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Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2005-12-21 at 18:39:25
Okay I'd like to get your opinions on Michael Jackson. I personally admire his earlier work and I am very sad that he felt the need to change himself. IMO Beat It, Thriller, Billie Jean, and Smooth Criminal were all excellent. Smooth Criminal was a bit questionable because that was when he was white, I didn't like it as much, but I love the dance moves. I for a while really was just hating Michael Jackson because all I looked at was what the news has and that isn't really very accurate. I don't really like anything after he became white (Smooth Criminal is borderline), but everything when he was black was awesome. I couldn't really think of any reason why he would feel the need to change himself except for something like fear of losing approval over time, or something along those lines. I'm not gay, but I think Michael Jackson was a very good looking guy around age 24, that was 1982 around the time Beat It, Thriller, and Billie Jean came out. I love the song Billie Jean, how everything lights up when he touches it. I'm not exactly sure what this is saying though.. Anyone elses opinion on Michael Jackson?

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2005-12-21 at 18:41:26

He does have a few good songs in his early career (not with the jackson 5), but now he is well.....Creepy.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2005-12-21 at 18:48:11
yeah he had a very disturbed childhood that affected the way he is today. he was torn between religion and fame.
he is really creepy now.... i think hes trying to be peter pan with his pointed nose and ears >.>

as for his molestation it wouldnt be a surprize to me if he did molest those children.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2005-12-21 at 19:26:04
Well a lot of the molestation stuff may just be lies. Also I admit he is weird now, I just watched a video called Ghosts where he acted like every part and he was like entertaining people. The thing is he changed a lot on the outside, but he probably either didn't change much at all on the inside and was always like this, or he changed like tenfold on the inside. I don't really know, but it sounds like those are the two most likely options for how he changed mentally. He is creepy, he makes me think of something comedic, but it's not really funny, he used to be inspirational, but now he's like you've said creepy. I'd like to talk to him, I think that would help me understand a bit better. I considered alternate possiblities and I thought it probably would've been best if he had died around age 25, then he would still be an inspiration I think..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KaboomHahahein on 2005-12-21 at 19:39:04
I don't think he molested the children, just a lot of people were trying to get some money off of him.

And there are a lot of rumours why he changed his skin colour. The one that I remember is that he apparently had a kind of skin disease and he had white spots on his skin so he just decided to turn completely white. Seeing as he is very weird, it could have just been for attention or another crazy thing he felt like doing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Freedawk on 2005-12-21 at 19:59:08
Well I don't think Michael Jackson is bad. I don't like him, but I don't think he should be accused. Well...I like only a few of his songs. Old Michael > White Boy...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2005-12-21 at 20:15:04
I agree with both of you, I don't think he molested children, but I also don't think he had that skin disease, from what I've read it appears his supporters claimed that while he didn't say anything. Something got botched with a plastic surgery, but he didn't sue for it. He may have either told the plastic surgeon to turn him white, or it may have been an accident that he decided he liked.. I don't know. I actually sort of like him now, the most recent music video of his I saw was from 2001, I don't really like it in the sense of I think it's good music, but he still can dance really well, and he's sort of funny.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2005-12-21 at 20:47:03
Yeah I dont think that he molested the children eather but he is a pretty good person to frame for something like that I mean look at his past
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2005-12-21 at 20:54:34
Two words. Smooth Criminal.

Only Jackson song I know by heart, only one i want to know. It's the song I play starcraft to.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2005-12-21 at 21:19:45
I love that song Syphon, I'm listening to it right now, I have the video as well. You have the extended version?

Lyrics:

As He Came Into The Window
It Was The Sound Of A Crescendo
He Came Into Her Apartment
He Left The Bloodstains On The Carpet
She Ran Underneath The Table
He Could See She Was Unable
So She Ran Into The Bedroom
She Was Struck Down, It Was Her Doom

Annie Are You OK?
So, Annie Are You OK
Are You OK, Annie
Annie Are You OK?
So, Annie Are You OK
Are You OK, Annie
Annie Are You OK?
So, Annie Are You OK?
Are You OK, Annie?
Annie Are You OK?
So, Annie Are You Ok, Are You Ok, Annie?

(Annie Are You OK?)
(Will You Tell Us That You're OK?)
(There's A Sign In The Window)
(That He Struck You - A Crescendo Annie)
(He Came Into Your Apartment)
(He Left The Bloodstains On The Carpet)
(Then You Ran Into The Bedroom)
(You Were Struck Down)
(It Was Your Doom)

Annie Are You OK?
So, Annie Are You OK?
Are You OK Annie?
Annie Are You OK?
So, Annie Are You OK?
Are You OK Annie?
Annie Are You OK?
So, Annie Are You OK?
Are You OK Annie?
You've Been Hit By
You've Been Hit By -v A Smooth Criminal

So They Came Into The Outway
It Was Sunday - What A Black Day
Mouth To Mouth Resus - Citation
Sounding Heartbeats - Intimidations

Annie Are You OK?
So, Annie Are You OK?
Are You OK Annie?
Annie Are You OK?
So, Annie Are You OK?
Are You OK Annie?
Annie Are You OK?
So, Annie Are You OK?
Are You OK Annie?
Annie Are You OK?
So, Annie Are You OK
Are You OK Annie?

