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Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-12-14 at 23:50:18

Okay so I was wrote this paper about the "Rise of Nazism" and so I wrote an annotation for my bibliography and she "corrects" this sentence. I don't get where I messed up...

My sentence: "Not bad for an overview of how the Nazis came to power, however it does not include as many details about Hitler."

Her corrected sentence: "Not bad for an overview of how the Nazis came to power; however, it does not include as many details about Hitler."

Aren't semi-colons supposed to seperate 2 sentences? I probably should have a comma after however but I think the semi-colon is completely wrong.

Edit: Typos

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-12-14 at 23:58:47

QUOTE(LegacyWeapon @ Dec 14 2005, 10:50 PM)

Okay so I was wrote this paper about the "Rise of Nazism" and so I wrote an annotation for my bibliography and she "corrects" this sentence. I don't get where I messed up...

My sentence: "Not a bad for an overview of how the Nazis came to power, however it does not include as many details about Hitler."

Her corrected sentence: "Not a bad for an overview of how the Nazis came to power; however, it does not include as many details about Hitler."

Aren't semi-colons supposed to seperate 2 sentences? I probably should have a comma after however but I think the semi-colon is completely wrong.
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is that exactly, word-for-word, the sentence that your teacher corrected?

you said " Not a bad for an overview..."

semicolons separate two independent clauses, and the second clause is kind of independent...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2005-12-15 at 00:00:55

Whoops made a few typos. But the first clause doesn't even have a subject...

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-12-15 at 00:03:09

:0 you're right.....guess that means ur teacher is teh st00pid

go up to him/her and smack him/her in the face with a rubber fish/monkey

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-12-15 at 00:40:56

QUOTE(LegacyWeapon @ Dec 15 2005, 12:00 AM)

Whoops made a few typos. But the first clause doesn't even have a subject...
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The first clause has an understood subject. It would be grammerically incorrect if used by itself (since that's what someone would SAY although we speak improper english all the time). But what I gather is that the sentence was towards the end of the assignment or was some sort of assessment of something already mentioned in your writing.

Take this sentence: "Move out of the way!" The subject is understood to be the person it's directed at. I don't believe your teacher was wrong.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-12-15 at 00:46:13

i dont think that was a quote
and besides, you still cant use ; in a sentence with only one independent clause, it doesnt matter what was said before or after, that semicolon was used wrongly

Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2005-12-15 at 00:52:07

I think that semi colon is right.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2005-12-15 at 00:52:51

QUOTE(no-0b @ Dec 15 2005, 12:46 AM)

i dont think that was a quote
and besides, you still cant use ; in a sentence with only one independent clause, it doesnt matter what was said before or after, that semicolon was used wrongly
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I wasn't quoting him for my "Move" sentence, I was just using it as an example. The subject of his sentence is understood to be whatever it was he's referring to in the essay or whatever. Personally I think it would've been better to say "It's not a bad...etc" instead of beginning with "Not". It just makes things clearer, IMO.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2005-12-15 at 00:56:29

agreedzorzed

DX i gotta stop adding zorz/zorzed to my words......

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-12-15 at 14:14:12

The comma in the first sentence makes a comma splice. 'However' can not be used as an interjection between two independent clauses without a semicolon. So, either a semicolon or a period would have worked fine, not the comma, unless you used 'but'.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-12-15 at 15:35:02

They do connect independant clauses but also are used to connect sentences more closly than a period and sometimes to remove conection words. In the dited version it should remove ,however for just a semicolon.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-12-15 at 20:58:34

QUOTE(LegacyWeapon @ Dec 14 2005, 11:50 PM)

The semi colon couldnt work.. Semi-colons seperate sentences. Look, Ill take what she said and..

Not bad for an overview of how the Nazis came to power; however, it does not include as many details about Hitler.

Not bad for an overview of how the Nazis came to power.
It does not include as many details about Hitler.

There's like, no subject in the first one.. But i dont know if it has to do with that the "Understood" crap. I dont care, everything I learned in English I ignored. Like.. everything else...

EDIT- WAAH Start-Quote in wrong place

Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2005-12-15 at 21:00:28

The semi-colon is correct. Your understood subject is the overview and each part can stand alone, but are of similar or same subject.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-12-15 at 21:02:58

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by warhammer40000 on 2005-12-15 at 21:05:03

Haha

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2005-12-16 at 06:13:13

Not bad for an overview of how the Nazis came to power.
However it does not include as many details about Hitler.

It does work with a semicolon.

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