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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-09-25 at 23:32:44
I left nearly a year ago to sort some things out in life. Things back then weren't going too well, and the site hacking was actually what made me do it - I didn't want to deal with those problems, so I decided to leave SEN for a few months. I intended to return after a while and help out a bit more community wise, which I have been doing. Right now, life is pretty good, my school is going well, and such. You'd think I'd have no reason to go, but I think I'm going to do it... slowly and silently (no dramatic news posts where people go "omfg yoshi come back!")

Why? Well, theres multipule reasons why.

Although Isolated Purity is a great programmer, I'm feeling that the current site is really horrible, and v5 isn't living up to how I hoped it'd be. IP really wanted some things changed and such, and so it happened. I didn't say much, but now I'm freelance programming, so even if IP decides otherwise, I think I got my sights on other types of programming now. I would of hoped v5 would be a team effort, but it just didn't end up that way. v4 is really buggy (plus sql errors constantly), and v5 is not even close to me contributing very much to it (besides the idea and some core code, but the code is all redone now probally).

This community is big. I mean, really, really big. To the point where, its bigger than I'd like it to be. As you all may know, I didn't found SEN for the purpose of conquest or whatever other webmasters do, trying to monopolize the community. I more set out to help myself better in programming and webmastering. Well, I'm at the point where I can't do much programming and webmastering, because now I'm more babysitting little kids. I don't know why, but people think that everyones actions but mine are inadaqate. I tend to be the "super admin" around here and I don't like doing this kind of stuff. Not with a community this large.

I can't seem to make fair decisions or see through peoples personalities. Before, I used to catch people on the forums, channel and msn in the blink of an eye when they are bullshating me, or acting like jerks. I could then make fair and quick actions to those situations. I can't anymore. The site and amount of billshatters has increased so much, and they keep coming. Most of them, I don't even know about until they've been doing it for weeks or days.

Other programming priorities. I'm working on some other programming stuff like my forum software and such. Although you guys are not familiar with my programming techniques, its pretty cool.

SEN has turning into "one of those communities" for a long like blizzforums or something where there are stupid people running lose. I just can't hold them anymore, and I wish to have more intellegent topics of discussion.

Not motivated. I lack motivation to do anything anymore around here. Most of the reason for this is the reasons I have listed.

Not fun. I'm not having fun anymore running the site, and when you stop having fun theres no point in continuing. I haven't shown up for map nights in like, forever. Why? Because everytime I stick myself in the channel theres a hoard of people waiting to ask me stupid things and whichever. Bolt/Tux think they got it bad... you wouldn't believe the whispers and amount of people talking to me I get.

Not really making new friends. I also enjoy having new friends, but I lack making new ones recently. Theres too many people who want to be my friend "because I'm Yoshi" and such. Most of the time they're complete jerks too.



Okay well, bottom line, I'm going to change my msn and aim again in a few days, this time I'll give it to all of you guys if you want it since you're all staff and people I know. People who wont get it are random SEN users I added for no reason. Someone else can take over that section leaders thing I was getting on. Its still a good idea if whoever implements it correctly.

If you think I'll be back in half a year or something, its where you're wrong. I might drop by and say hi, but this isn't like last time where I was sorting out life issues. I'm actually not motivated here and I don't like the way things are running and heading. Theres nothing much you guys can do so don't punish yourselves over this. Yet again, sorry.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-09-26 at 00:08:19
*Kame da Sniper makes a generic discontent sound.

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There are other ways to settle half these problems.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-09-26 at 00:12:37
But, I really don't want to solve any more problems, I don't want to deal with any more problems sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-09-26 at 00:24:26
I understand.

I won't have much reason to stick around without you. I hope another mass exodus doesn't take place.

ADDITION:
I still don't like it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-09-26 at 00:39:41
Sexy avatar, by the way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (U)Bolt_Head on 2005-09-26 at 01:04:54
Agg there slowly unconsciously merging into one person.

PS. I don't have it bad, havn't for a long time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-09-26 at 02:02:04
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If you think I'll be back in half a year or something, its where you're wrong. I might drop by and say hi, but this isn't like last time where I was sorting out life issues. I'm actually not motivated here and I don't like the way things are running and heading. Theres nothing much you guys can do so don't punish yourselves over this. Yet again, sorry.


5 months later: Yoshi: "I found my motivation, I'm back!" Nobody can stay away from SEN, ever.

Who's replacing you? We need an active admin to deal out punishments and such (IP is a great guy, don't get me wrong, but someone needs to head the SEN police force).

You could say you're feeling a bit stressed and need the extra help, not state you're leaving. SEN kinda lost all it's staff, Bolt isn't on much, neither is BeeR, Clokr_ resigned, I don't see Chu much, Moose stands alone tongue.gif

Oh yeah, ""omfg yoshi come back!"" tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-09-26 at 03:39:45
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Although Isolated Purity is a great programmer, I'm feeling that the current site is really horrible, and v5 isn't living up to how I hoped it'd be. IP really wanted some things changed and such, and so it happened. I didn't say much, but now I'm freelance programming, so even if IP decides otherwise, I think I got my sights on other types of programming now. I would of hoped v5 would be a team effort, but it just didn't end up that way. v4 is really buggy (plus sql errors constantly), and v5 is not even close to me contributing very much to it (besides the idea and some core code, but the code is all redone now probally).


