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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-09-06 at 01:32:44
[center]Genre: Real Time Strategy
Players: 1-8[/center]

Graphically, the game was great for it's time. Nowadays, we have 3d models and more, but graphics only mean so much in this kind of game. The game opts for a realistic style and I think it makes the story all the more believable. I'm a realist, so it pleases me. The music is... not as memorable as other games, but other times, you may not even notice it. It's not annoying like Bombermans, but it's not something you'll want to listen on your free time.

As for a plot, it's fairly massive. You have 3 races and their interactions with each other are interesting. Though we only get to see a small share of leaders, not the entire picture, the game already feels epic. there is plenty of betrayals, deceit and lies used in the game. The plot is anything but simple and the characters are memorable. The manual is incredibly detailed and has information on the past histories of each race. I'd like more factions to come in, rather than focusing on just the leaders, but it's still great.

The gameplay itself is amazing. Though the AI is linear in the singleplayer mode, custom games with it are NEVER the same. This is because the computer ADAPTS to what you do, instead of waiting for you to exploit its weaknesses like most other games. Therefore, every game turns out different and feels fresh.

Playing with people is also great since many strategies can be formed. This elevates the replay value to obscene heights and is Starcraft's true value. As for my opinion, I find the game challenging, not just against the opponent, but by managing all the things such as scouting, economy and microing in battle. Length is further extended by the minigames you can play in use map settings.

Starcraft excels on the most important factors I look for when I choose to buy a game, the plot and the gameplay. This is why it has achieved such a legendary status.


[center]Ratings:
Atmosphere - 2/3
Plot - 3/3
Gameplay - 3/3[/center]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-09-06 at 02:32:43
[center]U M S.
The custom factor is what I love about. And since we keep getting new tools and new abilities, I doubt I'll bore of the game in the near future.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-09-06 at 12:16:48
The plot is one of the best I've seen in a RTS game.

The free multiplayer definitely helps as well. Especially the Battle.Net server interface. Simple and easy to set up games, and a wide variety of options as host.

The UMS and map editor help alot as well. It's simple enough to learn, and powerful enough to do amazing things with it.

Finally, the unique tech trees. I prefer unique techtrees to games where the races share alot of units (Age of Empires, Rise of Nations, etc...)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-09-06 at 13:27:56
cause god made it so
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2005-09-06 at 13:54:05
Because all the units explode biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Caboose on 2005-09-06 at 14:30:36
'Cause like... uhh... It just is, get over it!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lisk on 2005-09-07 at 15:14:01
But it's not the best.
It's not from 1st person therefore it's not realistic. (-1)
Size ratios are... weird. BC/Zlot/Nuke
The map editor is pretty limited.
So many hacks...
Poor GUI.

Your "why it's good" still works smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-09-07 at 17:53:48
Every game has its downsides, most have more downsides then starcraft and less features. (but the size ratio bugs me so!)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe)r( on 2005-09-07 at 19:12:19
QUOTE(Lisk @ Sep 7 2005, 01:14 PM)
But it's not the best.
It's not from 1st person therefore it's not realistic. (-1)
Size ratios are... weird. BC/Zlot/Nuke
The map editor is pretty limited.
So many hacks...
Poor GUI.

Your "why it's good" still works smile.gif
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I agree Except the part about Too Many Hacks. Becuase blizzard has no control over the stupid :censored:ing :censored:es that screw up starcraft with hacks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-09-07 at 22:19:48
ya, the size ratio is really screwed up.

But they just did that for easy access to buildings
Report, edit, etc...Posted by evolipel on 2005-09-08 at 17:02:16
QUOTE(Lisk @ Sep 7 2005, 02:14 PM)
But it's not the best.
It's not from 1st person therefore it's not realistic. (-1)
Size ratios are... weird. BC/Zlot/Nuke
The map editor is pretty limited.
So many hacks...
Poor GUI.

Your "why it's good" still works smile.gif
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It doesn't have to be 1st person to be realistic.

The GUI is adequate, I don't know why you say it's "poor". You don't even need to read the tips if it's your first game, you can just easily adapt to it in 1 minute or less. It's not uber-pretty or anything and it doesn't have a lot of fancy flashing images but it does its job fairly well.

Yeah, hacks are a problem. I'm not playing melee until that mineral hack that gives you 30k is dealt with. I mean, it's the sort of thing that can be fixed on Blizzard's part, unlike a map hack (which really can't be fixed on Blizzard's part.)

I'm surprised that the one thing people didn't mention is how every race is balanced. Meaning, you can't just select Protoss or Zerg and expect to win against somebody Terran because it's an inferior race. Some people say that Terrain IS in fact an inferior race, but that's only (in my opinion) because the key to terran is micro and not just pure massing (although you can mass units like gols, m&m's, etc).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-09-09 at 03:11:51
QUOTE(evolipel @ Sep 8 2005, 04:02 PM)
It doesn't have to be 1st person to be realistic.

The GUI is adequate, I don't know why you say it's "poor". You don't even need to read the tips if it's your first game, you can just easily adapt to it in 1 minute or less. It's not uber-pretty or anything and it doesn't have a lot of fancy flashing images but it does its job fairly well.

Yeah, hacks are a problem. I'm not playing melee until that mineral hack that gives you 30k is dealt with. I mean, it's the sort of thing that can be fixed on Blizzard's part, unlike a map hack (which really can't be fixed on Blizzard's part.)

