Report, edit, etc...Posted by lil_nemesis on 2005-12-31 at 07:09:03
Well l am slowly learning html and well l find that www.w3schools.com is ok if you want to stay a newbie in html, since it doesn't give you enough information. Does anyone no of any other good tutorial websites that have advanced html or html tutorials in lots of detail?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-31 at 10:23:23
There's really not that much to HTML. Its a very very basic language.
If you're looking for the advanced stuff, thats scripting/styling.
For scripting, I advise looking at PHP and Javascript.
PHP is a server side language, while Javascript is a Browser language. Together, if mastered, very powerful, although PHP/Javascript are practically the toughest website languages. Master that, and you can go on to programming.
Styling is done using CSS. CSS lets you set attributes to tags, such as make the background of a table column an image, or the background of text a certain color, or even changing colors of the scrollbar. Its powerful for looks, and is very easy to learn/use.
I made a small HTML tutorial here.
It's kind of basic, similar to W3schools.com in content, and gives a very basic example of CSS (I'm not finished with it).
DHTML (Dynamic HTML) is using HTML + CSS + Javascript/VBscript to build websites.
Anyway, good luck.
Oh, and W3schools is good for anything if you want to stay a beginner. For php/javascript, I advise buying a few books on it.
To use PHP, you'll have to install a server (probably apache) on your computer and make it support PHP, so you will be able to preview it, and you'll need PHP supportive hosting. Javascript and CSS don't need this though.
If you're looking for the advanced stuff, thats scripting/styling.
For scripting, I advise looking at PHP and Javascript.
PHP is a server side language, while Javascript is a Browser language. Together, if mastered, very powerful, although PHP/Javascript are practically the toughest website languages. Master that, and you can go on to programming.
Styling is done using CSS. CSS lets you set attributes to tags, such as make the background of a table column an image, or the background of text a certain color, or even changing colors of the scrollbar. Its powerful for looks, and is very easy to learn/use.
I made a small HTML tutorial here.
It's kind of basic, similar to W3schools.com in content, and gives a very basic example of CSS (I'm not finished with it).
DHTML (Dynamic HTML) is using HTML + CSS + Javascript/VBscript to build websites.
Anyway, good luck.
Oh, and W3schools is good for anything if you want to stay a beginner. For php/javascript, I advise buying a few books on it.
To use PHP, you'll have to install a server (probably apache) on your computer and make it support PHP, so you will be able to preview it, and you'll need PHP supportive hosting. Javascript and CSS don't need this though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lil_nemesis on 2005-12-31 at 10:32:58
I agree with you in that your tutorial is basic, but it also good for newbies. The only thing l didn't no on it was the embeded tag. Maybe next time you update your tutorial for newbies you should include this:
So then when a newbie makes a link to another site it opens in a new window and not the current window
. But l will take your advice, l want to fully master html before l move on and after l fully master html l will learn something like php or javascript 
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<a href="http://www.something.com" target="_blank">something</a>
So then when a newbie makes a link to another site it opens in a new window and not the current window
. But l will take your advice, l want to fully master html before l move on and after l fully master html l will learn something like php or javascript .Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-31 at 10:35:28
If you really want to master it, simply finish the W3schools tutorial and then read on every individual tag and try to use it. Nothing other then that.
I really doubt any tutorial will give you step by step instructions on each tag.
I really doubt any tutorial will give you step by step instructions on each tag.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lil_nemesis on 2005-12-31 at 10:46:43
Dam, maybe l should go down to the local library and see what books they got on html since l find it easier to read something in a book rather than on the web for some strange reason 
. But l might go back to www.w3schools.com and read all the information they have there closly.
. But l might go back to www.w3schools.com and read all the information they have there closly.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2005-12-31 at 10:55:05
QUOTE
DHTML (Dynamic HTML) is using HTML + CSS + Javascript/VBscript to build websites.
Actually, Dynamic HTML is it's own language, although DHTML and Javascript do relativley the same thing.
One of the best ways to learn HTML is to look at other people's code and see how it's done.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lil_nemesis on 2005-12-31 at 10:59:53
QUOTE(Shmeeps @ Dec 31 2005, 03:55 PM)
Actually, Dynamic HTML is it's own language, although DHTML and Javascript do relativley the same thing.
