Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2005-12-05 at 21:07:24
Updated: 12/28/05
Please read these before replying or creating a topic. The reason I'm adding this is because I've seen a huge amount of useless posts in serious discussion. It's overwhelming and managing so many topics is very difficult (I don't read everything). Please follow these rules to make it more enjoyable for everyone else.
Basic Staredit.net Rules:
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=395
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=22923
Rules:
1.Do not flame. This is self-explanatory and is a standard rule through the whole site. For non-experienced web users, flaming is verbally attacking another person.
2.Be reasonable. The world doesn't revolve around you. You could be wrong. If you are, admit it. If you don't think you are, back it up with reason. Do not ever commit an ad hominem (Attacking a member verbally) while arguing. It will be considered as flaming if such an event is to occur.
3.Type with clarity. If you can't read your own post, it's very likely that other people will not even try. You don't need to have the most perfect grammar, but (at least) try to avoid substitution of letters (or numbers) for words. Don't use "u" for "you" or "1" for "one". It makes the post look very unprofessional, and as such, it will be treated with less attention and more mockery.
4.Do not spam. Don't post useless information. A good rule of thumb before posting is asking yourself this question: "Will other people care what I say?". If the answer is no, don't post it. Too much spam will result in huge off topic threads; this will make it more confusing for those who actually want to contribute something.
5.Don't use improper language. No one is able to justify the usage on such a word. If you're going to use that kind of a word in this type of forum, you're in the wrong place. It will never be needed here. If you want to emphasize something, simply use BBCodes.
If you're not sure what these are, look at the buttons above the textbox when you're posting. There should be boxes there, simply click a button twice and it will have the correct code to match that characteristic. But the text between the codes to achieve the effect.
6.Be courteous. Treat others the way you want to be treated. When you carry on discussions amongst each other, be respectful and not so harsh. Avoid provoking each other or flaming will erupt.
Links of Interest
On Debating
http://jerz.setonhill.edu/writing/argument/building.html
How to build an arguement.
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
How to build an arguement; also contains many logical fallacies and how not to commit them
The logic of the site is correct; the examples they use may offend you.
On Persuasion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_persuasion
The three components required for effective arguementation
Subpoints:
-Credentials
Qualifications and why it's important.
-Emotions
The more emotion involved, the more power the message.
-Logic
If it's not logical, no one will listen to it.
On Logical Fallacies
Fallacy Tutorial
Logical Fallacies and the Art of Debate
Fallacy Files
Wikipedia's Article
All sites are equally valid; each contain an introduction on why logical fallacies are important and why you should avoid them. Read this portion at least once!
..Add more as needed
Please read these before replying or creating a topic. The reason I'm adding this is because I've seen a huge amount of useless posts in serious discussion. It's overwhelming and managing so many topics is very difficult (I don't read everything). Please follow these rules to make it more enjoyable for everyone else.
Basic Staredit.net Rules:
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=395
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=22923
Rules:
1.Do not flame. This is self-explanatory and is a standard rule through the whole site. For non-experienced web users, flaming is verbally attacking another person.
QUOTE
Good: "I think you're wrong, heres why"
Bad: "You stupid **** you're so dumb you cant realize that this is the truth"
Bad: "You stupid **** you're so dumb you cant realize that this is the truth"
2.Be reasonable. The world doesn't revolve around you. You could be wrong. If you are, admit it. If you don't think you are, back it up with reason. Do not ever commit an ad hominem (Attacking a member verbally) while arguing. It will be considered as flaming if such an event is to occur.
QUOTE
Good: "Ok, I understand now, but ..." or "No, that's not right because..."
Bad: "No! You're wrong! You're just too dumb to understand it!
Bad: "No! You're wrong! You're just too dumb to understand it!
3.Type with clarity. If you can't read your own post, it's very likely that other people will not even try. You don't need to have the most perfect grammar, but (at least) try to avoid substitution of letters (or numbers) for words. Don't use "u" for "you" or "1" for "one". It makes the post look very unprofessional, and as such, it will be treated with less attention and more mockery.
QUOTE
Good: "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog."
Bad: "OmGZ, u r soo dumb y is this right/ noo wtf. makes no since at all
Bad: "OmGZ, u r soo dumb y is this right/ noo wtf. makes no since at all
4.Do not spam. Don't post useless information. A good rule of thumb before posting is asking yourself this question: "Will other people care what I say?". If the answer is no, don't post it. Too much spam will result in huge off topic threads; this will make it more confusing for those who actually want to contribute something.
QUOTE
Good: "So the problems are ... and we should try to fix them because ...
Bad: "Who cares, I am the best anyway." or "So, who likes me?" etc.
Bad: "Who cares, I am the best anyway." or "So, who likes me?" etc.
5.Don't use improper language. No one is able to justify the usage on such a word. If you're going to use that kind of a word in this type of forum, you're in the wrong place. It will never be needed here. If you want to emphasize something, simply use BBCodes.
If you're not sure what these are, look at the buttons above the textbox when you're posting. There should be boxes there, simply click a button twice and it will have the correct code to match that characteristic. But the text between the codes to achieve the effect.
QUOTE
Good: "You're wrong because of ..."
Bad: "Stfu
, you're wrong because you're a and my answer is right because happens"
Note: Replace with whatever you see fit, but you get the idea as to how ugly it is
Bad: "Stfu
, you're wrong because you're a and my answer is right because happens"Note: Replace
with whatever you see fit, but you get the idea as to how ugly it is6.Be courteous. Treat others the way you want to be treated. When you carry on discussions amongst each other, be respectful and not so harsh. Avoid provoking each other or flaming will erupt.
Links of Interest
On Debating
http://jerz.setonhill.edu/writing/argument/building.html
How to build an arguement.
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
How to build an arguement; also contains many logical fallacies and how not to commit them
The logic of the site is correct; the examples they use may offend you.
On Persuasion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modes_of_persuasion
The three components required for effective arguementation
Subpoints:
-Credentials
Qualifications and why it's important.
-Emotions
The more emotion involved, the more power the message.
-Logic
If it's not logical, no one will listen to it.
On Logical Fallacies
Fallacy Tutorial
Logical Fallacies and the Art of Debate
Fallacy Files
Wikipedia's Article
All sites are equally valid; each contain an introduction on why logical fallacies are important and why you should avoid them. Read this portion at least once!
..Add more as needed