Besides redoing the core that one time with new ideas... I don't see where this is coming from.
The core NEEDED to be redone that time because it had to implement new things like caching, which you know is cool because you admit you use it on YOUR forum...
I haven't really touched the core too much since then. Small rewritting to scripts, it happens in any program... if not, it ends up being a diaster to fix later.

I was really hoping you'd do the DLDB and other stuff...

Other than that, I think Senv5 is looking a lot better than senv4 and will continue to improve.

You haven't even touched a file for like 5+ months... It's kinda hard to be a team with that...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-09-26 at 07:54:00
QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Sep 26 2005, 03:39 AM)
The core NEEDED to be redone that time because it had to implement new things like caching, which you know is cool because you admit you use it on YOUR forum...
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I would have done it anyway, seeing how theres billions of tutorials on it and the more popular forum softwares do it anyway. I generated my own code for this which was pretty cool.


QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Sep 26 2005, 03:39 AM)
You haven't even touched a file for like 5+ months... It's kinda hard to be a team with that...
I'll be honest, the second that things that I made started to be changed around when you didn't talk to me about it, I just didn't want to work on it anymore.

ADDITION:
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Sep 26 2005, 02:01 AM)
5 months later: Yoshi: "I found my motivation, I'm back!"  Nobody can stay away from SEN, ever.
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Sorry, not this time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2005-09-26 at 10:37:28
Heh, I'm losing my motivation into the secret project too. Not that I've stopped doing it, but I won't touch it for a long time.

About SEN, might this be the begining of a new nice and SMALL comunity? You know that I love small forums, where you know everybody and you can check every new post. Those are the best.

Also, you don't have to apologize for leaving this website. You had to leave it sooner or later? Or did you plan or being SEN's webmaster forever? Everybody likes moving on other projects, other stuff...

Also if you leave and some months/years/decades later IP leaves and this site dissapears, you are giving other young webmasters an oportunity to make their own map making comunities, with their own fans and such. I think that is not that bad afterall happy.gif"


Well, those were just my thoughs. You might not agree with everything tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-09-26 at 12:54:42
Whatever... can you transfer the sen fund to me?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-09-26 at 13:18:36
I sure will, but my bank is having issues with paypal... I don't know what the hells going on with that. But you'll have it as soon as I can put paypal money in there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-09-26 at 15:07:18
I only ask that you get v5 done before you leave completely. We can't do much running off this crap.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-09-26 at 19:07:31
Don't forget to read the middle two paragraphs of my last post. Poor moosey tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-09-26 at 20:40:53
QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Sep 26 2005, 09:54 AM)
Whatever... can you transfer the sen fund to me?
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That's really mature, IP...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-09-26 at 21:05:32
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Sep 26 2005, 07:07 PM)
Don't forget to read the middle two paragraphs of my last post.  Poor moosey tongue.gif

I'll have to start coding instead of pretending to code. I've been working the past week or two, so I actually might have something for you guys to test soon. But, that's kinda off topic for now. smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-09-26 at 22:17:28
Coding? We need some active community interface here. Unless you mean code robot staff members (brilliant idea!) idea.gif

Love to see what you've been coding moosey.

I think I have enough of a grasp of PHP syntax to help out coding if you have any menial/simple tasks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2005-09-27 at 05:26:57
QUOTE(Kame da Sniper @ Sep 26 2005, 07:40 PM)
That's really mature, IP...
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How so?

I also wanna know how senv5 wasn't living up to your expectations.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-09-27 at 19:53:39
I expected it to be more of a team thing, with both our inputs. It just didn't turn out that way.

ADDITION:
Jeez. These SEN'ers catch on faster than I thought. I really made no indication that I was leaving, just that I wasn't doing some things. You can already see the sappy "don't let yoshi leave" stuff going on in the serious forum. ermm.gif

I made my reply. They're assuming now I'm not leaving, but I didn't actually say that wink.gif

ADDITION:
Oh yeah, one last thing IP. I'll finally hand over the domain now. I'm sure theres a way to transfer it over. I can't let you use my domain account because it also contains other domains that belong to me. My email is listed in my profile (you can see it in ACP).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-09-27 at 20:19:53
QUOTE(isolatedpurity @ Sep 27 2005, 02:26 AM)
How so?


I'd expect someone of your caliber and age to respond better than with "whatever, now give me the money." mellow.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-09-27 at 20:24:27
You might as well just post the leaving thread. They're gonna wonder where you are catch over eventually. I'd rather see it over in a couple weeks instead of dragged out over a couple of years. I can understand and empathize with wanting to leave a legacy, but you have to consider what we're going to have to see as well.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-09-27 at 20:42:28
Um, I really don't care about a legacy. I just don't want to make a news post because the last time I did it people were all dramatic about it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2005-09-27 at 21:22:32
Yes, and I'd rather see the drama get done with as fast as it can.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-09-27 at 22:02:34
QUOTE(Kame da Sniper @ Sep 27 2005, 05:19 PM)
I'd expect someone of your caliber and age to respond better than with "whatever, now give me the money." mellow.gif
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Nah, IP would reply
echo("whatever, now give me the money.");
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2005-09-27 at 22:26:33
QUOTE(Mini Moose 2707 @ Sep 27 2005, 09:22 PM)
Yes, and I'd rather see the drama get done with as fast as it can.
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Not really. Once they see im already gone there will be no point. If we make a news post now then they'll think "theres a chance yoshi will come back if I ass kiss!" tongue.gif


QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Sep 27 2005, 10:02 PM)
Nah, IP would reply
echo("whatever, now give me the money.");

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"echo" doesn't need brackets smile.gif
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