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Report, edit, etc...Posted by h3ih02 on 2005-10-30 at 19:15:07
I havn't seen all the ideas that have been posted here so this may have been suggested, but i would like to see a Lord of The Rings mod. I thought about the units for 2 of the races(Two Towers, Zerg, and Last Alliance, Terran) and this is what i have so far:

Two Towers
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* Regular Units *
Orc
Orc Archer
Uruk-Hai
Uruk-Hai Archer
Warg Riders
Dark Wizard
Troll
Cave Troll
Nazgul
Swarm
Mounted Nazgul

* Heroes *
Sauron (Great Eye)
Sauron (Dark Lord)
Uglook (Uruk-Hai)
Witch King (Nazgul)
Saruman
Mouth of Sauron
Grond

* Buildings *
Saurons Tower
  - Cast's Sight(Comsat)
  - Trains Orc, and Orc Archer
Sarumans Tower (Requires: Saurons Tower)
  - Trains Dark Wizard
Orc Pit (Requires: Saurons Tower, Sarumans Tower)
  - Trains Uruk-Hai and Uruk-Hai Archers
Troll Cave (Requires: Saurons Tower, Orc Pit)
  - Trains Troll and Cave Troll
Minas-Morgul (Requires: Saurons Tower, Sarumans Tower)
  - Trains Nazgul and Mounted Nazgul
Dark Forest (Requires: Saurons Tower, Orc Pit)
  - Trains Warg Riders and Swarm
Catapult (Requires: Saurons Tower)
  - Upgrades to Lookout Tower (Requires: Dark Forest)
Warehouse (Requires: Saurons Tower)
  - Supply Depot


Last Alliance
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* Regular Units *
Peasant
Dwarfs
Hobbit
Swordsmen
Spearmen
Archers
Elfs
Elven Archers
Horsemen
Huorns
Ent
Catapult
Giant Eagles

* Heroes *
Aragorn (Swordsman)
Gimli (Dwarf)
Legolas (Elf)
Elrond (Elf)
Treebeard (Ent)
Frodo (Hobbit)
Sam (Hobbit)
Pipin (Hobbit)
Mary (Hobbit)

* Buildings *
Osgiliath
  - Trains Peasant
Dwarven Mine (Requires: Fortress)
  - Trains Dwarfs
Armory (Requires: Fortress)
  - Trains Swordsmen, Spearmen, and Archers
Elven Forge (Requires: Fortress)
  - Trains Elfs and Elven Archers
Hobbit Hole (Requires: Fortress)
  - Trains Hobbit
Woodland Mountain (Requires: Fortress, Elven Forge)
  - Trains Huorns, Ents, and Giant Eagles
Stables (Requires: Fortress, Armory)
  - Trains Horsemen
Farm (Requires: Fortress)
  - Supply Depot


Needs Name
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* Regular *
Pollen (Cloaked)
Seeds (Cloaked and Subunit to Pollen)
Butterfly
Bees
Squirel
Racoon
Skunk (Ensnare)
Bird
Deer
Bear

* Heroes *
Shelob
Balrog
Dragon
Watcher of the Water

* Buildings *
Large Forest
- Trains Pollen
Flower Patch
- Trains Butterfly and Bees
Small Forest
- Trains Squiel, Racoon, Skunk, Bird, Deer, Bear
Boulder
Mountain


Well for the last race, it would be an observer type race. The Pollen and Seeds are perm cloaked and the only thing that can see it is the Saurons Tower when casting Sight. All this race really does is creates scenery. They build anything that is natural. The units are controllable critters so that when you arn't selecting them they wonder. Only some units will be able to attack and they wont have much damage. And i must go so i'll finish this later.

Feel free to respond with more ideas/modifications to what i have and your comments.

Edit: Corrected mistakes pointed out by DT_Battlekruser
Edit 2: Added Comsat
Edit 3: Gron -> Grond and moved to hero
Edit 4: Added third race
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-01 at 00:46:48
sp: uruk-hai

The dark city is Minas-Morgul. (well dead city actually).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-11-01 at 17:43:10
This might be interesting, but to make it good will be difficult... either we comlpetely edit the buildings hardcore, or edit them a bit less and change the tree of what is required/needed to build other things,what units can be built where, what units should be fused to make new units (pikeman + warhorse = Cavalier/Paladin), not to mention all the graphics, abilities, and new attack animations..
Its possible, but It would be rather difficult to make it seem realistic.
It would rock though tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by h3ih02 on 2005-11-01 at 20:47:41
DT_Battlekruser: Thanks and they are fixed

Silver-Dragon: It would be hard, but i think that maybe the SEN Mod Team or Clan MM would be able to pull it off.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2005-11-01 at 21:22:38
* Regular Units *
Orc
Orc Archer
Uruk-Hai
Uruk-Hai Archer
Warg Riders
Dark Wizard
Troll
Cave Troll
Gron
Nazgul
Swarm
Mounted Nazgul

- See no dificuties with these...

* Heroes *
Sauron (Great Eye)
Sauron (Dark Lord)
Uglook (Uruk-Hai)
Witch King (Nazgul)
Saruman
Mouth of Sauron

- Perhaps using Supply Limits to limit the player to 1 hero? Otherwise we'll end up with 100 copies of one hero... Unless the heroes are for UMS only.