I'm surprised that the one thing people didn't mention is how every race is balanced. Meaning, you can't just select Protoss or Zerg and expect to win against somebody Terran because it's an inferior race. Some people say that Terrain IS in fact an inferior race, but that's only (in my opinion) because the key to terran is micro and not just pure massing (although you can mass units like gols, m&m's, etc).
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Well, it's his opinion that he finds FP games to be realistic. I'm not saying you are wrong either, but both of the views are opinions on what is realistic or not.

It maybe poor to him, but I find it works, so I'm happy with that.

I wouldn't say the game is 100% balanced, since differences theoretically can not be balanced, but I'd say major imbalances are near non-existant, from my opinion and experience. Some units are not used much based on what I've seen such as valks, bats, scouts or queens, but that's based on what I've seen.


Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-09-09 at 11:43:28
I think Starcraft's the best game ever because of the wonderful editing features they included with the game. The story mode, I've played through the entire campaign 4 times. Battle.net is fun most of the time. There's just something about the way it feels that had never been around before or since.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lisk on 2005-09-09 at 13:58:45
I forgot why I said poor GUI. But it's old. The ... lower bar? status bar? is too big.
Battle net is plain ugly.

We see the world from the 1st person. Therefore only FPS can be realistic smile.gif

And no sequel :/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by evolipel on 2005-09-09 at 15:04:57
QUOTE(Revelade @ Sep 9 2005, 02:11 AM)
Some units are not used much based on what I've seen such as valks, bats, scouts or queens, but that's based on what I've seen.
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Valks are used in raiding overlords or just plain going anti-air to intercept an air attack.

Bats are used after marines if your enemy is toss (to defend yourself while you tech.)

Scouts can be an early air unit (and you can mass them too), sort of like zerg with mutas (albeit somewhat different).

QUOTE(Lisk @ Sep 9 2005, 12:58 PM)
We see the world from the 1st person. Therefore only FPS can be realistic smile.gif

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Put up a camera on a hot air balloon. What you see is realistic, just not from the ground perspective.

However, SC is far from realistic. It's science fiction: it really can't be realistic (especially since the aliens/tech is unexplained for the most part).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mr.ex on 2005-09-10 at 17:00:00
cool1.gif sc owns...Period
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2005-09-11 at 01:50:48
QUOTE(evolipel @ Sep 9 2005, 02:04 PM)
Valks are used in raiding overlords or just plain going anti-air to intercept an air attack.

Bats are used after marines if your enemy is toss (to defend yourself while you tech.)

Scouts can be an early air unit (and you can mass them too), sort of like zerg with mutas (albeit somewhat different).
Put up a camera on a hot air balloon. What you see is realistic, just not from the ground perspective.

However, SC is far from realistic. It's science fiction: it really can't be realistic (especially since the aliens/tech is unexplained for the most part).
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I know that each has a purpose, but the fact is that some are used more than others, which was my point.

Valks aren't used much at all. For one high priced valk, I can get a couple hits on it, with either hydras or mutas, say 31 damage or so, then I can fly 2 scourges into it and He's lost a good sum more of resource than I have. Most games I see come down to M&M SV and zerg goes lurks and lings, but later gets defilers and ultras.

I've never seen zealots used in massive numbers. I've seen goons however massed. I don't see a reason to use bats when they can easily use storm if you go bio or just rely on regular marines. Of course, they might use zealots to break a tank wall, but they wouldn't die fast enough anyway.

Scouts are just not good. They cost far too much for what they do. The only way to get them to be good is to get their upgrades, but that cost far too much gas. Corsairs are faster, cheaper, do splash damage and have a spell. Many people agree corsair > scout, when it comes to usefulness.

These are based on the replays I've seen at teamliquid and gosugamers. You probably can't view them now, but these players have great micro and strategy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)PeazeL on 2005-09-16 at 03:22:58
imagine if there was no such thing as the map editor for SC. SC wouldnt last long.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Atreyu) on 2005-09-16 at 09:45:50
cuz this game is totally the pwNz0rz0wNeD@G3
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-16 at 10:15:02
It's fast, balanced, deep, and fun to watch (did you know it's on TV in korea!?!?).

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Scouts can be an early air unit (and you can mass them too), sort of like zerg with mutas (albeit somewhat different).


I'm not very good at protoss, but I've never heard of this before. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mr.ex on 2005-09-20 at 00:10:51
the people who play SC made sc great if u think about u understand
Report, edit, etc...Posted by marxel on 2005-09-21 at 00:13:37
Let's just say that it is not the best game ever. But the best RTS EVER!!!

ADDITION:
Let's just say that it is not the best game ever. But the best RTS EVER!!! cheers.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by mr.ex on 2005-09-21 at 00:14:04
blushing.gif blink.gif whats RTS.... pinch.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2005-09-21 at 10:36:54
QUOTE(marxel @ Sep 20 2005, 10:13 PM)
Let's just say that it is not the best game ever. But the best RTS EVER!!!

ADDITION:
Let's just say that it is not the best game ever. But the best RTS EVER!!! cheers.gif
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Wrong!

There's no game better. smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Forsaken on 2005-09-21 at 11:45:33
StarCraft is just one hell of a game. I think that SC2 will not be as good because to surpass SC will be one HELL of a task...
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