUOTE(Tarh @ Jun 30 2005, 12:07 PM)
I chose Visual Basic, because that is what I program in the most.
However, it really all depends on what the task at hand is. You can't really "pick" one over the other, because, well . . . I'll just use this quote
So really, it depends on what you are doing.
If you wanted to build a large application in which time is not a factor, but you need a good "solid" application that performs a lot of bit math, you would use C/C++/C#/C.net.
On the other hand, if time was a factor, and you needed to get a small - medium size application delivered in a short period of time, you would use Visual Basic (QBASIC? Who even uses that anymore?).
If you wanted to create a large, powerful program that runs in common web browsers without using any IE-only ActiveX controls, you would need to use Java.
But if you want to program a dynamic website, you would be forced to use something like PHP (for custom control, anyway). You could also use ASP (why does nobody use ASP? It's "da pwnerz").
Finally, if you wanted to make a light-weight program with smooth graphics (probably a game) for a web browser, you would use ActionScripting (Flash Programming).
So really, this entire thread is kind of pointless, because you can't really select one language over another. Every language is designed to do something in particular, and , to quote a phrase, it's comparing apples and oranges.
Visual basic is perfectly equal in power, and, when not abused, just as fast.
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However, it really all depends on what the task at hand is. You can't really "pick" one over the other, because, well . . . I'll just use this quote
So really, it depends on what you are doing.
If you wanted to build a large application in which time is not a factor, but you need a good "solid" application that performs a lot of bit math, you would use C/C++/C#/C.net.
On the other hand, if time was a factor, and you needed to get a small - medium size application delivered in a short period of time, you would use Visual Basic (QBASIC? Who even uses that anymore?).
If you wanted to create a large, powerful program that runs in common web browsers without using any IE-only ActiveX controls, you would need to use Java.
But if you want to program a dynamic website, you would be forced to use something like PHP (for custom control, anyway). You could also use ASP (why does nobody use ASP? It's "da pwnerz").
Finally, if you wanted to make a light-weight program with smooth graphics (probably a game) for a web browser, you would use ActionScripting (Flash Programming).
So really, this entire thread is kind of pointless, because you can't really select one language over another. Every language is designed to do something in particular, and , to quote a phrase, it's comparing apples and oranges.
Visual basic is perfectly equal in power, and, when not abused, just as fast.
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Well duh you can't select one over the other but the thing is: Which is your favorite Programming Language?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-06-30 at 19:26:33
It's not a language (in the programming sense), but UNIX shell code is pretty neat.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tarh on 2005-06-30 at 21:07:02
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Which is your favorite Programming Language?
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I chose Visual Basic, because that is what I program in the most.
There is a fine line between favorite and best, considering that they are both opinions of what you like the most. I suppose that I chose Visual Basic just because I am the most comfortable programming in it . . .
I suppose I like Visual Basic also because you don't have to end your lines with ";"s (not that that is a bad thing, I just find it looks neater without the semicolons). Although, C++ is right up there because you can make your code look fairly complicated and, if you are shallow enough, get an excellent ego boost from it! [/sarcasm]
If Thread = "Programming Languages" And Not ForgotToRespond Then
Answer = "Viz Bazic3z tiz d4 bombz0rez!"
'w00t
End If
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2005-06-30 at 21:12:52
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What about php command line interface or something like that.
That's just running PHP on your computer, you still can't do things like make programs ect, and it has to be in a webserver document. Doesn't work too well.
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C++ is boring, it's just like C with some tags changed into something akward and annoying (WHY THE HELL DID THEY CHANGE printf(""); into cout >> ""; !?!!?!).
You can still use printf and sprintf in C++, it's just decpricated.
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I suppose I like Visual Basic also because you don't have to end your lines with ";"s (not that that is a bad thing, I just find it looks neater without the semicolons).
And, it's probably because I use programming languages with them, I think it looks neater with them. You can tell when something has actually ended, and someone isn't just trying to mess with you.
And beuause...
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-06-30 at 21:29:35
All the extra lines and {}'s make Java a pain. Python owns: no semicolons, it actually parses line breaks. Its syntax is no-nonsense and streamlined. Excerpt from a program of mine:
Nicely simple (it also parses indents).
CODE
if hp < 1:
raw_input('<ENTER> to end')
break
while 1:
cmdLine = raw_input('--> ')
cmdWords = cmdLine.split(': ')
cmd = cmdWords[0]
try:
cmdArgs = cmdWords[1]
break
except IndexError:
print 'Compile Error: must include \': \' after basic command.'
if cmd == 'go':
NewPlace = cmdArgs
if NewPlace in place[1]:
place = places[NewPlace]
hunger -= 1
elif cmdArgs == '':
print 'Go Where?'
else:
print 'You can\'t go there.'
raw_input('<ENTER> to end')
break
while 1:
cmdLine = raw_input('--> ')
cmdWords = cmdLine.split(': ')
cmd = cmdWords[0]
try:
cmdArgs = cmdWords[1]
break
except IndexError:
print 'Compile Error: must include \': \' after basic command.'
if cmd == 'go':
NewPlace = cmdArgs
if NewPlace in place[1]:
place = places[NewPlace]
hunger -= 1
elif cmdArgs == '':
print 'Go Where?'
else:
print 'You can\'t go there.'
Nicely simple (it also parses indents).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 1337(U) on 2005-06-30 at 21:35:39
*1337(U) waits for LW to come in and vote for VB
I voted for VB, Mostly because I just started learning it...
I voted for VB, Mostly because I just started learning it...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SpaceBoy2000 on 2005-07-01 at 00:10:43
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jun 30 2005, 08:29 PM)
All the extra lines and {}'s make Java a pain. Python owns: no semicolons, it actually parses line breaks. Its syntax is no-nonsense and streamlined. Excerpt from a program of mine:
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if (true)
System.out.println("Blah");
System.out.println("This is not in the if");
System.out.println("Blah");
System.out.println("This is not in the if");
is the same as
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if (true) { System.out.println("Blah"); } System.out.println("This is not in the if");
Of course, everyone insists you have neat clean code. Me? I obfuscate it to the point where no one else understands it. Nasty habit.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by some_guy on 2005-07-01 at 02:29:47
I'm stuck between 2 languages, GML and Ruby. I have a tutorial for both, and btw I'm still learning these languages. GML is the language that comes in Game Maker(which is what I'm using to develop Metroid Prime 2D.). And Ruby is a language for programming things other than just games. The tutorial says this is an easy and very good programming language. Like I said, I'm still learning those so I'm not really sure which would be my favorite.