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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ninebreaker on 2005-11-23 at 00:52:22
Basically what im trying to say is,

Do you think card counting is wrong? Why or why not?

Debate.


I think that it is not wrong to count cards in casinos because technically, you are not using anything to help you win, except your mind, and if you can beat the system, there shouldn't be anything wrong about it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2005-11-23 at 00:53:48
No, its not wrong.

But its a lot more effective to learn the math equations and ratios when trying to get a perfect hand.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-11-23 at 00:54:01
[center]No way dude. It's a strategy. Just because you're better at math than the other people doesn't mean you're a cheater.[/center]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-11-23 at 00:54:16
absolutely not

maybe if u brought a piece of paper to write down the cards which might let others see, then it'll be wrong, but if you keep it to urself, i think it's a good strategy
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-11-23 at 02:41:06
not wrong. it takes skills to card count. the only reason casinos say its wrong is because they loose money from the smart card counters closedeyes.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2005-11-23 at 11:39:45
can someone explain exactly what card counting is. Ive heard of it but never knew what it was or what game u do it in
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valug on 2005-11-23 at 11:44:19
[sub]When playing blackjack, card counting would be keeping track the cards that have already been played through the shuffle in your mind. So you have a better idea of what card you will get when you hit, this reduces the house's chance to win, making the casino lose money.[/sub]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2005-11-23 at 11:45:59
Card counting is not 'wrong.'

It flouts the rules of the game in Blackjack, for example, because it's supposed to be about luck and very simple strategy, but I say that if you're clever enough to count cards then it's the game that is flawed, not you because you can count cards.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valug on 2005-11-23 at 11:57:44
[sub]I don't see a problem with it. Its not like anyone can master casrd counting. If your smart enough to do it, so be it. Its not like the rules agaist card counting really mean anything. Its not like someone can tell your card counting by looking at you, so its impossible to get punished for it, unless they kick you out of the casino for winning too much.[/sub]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-23 at 12:11:26
It just shows you how casinos do not want you to win.. taking away every advantage you have.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2005-11-23 at 13:11:18
Nothing wrong with using your brain. Casinos are in business for money, and it's simply a way of exploiting the system. It's not technically illegal, but most casinos throw you out immediately if they catch you doing it.

And Valug, the MIT Blackjack Team did master the system.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-23 at 13:24:48
I think anything short of hacking the machines is all right. Period.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by I-X-King-X-I on 2005-11-23 at 13:33:05
nope..

i even learend how to some what my self

i win like every time me and my friends play (we play for money..dont tell biggrin.gif )

when i played my dad he got mad tho..said i was cheating..but he always encourages me to use my mind rofl
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2005-11-23 at 13:55:15
No theres nothing wrong with it its kinda like some card game where you have to do those kind of cheats to win its the point of the game (Cant remember name) But anyway theres nothing wrong with it when slot machines first came out you could rub your feet alot on the carpet before playing to create static and screw up the machines and get the money that is cheating
Report, edit, etc...Posted by wesmic da pimp on 2005-11-23 at 15:05:58
Usually in casino blackjack they use a total of 6 decks of cards at once. It's pretty hard to keep track of everything that way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valug on 2005-11-23 at 15:12:05
[sub]The casino I go to uses a 3 deck shoe, and even though it makes it harder, there are people who have mastered it on 6 deck shoes.[/sub]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Turin.oO on 2005-11-23 at 17:20:48
no its not wrong. Its like, when you make a bound, and you have a specific way its supposed to be possible. Then you go and play with someone else, and they beat it in a much easier, quicker way. Depending on whether you want it that way, or you wanted it to be hard, then you would go back and fix it so that it is more difficult. but you would never punish someone for getting through the obstacle their own way. If casino's have a problem with card counting then their dealers need to deal quick and fast and keep the game moving. But lets face it, you cannot kick people out because they are smarter than you. And ill tell you right now, casinos NEVER lose money. They only make less. I hate casinos and their money hogging. Its gross.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2005-11-23 at 21:34:59
It is if you use a computer, not if its done old school. king.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by M_s4 on 2005-11-23 at 22:46:25
Even if it wrong, how would they ever figure out that you are doing it? I mean, someone would obviously get suspicious if you are beating the odds, but they can't kick you out. It's not like what you do with card counting cant be done without it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-25 at 20:13:21
I wouldnt do it often, as most casinos are run by the mob.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by T-MaStAA on 2005-11-25 at 21:39:44
Well I think that any form of cheating is wrong even though it takes a very skilled brain to count cards.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Minority on 2005-11-25 at 23:06:45
QUOTE(Insane @ Nov 24 2005, 05:25 AM)
No theres nothing wrong with it its kinda like some card game where you have to do those kind of cheats to win its the point of the game (Cant remember name)
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That game is called Cheat... I think.

I don't think card counting is wrong, because casinos get enough money ripping off the people who are stupid enough to waste all their money there, so it's only fair that we get to rip the casinos off, too.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 00cnr on 2005-11-27 at 19:36:38
The only reason casinos call it cheating is because it gives the smart player the advantage. Card counting is a strategy, not cheating.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-11-30 at 15:54:16
It's definantly far from cheating. And 'Cheat' is a game also known as 'BS' or 'Bullshiz'.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2005-11-30 at 16:02:58
That is my favorite card game... My dad doesn't like it because of its name.. He thinks it's childish -_-
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