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Kids who are depressed and suicidal often have better lives than the kids who don't, and I hate it. I go to school every day and hear kids whine about how much their life sucks because they didn't get the latest shoes and because they ONLY get 20 dollars a week to spend. These people are comforted and treated better all the time, making them whine more and more. One girl today complained to the staff how they have to stand in such long lines and that their legs hurt too much. Read that and count how many people stand in your lunch line every day just to get lunch. We need some law that allows teachers to whack whoever they feel.




This seems more like a rant than a discussion but I had to get it out, thank you for actually bothering to read what you probably already know.

Those whinners deserve what they want to have. They deserve it so much that it should be taken away from them.

Really, whats the point of having all those small things. I have none of those things but I make the best out of it.
I may not have the latest shoes but mine look good and that's all it matters.
20 dollars a week to spend? I only get $20 for lunch money per week. What I do is mow a few lanws and wash a few cars and hopefully wash a Porche kekeke!
Not waiting in line cause your legs hurt? Bullblam, any non-arthritic or non-ostoporosis person can stand up-right for over 30 minutes without any pain.

My life is horrible. Woe is me!

Just kidding. I just do see the whole emo thing.

If I may, I'd like to quote one of my favorite songs:

And nothing trivial
That life could give me will
Measure up to what might have replaced it

That line right there says that it could be worse. There will ALWAYS be someone worse off than you. This is especially true if you are compaining about the trivial things, for instance, only 20 a week. I dont get ANY given allowance, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I earn my money, and I know what it's worth. But enough about me.

Cutting is another thing. I see no reason to destroy yourself over something so meaningless. Why not distract yourself with games? Or TV? Sports? Hell, why not just get over it? Life will hardly EVER go your way, so live with it. Cutting yourself will only bring more guilt and pain. And If you absolutely feel you need to inflict pain on yourself, do it in a non scarring way.

I really hate cutting also, girls like to show off their scars of stupidity in the middle of class. They can't seem to realize that cutting yourself isn't even an accomplishment.
OMG my boyfriend dumped me, this has never happened before to anyone in the world, why me? Time to slice up my arm because I'm so stupid that I mistake pain for pleasure
and stain my mom's cooking knife with blood that probably has 10 known sexually transmitted diseases.

Someone has to have it the worst because the population ends somewhere

Put a depressed teenage girl in a room with some loser emo boy and they will make sure the population never ends.

If you don't wanna stand in line hurry your fat ass up and get there before everyone else...

As for the rest... I hate the spoiled kids.

Some girl who whines about having to stand in line you now classify as a depressed/suicidal person? Also if you are depressed / suicidal because life doesn't offer you certain things you want your right these people don't deserve the time of day.

Depressive disorders however are real chemical imbalances in the brain which are sometimes genetic or have been incurred by really blamty conditions over a long period of time. It is true that people can take the wrong slant on life and get really down on themselves because they don't have the newest blam or have to stand in line too long.. That is their own fault because dumb :censored:es who hold stupid things to be the most important things their life.

All I'm saying really is you need to watch out who are the people that genuinely have had a pretty rough life.. Chances are there are some people that have it so bad you can't even imagine. Living in abusive households is not cool, me myself have grown up not exactly in an abusive household but rather strict Christian parents. I have gone through depression because I have not accept the things that they believe to be so and have had to fight to get my space for my own beliefs. No not depression as in aww I have to goto church my life sucks... more like when I wake up in the morning I feel like blam. Going through the day is even worse,.. all because the chemicals in your brain. I'm not quite sure how this fighting about religion brought me into depression, but it did.. and it's not something you can exactly snap your fingers and make it go away.

Anti-depressant medication and other therapies are often the only solution to start feeling better. So if you ever think clinically depressed people have it easy .. you have no idea. I do however agree there are alot of whiny :censored:es in society but you need to be carefull when classifying these people as depressed.

Bi-Polar is different than Emo.

Bi-Polar is a form of depression in which you have crazy mood swings. You can be very happy one minute and then the next you feel utterly depressed. People who have this form of depression say the low are much lower than the highs and it's truely a terrible condition.


I myself am not bi-polar but always mildly depressed also you can throw in there GAD (General Anxiety Disorder). Doctors I have talked to say depression and anxiety often goes hand in hand.

I don't see how doing those things you described really relates to actual suicidal and depressed people.

I agree those whiners are idiot losers, but they aren't truly "depressed" or "suicidal", they are just spoiled idiot slackers.

