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What do you guys think of this guy? Article : http://www.wired.com/news/games/0,2101,698...tory_page_prev2

I detest people like him and Jack Thompson. I play plenty of violent video games. I haven't gone off on a murderous rampage. Hell, I haven't even thrown a punch at someone.

hes just another guy with alot of problems. Oldie i bet, heck only when they get violent is when they cant play the video games. wth are they talking about? these people are worrying about too much on something too little! sure kids of 6 cant compare between game and a real life but over 10 can, atleast not someone who doesnt need a psych exam.

THAT IS GAY!!!! THAT IS GAY!~!! plus you can't buy the mature games if your not 17! THAT IS GAY!!!! THAT IS GAY!!!!! man we need to put together with this site and go against this kidn of law! man this is so flawed, i really didnt need to do that but i couldnt help myself.

I always laugh when people say things are getting worse. Did we forget all of the wars over territory, religion, and greed that have happened throughout history? What about slavery? The Holocaust? Public executions? Just because we are more honest nowadays than we were in the 1950s (when we pretended everything was okay), does not mean things are getting WORSE.

You could argue that ANY type of entertainment leads to violence.

[center]Human nature leads to violence.
Don't complain about stuff, you're always going to be the minority. Just shut up and deal with it.[/center]

Video games might be the alcohol and drugs of tomorrow. Some people use them irresponsibly and they get outlawed and restricted.

There are already age restrictions, it's the parents fault for getting them the games. I don't see any of these idiots whining about how parents are actually the ones buying them grand theft auto. Playing baseball might encourage a young child to swing at people. Exercising might encourage people to run over someone untill they die. We should all be put into plastic bubbles and have no influence from anything whatsoever.
Most people just kill others and blame it on something as stupid as video games. If I were on the life sentence I would blame anything.

tru.dat

I hate people callnig shooters "murder simulators" or terror training devices. There's a big farking differences between toggleing a joystick back and forth and aiming a sniper rifle. Even tehn, the mechanics are DEFINANTLY not realistic. Past that, most videogames are anythnig but realistic.

True.Dat


Who the hell do you think is fighting your wars?

It has a farking 17+ label for a farking reason! People like him want me to shoot him, or not shoot him, just to prove a point.

Now if only someone were to find a relationship between schoolwork and violence.

History has plenty of guns. Makes me want to try one out...

*Silver-Dragon laughs*



Ditto. I don't fight at all in school, and I see more death on my computer then anyone else in my class. He's an idiot.


Mostly you're right, but some entertainment leads to violence.
What about if someone releases a video game based solely on torture?
That should increase violence.

Everything else except the last sentence is correct.



Exactly. In fact, I think bloody video games are good. When people don't get queasy about seeing blood, they have a larger chance to become doctors, etc.


Well, I don't get violent, but I bet plenty of people do .


Even better then Demaris's. And very accurate. They think studying battles like Gettysberg won't get us craving for blood (lol) and video games will?


Anyway, to some extent, being violent is the right answer. Think about if the people who play those video games attacks everyone who doesn't, the population will go down dramatically and we will be much safer and the earth will last longer.
Its not exactly a happy thought (well, not happy if I'll be one of the dead ones), but its true.


I never understood that either. Some people are plain stupid. Probably to make it look more professional, they'll make Moderate Adult (30+) if they could get away with it.

LOL I LEANRED HOW TO USE A SHOTTY ON CS AND IT MADE ME VIOLENT!

Obviously, the parents didn't tell them that it isn't real life, or another mental matter of something could've promoted the violence. I don't see why the government has to get involved with another fake thing. *coughPatriotActIraqWarcough*

Hey if people can't shoot things on there computers then they are going to shoot things in real life.

On the other hand they could get addicted to shooting people on the computer and decide to try it out for real. But that won't happen too much.

I'd say it's only for mentally retardeds to about 20 to 40 Intelligence quality
human cannot decide between real life and simulation.

I hate people like this. They say it influehnces our behavior, but I think anyone who's not mentally unstable, below seven years old, or posesses an IQ below 85 should be able to distinguish between video games and reality. Those people who can't, get them away from the video games. It's called the ERSB ratings.

It boils my blood how whenever things go wrong, like Columbine, people blame video games and heavy metal. "Oh yeah, they shot up the school just because they were a bunch of freaky goth kids who played violent video games and listened to Marilyn Manson." No, they shot up the school because they were farking sick and tired from all the bullshiz they got from the large amount of kids there. Nobody wants to blame those sadistic illegitimate childs, because they seem healthy and All-American, and the shooters didn't, and Marilyn Manson didn't, and violent video games weren't.

And, as always, there's the Onion article to link to.

yea., but all mentally ill had the choice to choose between playing or not playing. Also it is not the seller's fault since he/she didnt do anything. Like Voyager, I do most violent things in most violent games like Resident Evil, or many other horror games, but i dont go shooting people...

Omg..

That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard. Is it me, or did it say that that Tetris is a dangerous game for kids?


I'd say anyone who actually can't distinguish between reality and simulation either deserves to.. well, something bad, or put to rest. (No Offense). Anyone who can not distinguish between reality and simulation would be happier dead.

Is the question here about "reality vs simulation" or, is it actually "reality vs sTimulation"? Many people here are saying you have to be a complete MORON to not distinguish the difference between reality and gaming. First off, is it not true that the more immersed you are into game, the better you usually are at it? The more focus in, the better output; how else can people who play Chess get so good?

Secondly, consider this "reality vs stimulation vs simulation" scenerio. Supposedly you are playing CS and you head shot someone with a sniper rifle. It is real that you pressed the buttons to shoot the bullet into their head. It is real that the enemy has now been "killed". It is a simulation that you shot somebody in the head. However, they BOTH have stimulation where despite real or fake, you still experienced it.

Finally, why do kids need to think simulation and reality are different? Those who are ticked off at the world could use video games as ideas. That one PS2 game "The Prison" or something like that has a creature for every single death sentence possible; that would bring interesting ideas. Or how about Mario games with Fireballs (get all your laughter out before going further)? I'm not saying people become arsonists by playing silly Mario games, I'm saying that those who are in extreme displeasure (but not combating sim vs reality) can see ways to get back at the world much easier from simple ideas in video games.


So here's my argument:
1) People who are usually better at video games are those who can get more immersed in it (and thus more sTimulated by it).
1b) (educational assumption) Creativity (the ability to think outside of normal "rational" bounds) is not inversely related to intelligence
2) If you were to seriously try to examine the difference between real and simulation in video games, the line can get quite blurry.
2b) This usually wasn't a problem until games looked more realistic.
2c) sTimulation also helps make the line blurry.
3) Therefore, those who who can get more immersed in video games are more likely to have their minds become blurred between real and simulation, reguardless of intelligence.
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1) There exists people who are not immersed in video games.
2) If these people are extremely angry at the world, then they may wish to destroy it or whoever is making their life miserable.
3) In order to get a plan to stop their misery, one must find ideas from in themselves or from the outside world.
4) Video games are excellent sources to find ideas for your now distraught mind.
4b) Television and the Internet are also excellent sources.
5) Therefore, even people who do distinguish the difference between reality and simulation can still blame video games for their "great idea".

That game is called 'The Suffering' not 'The Prison'. It looks pretty interesting, actually.

You know what i learned, Pro or daily life Gamers Have an IQ above average then people who dont play games like 1st person shooters and what not

Omg, what did you guys get when you went to that page? I got like something way far off than video games, I got something about lyrics.