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Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-07 at 10:41:23

Does anyone else find it annoying as Hell that so many people don't understand that whether the word "defense" is spelled with a 'c' or an 's' depends on where you live, and think that it's universal?
I know there were some other words that this happens with(just not as often), but I can't remember them...

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de·fence Audio pronunciation of "Defence" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-fns)
n. & v. Chiefly British

Variant of defense.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2005-08-07 at 10:47:07

QUOTE(EzDay281 @ Aug 7 2005, 05:41 PM)

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de·fence Audio pronunciation of "Defence" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-fns)
n. & v. Chiefly British

Variant of defense.

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That why I always write "..." def

Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-08-07 at 11:41:09

Defense = American Standard English
Defence = Standard English

The pronunciation is also different.

In Britain, it's 'de-fence,' with a little more stress on the second syllable, while in America it's 'DE-fence,' with much stress on the first syllable. We do say 'Defensive' rather than 'Defencive' though, so we're just inconsistent in our grammar rules. You can thank Webster for making American Standard English have more consistent rules of grammar (I still like Standard English better though

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There's also the matter of 'Offence' and 'Offense,' which have the same differences in Britain and America as Defense/Defence.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2005-08-07 at 11:47:30

QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Aug 7 2005, 06:41 PM)

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There's also the matter of 'Offence' and 'Offense,' which have the same differences in Britain and America as Defense/Defence.
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Isn't this stupid? Its like saying cat or kat, cow or kow. Why can't you people at least talk in the same "english"?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by JohnnyHazardous on 2005-08-07 at 12:05:34

Yeah I always wondered if they are the same thing or not.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-08-07 at 13:22:57

If you're britian, it's your problem, if you're american, you also have a problem. Either way, it doesn't matter to me.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2005-08-07 at 13:26:45

QUOTE(krazydrunkking @ Aug 7 2005, 08:22 PM)

If you're britian, it's your problem, if you're american, you also have a problem. Either way, it doesn't matter to me.
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It doesn't matter me either. I am none of them.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-08-07 at 13:30:23

There are also a lot more. Colour-Color Neighbour-Neighbor (all I can think of). Basically all of the words that have oor sound. Americans have to be special

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2005-08-07 at 13:53:07

QUOTE(KaboomHahahein @ Aug 7 2005, 08:30 PM)

There are also a lot more. Colour-Color Neighbour-Neighbor (all I can think of). Basically all of the words that have oor sound. Americans have to be special

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Yea if we look how americans use completely different units of measure than the rest of the world. I never understand why. Meter, kilogram, litre and C°, what was so bad with these that they had to invent the other ones?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sniper on 2005-08-07 at 13:55:22

The americans use the imperial system. We use the metric. The americans are old -.- We used to use the same system as the americans.

We as in Canada

Report, edit, etc...Posted by glytchur on 2005-08-07 at 14:03:06

i say defence...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2005-08-07 at 14:05:15

QUOTE(DEAD @ Aug 7 2005, 10:53 AM)

C° is for Canadians, F° is for Americans. Americans doesn't use the words with 'our' on it.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gigins on 2005-08-07 at 14:12:05

QUOTE(krazydrunkking @ Aug 7 2005, 09:05 PM)

C° is for Canadians, F° is for Americans. Americans doesn't use the words with 'our' on it.
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Canada AND all other world(with exceptions of course)

Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-08-07 at 16:02:30

QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Aug 7 2005, 10:41 AM)

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There's also the matter of 'Offence' and 'Offense,' which have the same differences in Britain and America as Defense/Defence.
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That's interesting. I find I say it both ways depending on what I'm saying. More commonly I say defence and not dee-fence.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-08-07 at 16:06:43

I think we have bigger grammar and spelling issues in maps today than defense vs defence, such as "Mareens" and "Gardiens".

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-07 at 17:06:09

I prefer the s to the c

And for the pronunciation I see we do use more emphasis on the DE in defense, but at some times I use de-fense, not DE-fence. Like for example "You need more de-fense in your base" To me it's awkward to say DE-fense in that type of sentence, though I'm inconsistent like that. Both I think I use interchangeably.

EDIT: Actually I would say DE-fense in "You need more defense in your base".

As for defensive and defencive, I think I say de instead of DE, no matter what :/

Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-07 at 18:15:05

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I think we have bigger grammar and spelling issues in maps today than defense vs defence, such as "Mareens" and "Gardiens".

Umm... wait, what does that have to do with this?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by chuiu on 2005-08-07 at 18:26:05

QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Aug 7 2005, 03:06 PM)

I think we have bigger grammar and spelling issues in maps today than defense vs defence, such as "Mareens" and "Gardiens".
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Especially when people go out of their way to mispell renamed units. From 'Zerg Guardian' to 'Gardien'.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-08-07 at 19:11:13

QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Aug 7 2005, 11:41 AM)

Defense = American Standard English
Defence = Standard English
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I always say Defence...

QUOTE(DEAD @ Aug 7 2005, 11:47 AM)

Isn't this stupid? Its like saying cat or kat, cow or kow. Why can't you people at least talk in the same "english"?
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...We didn't because we were seperated far from each other and made up the languages differently. (America was seperated from Britan, and the English language was still forming. So America didn't know how everyone else was doing it, they're on another continent!)

Common sense!

Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-07 at 19:22:16

Ya, but why couldn't we have re-synchronized?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by MapUnprotector on 2005-08-07 at 19:40:24

As for making America switch from Standard to Metric, I heard it would cost A LOT of money, and things like machinery would have to be replaced or converted. Also people who don't no metric would have to either learn or lose their job.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2005-08-07 at 20:12:58

I was responding to a question regarding language, not standardization.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-08-07 at 21:54:34

'our' > 'or'

's' > 'c' (Most cases, Defense, Offense, both vary in the way it's pronounced)

I thinks its my yearning to be scottish.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-08-08 at 00:00:40

[center]If anyone saw Distort's 'DeFence' map... Yeah, you have to De-Fence an area to win. Very funny, actually.[/center]

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-08-08 at 00:01:14

I'm trying to do US spelling in most areas of the site, but I can't help it sometimes to say "colour, defence, and zed"

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