* Buildings *
Saurons Tower
- Cast's Sight
- Trains Orc, Orc Archer, and Gron
Sarumans Tower (Requires: Saurons Tower)
- Trains Dark Wizard
Orc Pit (Requires: Saurons Tower, Sarumans Tower)
- Trains Uruk-Hai and Uruk-Hai Archers
Troll Cave (Requires: Saurons Tower, Orc Pit)
- Trains Troll and Cave Troll
Minas-Morgul (Requires: Saurons Tower, Sarumans Tower)
- Trains Nazgul and Mounted Nazgul
Dark Forest (Requires: Saurons Tower, Orc Pit)
- Trains Warg Riders and Swarm
Catapult (Requires: Saurons Tower)
- Upgrades to Lookout Tower (Requires: Dark Forest)
Warehouse (Requires: Saurons Tower)
- Supply Depot

- No problem, as long as you've got some MemGraft. Sauron's Tower would probably have Comsat?


Same comments for the Last Alliance.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2005-11-01 at 22:58:07
How about just make a totally new different game thats not even close to SC wink.gif

we already have enough LOTR dont feel like need top lay a mod of it now also...

just my idea smile.gif i mean its good but there is like helms deep lotr style maps

i like that normand fleet or w/e Voyager7456(MM) is making smile.gif way to go
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2005-11-01 at 23:00:50
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- Perhaps using Supply Limits to limit the player to 1 hero? Otherwise we'll end up with 100 copies of one hero... Unless the heroes are for UMS only.


Yeah, use one supply for each race, and a central supply for heroes.

The biggest problem I see is getting decent graphics.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2005-11-01 at 23:33:17
when you say decent graphic you mean sc type of graphic or better???

btw if you gonna make it is the map style gonna be totally different
Report, edit, etc...Posted by h3ih02 on 2005-11-02 at 08:31:49
When i said hero i meant like SC type heroes for single player and UMS, but it would be cool to be able to have them in multiplayer.

Voyager7456(MM): Yeah, thats the only thing, MemGraft :/. And yes "Sight" is Comsat(forgot to put that in, fixed)

BoyScout: Creating a whole new thing for LOTR would be harder than making a mod. And also i think it would be up to the person or people making the mod on how the gameplay will be.

Edit: Fixed spelling error
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2005-11-02 at 18:34:44
your point is.... you wanna play sc with lotr skin thats all??
Report, edit, etc...Posted by h3ih02 on 2005-11-02 at 18:39:07
BoyScout: when did i say that? I said it would be up to the modders, i cant just tell people what to do, i just gave a suggestion on some information i thought up, they can do what they want with it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RedNara on 2005-11-02 at 18:54:04
ah ok... well ill be looking forward to nomad fleet then
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hell_Pyro on 2005-11-15 at 20:38:35
Great Mod idea.
I'd help make the Mod if I knew how ot make mods.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-11-16 at 11:00:03

Spelling: Grond, not Gron

And the gigantic battering ram should be a hero wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by h3ih02 on 2005-11-16 at 11:46:55
Demaris: Fixed and i like the idea of it being a hero, so i moved it too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by h3ih02 on 2005-12-05 at 08:50:16
Well i had an idea for the third race. Please respond with comments and ideas!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ninebreaker on 2005-12-05 at 21:18:07
Gaia

It's something to do with the earth and it's living things... i think...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Hell_Pyro on 2005-12-05 at 22:54:54
Include neutral units for the third, like the borrow-wights or the balrog.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by www.com.au on 2005-12-15 at 12:24:09
Maybe they should have those tall walking tree guys.. i think theyre called ents?

sorry i dont know many of the lotr names..


This would be extremely difficult to make graphics for, but i reckon if you made all the buildings not liftable, would it be easier to just make 1 sprite for each building?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by petphot on 2005-12-18 at 23:05:25
and i would recommend Tom Bombadil and his girlfriend (u wont know who they r unless u read book 1)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SirBean on 2005-12-19 at 05:16:16
More things to think about:

The easterlings

The Haradrim (Oliphaunts!!!)

The corsairs (pirates)

The wild men of the mountain

(These could possibly be your 3rd race? Evil humans?)

The Army of the Dead - Hard to incorporate, I know, but just plain cool.

I would suggest renaming some of the buildings to something more specifically LOTR: i.e. call the stables Edoras and the horsemen Rohirrim, woodland mountain to Fangorn forest, etc. Otherwise, it's pretty much just a Warcraft total conversion (at least for the alliance side...)

**UPDATE**
Actually I just thought of one more thing: Your timelines are a little weird. The Last Alliance was thousands of years before LOTR. It's that big battle that first destroyed Sauron's body and turned him into the Big Eye. Saruman wasn't around then. In LOTR, the elves and dwarves fought Sauron and Saruman on their own. Only humans joined Aragorn's army.

Anyways, not trying be picky, but if you want actual campaign missions, this might be a big deal...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Red2Blue on 2005-12-19 at 08:42:12
Say, couldn't you just play wc3? I mean most of the units in wc3 look exactly like the people from LotR. Just a few modificiations to the units and its pretty much a mod in itself.

I guess ill be looking forward to this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SirBean on 2005-12-19 at 23:51:15
QUOTE(Red2Blue @ Dec 19 2005, 06:42 AM)
Say, couldn't you just play wc3? I mean most of the units in wc3 look exactly like the people from LotR. Just a few modificiations to the units and its pretty much a mod in itself.

I guess ill be looking forward to this.
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Or better yet, play Battle for Middle Earth... tongue.gif
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