One of the best ways to learn HTML is to look at other people's code and see how it's done.
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One of the best ways to learn HTML is to look at other people's code and see how it's done.
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I actually have been doing and well it is a good way to learn but l find it hard to understand pages like www.ebay.com.au since they use javascript and php and css and well have hardly any html and also since l don't no javascript, php and css it all looks like a foriegn language to me. What l have been doing is finding simple basic sites and looking at the source code l then made a free website using tripod and well mucked around with the code to see what would happen.
I agree it is a good way to learn but you only come accross some of the tags and not all of them
.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-31 at 11:20:26
Actually, since PHP is serverside, you can't see it in the source code. The server interprets it, and then gives the browser the code in HTML/Javascript/CSS.
Oops. I read somewhere that its those 3 together >.<. Sorry 'bout that.
My website has a pretty easy source to understand... Not all of it, of course, but it shows you possible ways to use HTML and CSS together, javascript, etc.
As said before, PHP won't be shown, but I use it a bit
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http://www.darknessdragons.com
I advise opening in wordpad. Notepad can't always show all lines, so bottom might be 'torn off'. Its randomized, I opened it second time and it showed everything.
When I use the style= attribute, its CSS
Onmouseover/Onmouseout is Javascript for detecting when you mouse over.
QUOTE
Actually, Dynamic HTML is it's own language, although DHTML and Javascript do relativley the same thing.
Oops. I read somewhere that its those 3 together >.<. Sorry 'bout that.
My website has a pretty easy source to understand... Not all of it, of course, but it shows you possible ways to use HTML and CSS together, javascript, etc.
As said before, PHP won't be shown, but I use it a bit
.http://www.darknessdragons.com
I advise opening in wordpad. Notepad can't always show all lines, so bottom might be 'torn off'. Its randomized, I opened it second time and it showed everything.
When I use the style= attribute, its CSS
Onmouseover/Onmouseout is Javascript for detecting when you mouse over.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lil_nemesis on 2005-12-31 at 11:34:59
About what you said opening the source in notepad, well since l use firefox (this can be done in internet explorer to) l just view the source but unlike internet explorer the tags are colour coded which makes the source nice and easy to read/understand unlike when you open it in internet explorer and it is all the same colour . I shall have a look at the source for your website save the source on my hard drive and open it and muck around with it .
I'm still looking for any good html tutorials links, l have tried google numerous times and well didn't find many good sites, l am hoping that someone knows of one .
. I shall have a look at the source for your website save the source on my hard drive and open it and muck around with it . I'm still looking for any good html tutorials links, l have tried google numerous times and well didn't find many good sites, l am hoping that someone knows of one
.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2005-12-31 at 13:11:19
Still looking for a tutorial? Ok.
This one's good, but it has a few advertisements. This is how I learned HTML.
Click Me
Its made up of many chapters and minichapters. But, as I said, beyond this the best you can do is check W3schools tag list.
This one's good, but it has a few advertisements. This is how I learned HTML.
Click Me
Its made up of many chapters and minichapters. But, as I said, beyond this the best you can do is check W3schools tag list.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lil_nemesis on 2005-12-31 at 14:42:36
I briefly looked over it and from what l can see it was the sort of tutorial l was looking for. I will read over it more carefully when l'm not so tired . Thanks again
. Thanks again Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shadow_da_Sniper on 2005-12-31 at 16:55:23
Ok, here are some pretty good sites that help you with the source codes for all HTML, PHP, CSS, and what every else you need.
http://www.htmldog.com CSS and HTML! Good site! DHTML also.
http://www.phphelp.com follow link to the php.net area. It's great!
-The very best site IMO is HTML Goodies. This site features every website code you will ever need. ASP, DHTML, HTML, CSS, PHP, JavaScript, and lots more!
It also features newsletters and primers.
http://www.htmldog.com CSS and HTML! Good site! DHTML also.
http://www.phphelp.com follow link to the php.net area. It's great!
-The very best site IMO is HTML Goodies. This site features every website code you will ever need. ASP, DHTML, HTML, CSS, PHP, JavaScript, and lots more!
It also features newsletters and primers.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lil_nemesis on 2005-12-31 at 17:09:32
Thanks shadow, l think l have all the html tutorial pages l need. Thanks for your help
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