The OP is whining.

"Some girl" who I have known for a year and constantly has depression and cuts.

Define genuinely rough life, because I'm sure I have it off worse than the girls who like to cut their arms for a living but I don't go around in public announcing it.

Depression pill, snap your fingers, it's gone.


It's very hard to find a teenager who actually has a good reason to be depressed, nowadays it's "Omg my dad HATES me, he always makes me do things I don't want to do like take a shower."

You fail to realize the difference between a bad day and depression.

I can under depressed people that are like that, but suicidal? I doubt that, the people that you are talking about usually annouce that they are suicidal or are going to do suicide; very few suicidal people actually annouce their plans.

Leave the suicide to schizos, extreme loaners, and people that can't get out of their torturous life.

My friend gets drepressed whenever he gets a runny nose!
We joke about it though. That fact he gets drepressed over such a little thing is funny, so it kind of helps him

But those pepole who are depressed just need to smoke up a joint every two days and they'll be fine. Calms you right down. I dont know from first hand experience, but i know from first-and-a-half experience (one of my family members has a joint once in a while to calm down and relieve stress). They are rarely an angry person. Very rarely. And never depressed.

[center]...And that's the roots of addiction. If you're using to escape the real world, you've got a problem.
I've been depressed before, very depressed. I know I have a good life, but things still get to me sometimes. I really never got over one thing, but the pain seemed to lessen every day.[/center]

You piss me off. Those people are spoiled, retarded brats! Not Depressed kids you :censored:ing idiot!

GRRRRRRRR

So since I have the chemical imbalence of Depression, and i'm Bi-Polar, that makes my life better then everyone elses?

Do you know how many times i've come to killing myself?

More then you could count buddy.

So before you sit there and diss on Depressed people, learn the difference between being spoiled, and being depressed.

GSDLFJ!!!!! AS..... GRRRRRRRRRR



Exactly. Emos are there for attention. Bi-Polar, you can't control (Enless you want to become a midnless zombie because of the pills)



Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

I have the chemical imbalance of Depression. I went to a doctor and he said I was "Mild Depressed" (Because I pretty much lied to the doctor cause I didn't feel like letting my mom know my real thoughts of life) He gave me some pill (Starts with a Z and I hated it) and it made me completely emotionless. No pain, no hate, no anger, no pleasure, no love, no sympathy. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. So I quit taking it after the first pill. Sure it made me concentrate more, but no emotions at all? that.

Sure. I'm still depressed. But at least I can still have emotions that I grew up with. People ask me why i'm depressed. I can answer it in one phrase:

"I am depressed because I have no self-confidence, I am lonely, I feel like there is nothing in the world for me, I feel worthless, I feel like i'm not good at anything (Not even when everyone tells me that I write good stories, and that I produce really good Electronic Music, and that i'm very good at Hackey Sack, and very good at Liquid Raving) and I feel like no one likes me"

There. Happy? You now know how much view I have on myself.

You still think that the kids at your school are depressed?

As..... Grrr...............

First of SSRI medications usually take 2-3 weeks before you even start to notice a difference in how you feel, so after taking 1 pill you think you know what it's going to do for your mood.. your wrong. Also are many different anti-depressants out there so giving up after your first one is foolish. Some of them might make you feel zombish and after taking a certain medication for more than 2-3 months.. if you cannot see it being benifical for yourself then quit. Then try another one until you get it right.

The alternative is being depressed and feeling like crap all the time and not being able to do blam in life that makes you happy. If you are not willing to try a few things to better yourself.. that is your problem, not mine.

I have gone through absolute depths of depression, yes I know what it feels like to want to end it.. every day you know that it would be so much easier just to end this misery. But at the same time I have the logical rational to understand this is just one period in my life that isn't so great and I have only experienced just a sliver of what life has to offer. Things won't always be like this so killing myself would be rather foolish.

Edit: Also see that your a raver and have no doubt have done your share of MDMA. This drug is a benifical tool to help you see that your current state of mind is only related to the levels of seritonin in synaptic receptors, take a pill which causes seritonin to flood your receptors and you feel awesome for 3-4 hours. Now we know that SSRI's are Selective Seritonin Receptor Inhibitors which prevent the reuptake or reabsorption, thus increasing the amount of serotonin available to act on receptors in the brain. If you find the right SSRI I believe it will make you feel better and you can take it as long as you want until your life is back on track.

Hmmm... Now you're steriotyping me. That's nice.