(Annie Are You OK?)
(Will You Tell Us That You're OK?)
(There's A Sign In The Window)
(That He Struck You - A Crescendo Annie)
(He Came Into Your Apartment)
(He Left The Bloodstains On The Carpet)
(Then You Ran Into The Bedroom)
(You Were Struck Down)
(It Was Your Doom)

(Annie Are You OK?)
(So, Annie Are You OK?)
(Are You OK Annie?)
(You've Been Hit By)
(You've Been Struck By -
A Smooth Criminal)

Okay, I Want Everybody To Clear The Area Right Now!

Aaow!
(Annie Are You OK?)
I Don't Know!
(Will You Tell Us, That You're OK?)
I Don't Know!
(There's A Sign In The Window)
I Don't Know!
(That He Struck You - A Crescendo Annie)
I Don't Know!
(He Came Into Your Apartment)
I Don't Know!
(Left Bloodstains On The Carpet)
I Don't Know Why Baby!
(Then You Ran Into The Bedroom)
I Don't Know!
(You Were Struck Down)
(It Was Your Doom - Annie!)
(Annie Are You OK?)
Dad Gone It - Baby!
(Will You Tell Us, That You're OK?)
Dad Gone It - Baby!
(There's A Sign In The Window)
Dad Gone It - Baby!
(That He Struck You - A Crescendo Annie)
Hoo! Hoo!
(He Came Into Your Apartment)
Dad Gone It!
(Left Bloodstains On The Carpet)
Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
(Then You Ran Into The Bedroom)
Dad Gone It!
(You Were Struck Down)
(It Was Your Doom-Annie!)
Aaow!!!

It's the only song of his that I consider good music from after he was dyed white. When he was black and not like a five year old I thought all of his songs were cool, he just got way too girly, even though in 2001 he made "You Rock My World" where he was in like a bar and he got this hot girl through a song, in the end the bar they were in was burned down because they got in a fight in it and had to run. So I think he's either posing as straight or he is straight and just very feminine. Like I said before, I'd like to talk to him, I think that would clear things up.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonshine on 2005-12-21 at 21:27:25
Gotta say, I'm a fan of Michael Jackson. In my opinion, it doesn't get any better than Billy Jean. But of his white stuff, You Rock My World aint bad. His black stuff was simply so awesome that he cannot be expected to pump out music up to that level of awesomeness anymore.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2005-12-21 at 21:32:01
I at this point am also a fan "You Rock My World" is pretty good too. I watched it and I was laughing like throughout the whole thing. Ever seen Ghosts? It's like a 40 minute movie he made, it's so weird it really makes him look more like a child molester.. If you get a chance you should watch it. Billie Jean was rockin', every time I watch it I'm still amazed at how awesome it is. Thriller was pretty cool too, but I wouldn't consider it a match up for Billie Jean. I love his dance moves too. He looks so smooth even now in his older years, everything he does looks smooth.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2005-12-21 at 22:59:39
michael jackson clearly disappointed me with his new look. I really liked his stuff before the change.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2005-12-21 at 23:01:43
That pretty much sums up how I feel, but I sorta went more in-depth. I've watched some of his videos since then and he doesn't really seem like a pervert or a child molester he just seems weird, he seems really different on the inside although not as much so as on the outside. He seems more like the average horny guy just trying to get a girl and making songs about it, where before he was like really cool, unique, and way better than the standard.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-12-21 at 23:08:25
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what a way to get minerals wink.gif.


MJ... Well i think its screwed up he changed colors, he looks female now and on my opinion i think he did do things with the childeren. But hey probally another question we will never find out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-12-21 at 23:12:36
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I can't think of that monster as human anymore. (S)he had a good thing going early in his career. There's got to be some psychological issues that made him change so much.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2005-12-21 at 23:21:32
I agree but watching some of his videos he seems normal enough, I mean looking at some of the people now-a-days, you'd just have to know he changed from black to white to really think it was pretty weird. I honestly don't believe he's the kind of person who would have done the stuff with the kids, but I might be wrong, I don't think so though, BTW you're stupid, I change my color because I like the way it looks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2005-12-21 at 23:27:19
[center]Most 'celebrities' are messed up. Normal people don't act like that.
I want to watch the Martin Bashir documentary... Probably give me a good laugh.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2005-12-21 at 23:29:38
QUOTE(nuclearrabbit @ Dec 21 2005, 09:12 PM)
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I can't think of that monster as human anymore. (S)he had a good thing going early in his career. There's got to be some psychological issues that made him change so much.
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not the color code dumby!

the lyrics
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2005-12-21 at 23:31:12
BILLY JEAN IS AT MY DOOR!

Meh, he's okay for his older stuff, now his original nose is probably is some preservation jar in a black music history museum. But, not that good anymore IMO.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2005-12-21 at 23:32:06
I thought the lyrics would be a nice addition, I didn't do it to get minerals, anyhow let's get back on topic immediately if you want to respond send me a PM.

On Topic: Saw Camo's post, yeah he used to be good, watch Ghosts it's a good laugh, most of his stuff after he went white was just creepy funny.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2005-12-22 at 20:37:00
honestly the only think i liked about micheal jackson was Smooth Criminal.

and yes i do believe that he raped those children.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Moonshine on 2005-12-22 at 21:03:34
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and yes i do believe that he raped those children.
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So? Clearly the United States government doesn't, and that's good enough for me.

I watched part of the documentary, and Jackson comes across as more simply asexual as opposed to a pedophile.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Tmac on 2005-12-22 at 23:20:07
Documentaries could be misleading
Report, edit, etc...Posted by NerdyTerdy on 2005-12-23 at 16:04:58
So could the media. I don't believe that he is a pedophile.
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