I have NEVER done MDMA (Also known as Ecstacy to the ignorant) and I will never touch the blam because it has METH in it. So you trying to put the blame of my depression on that when you are steriotyping me, too, is completely stupid and arrogent.. You don't know what I have gone through, or what I go through.

And I thought you were smarter then that. Steriotyping? My views on you have crumbled.

And what makes you think that it would take me months to "notice" the changes? Do you know anything about the effects of drugs on people?

Everyone isn't the same. Just like with any illicit drug. The effects will take longer, or take shorter for everyone. Everyones neurological chemical makup is different then everyone elses. So you trying to say that i'm lieing about that is stupid, too.

You know nothing about me, or my feelings. So therefore, you cannot come up with arguments about how I feel because you are not me.

And I know it was different because people that I would usually feel sympathy for while being off the medication, I felt NO sympathy for them.

Again. Don't steriotype me. Don't try to get into my feelings, or ANYTHING like that.

Such arrogence.

LOL. Alright first of all kid, if you took any part of my response as a personal attack then you need to go back and read it again? Ok? Good.

If you would go back and actually read what I said instead of jumping to conclusions, which now that I think about it is kinda ironic coming from the person who's pointing fingers for stereotyping.. You would see that I never once said your depression was a result of your MDMA use and actually in truth was saying that using MDMA is a benifical tool for seeing through your depression.



I think this is the first time you and me have ever had a discussion so I don't know how you could possibly think I am smarter than "steriotyping" you, if you never knew how smart I was to begin with. Also since we are on the topic of "steriotyping" it is important to know it is actually spelt stereotyping.

The first rave I went to I took E, and the last rave I went to I took E so I am actually the perfect stereotypical raver, sorry to further taint the raver image people will label you with.. haha. I would recommend everyone to try Ecstacy at least once in their life just because it's a great experience and for me it was a great escape from depression at the time. But then again while recommending people try MDMA I must note I myself do not have an addictive personality so if you are known to abuse substances you probably should not. I have done tons of MDMA and probably tons of Meth to go along with that, I can go months without ever feeling the need to do it again.

This is getting off topic however and you totally missed the point of why I even mentioned MDMA. I am not going to repeat myself so I encourage you to go back and read what I wrote again to figure out what exactly I was getting at.




I said 3-4 weeks I believe, I did not say months however a few months is usually a good amount of time to really get a good trial of an SSRI. What makes me think it would take this long for you to notice a change? If you ask me that I must ask you if the doctor even explained to you what exactly an SSRI is?

All the doctors I have talked to and posted on all the informative websites about these class of drugs it will tell you that anti-depressants do not give an immediate effect. What you are experiencing is a placebo which is basically your mind creating a specific effect which your subcontious creates for yourself. This is actually how SSRI drugs are judged on effectiveness in clinical trials, one group of patients are given sugar pills and the other given the real drug. Both groups will regardless if they are given the real thing or not, will IMPROVE! If of course the patients taking the SSRI improve better than those given the placebo sugar pills the company doing that study can go on to market their drug as an effective SSRI.



My friend, I have not responded to your post to argue with you so I am really puzzled as to where you are getting this from. You say I do not know how you feel, this is incorrect since I have gone through bitter depression and know exactly what it feels like. You may want to believe that nobody has had it worse than you, which is understandable because thats how it feels. I suggest to you however that you try and listen to people that have gone through similiar experiences as your self and learn how they have overcome.

I can't work, im 2 young.
Im going to try to get money somehow, though.
And yes, those kids should try living one day in the life of one of the people (like me) who get more work at home (and are smarter) then most around them.
Then they might shut up for a day or 2.
Never heard of anyone saying that in my school though

I never said EVERY depressed person has better lives, and stop screaming, I had no way of knowing you were depressed at all, I'm not some mind reader.

I don't care.

I don't think a bad day causes months of cutting.

I wasn't really directing this at the people with serious cases of depression, more like the teenagers who commit suicide because their parents don't buy them that new GameCube.

Oh, and you can stfu and leave.

You can stop bashing him and actually have a real debate.

BTW, I don't understand why you are so defensive of depressed people, you aren't the only depressed person who knows what it truly feels like and depression isn't a race.

Hmm so that means everytime i get my period im bi-polar i have krazyyyyy mood swings when it gets that time of the moth

Wow, Way to much information... Even though it's human. But still, Depressed people shoulden't resort to suicide... Crazy.