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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Goran on 2006-01-02 at 16:12:04
Anyone got this yet? Its amazing! I'm not done yet but almost and its one of the best if not the best games Ive ever played. Plenty of scares, heart pounding action, annihilating the baddies and more!!!!

Discuss~
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-02 at 16:35:48
Beat it. For the PS2, you don't even get the new damned weapons until you beat (I'm asssuming) Ada's unlockable campaign. The interactive cut-scenes was innovative, and the boss battles are extreme and tense, and the weapons are great. The enemy AI was amazing. They don't stand around and let you shoot them, they dance around and dodge so you miss your shots.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Freedawk on 2006-01-02 at 16:50:26
HorroR beat it in like 2 days...That is how much he was addicted to RE4. I think you shoulda rented it instead of buying it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-01-02 at 17:02:48
QUOTE(HorroR @ Jan 2 2006, 04:35 PM)
hey don't stand around and let you shoot them, they dance around and dodge so you miss your shots.
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Are you serious?
They're farking braindead old people. They don't do backflips and matrix dives to get out of your way. The AI isn't BAD but it's not good either, they just drone towards you in numbers, it's only a challenge because there's so many of them.

I like RE4, though I doubt i'll ever play it with the original weapons again because it was frustrating. Now I use IRL and Revolvers biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-02 at 17:56:50
I meant that as a compliment tongue.gif . And I just rushed through the game. I didn't look for extras.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-01-02 at 22:55:58
Riotgun for teh win, my favorite weapon through the whole game, had it at godly uprage status. Cheapest death to any enemy, sniping them in the face with sticky mines. w00t.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-01-02 at 23:36:57
I loved using the chicago typewriter after i beat the game and was rich enough to afford it. Besides that, the tmp all the way. I enjoyed the game and the story line truly kicked ass. It goes against past re games though. The only thing that stayed the same were some characters. (leon kennedy, ada wong, jack krauser, albert wesker, and agent hunk)

ADDITION:
However, i did not find this the scariest game ever. I think that title belongs to first encouter assault recon aka F.E.A.R.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-01-03 at 16:55:57
QUOTE(Mp)Marine @ Jan 2 2006, 11:36 PM)
I loved using the chicago typewriter after i beat the game and was rich enough to afford it. Besides that, the tmp all the way. I enjoyed the game and the story line truly kicked ass. It goes against past re games though. The only thing that stayed the same were some characters. (leon kennedy, ada wong, jack krauser, albert wesker, and agent hunk)

DUDE!
How do you get that outfit? I've been trying to figure it out but I still have no idea...
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However, i did not find this the scariest game ever. I think that title belongs to first encouter assault recon aka F.E.A.R.
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First time playing through the game it didn't appear scary at all. I was rushing through everything. I didn't take a moment and realize the scary music and dark tone. Now when I play it, it can only be for so long before I get paranoid...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-01-03 at 16:59:59
i was too paranoid to go to sleep the whole hospital stage. I have a deepseated fear of hospitals, let me die on the traintracks.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-01-03 at 17:14:32
Just bout the only thing that freaked me out was being in the building alone on the island when that guy rushes out of the heater on flames at you. I didn't expect that at all scared.gif
You get the costume once you beat the game and the typewriter (thompson) can be purchased for 1 million ptas once you beat it once. I have it on gc so idk if its different for the ps2 version.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-03 at 17:52:35
No...The Chicago Typewriter is unlocked when you beat Assignment Ada. And the new weapons are most likely unlocked after you beat Ada's Seperate Ways. The weapons unlocked after beating the game once are the Matilda and Infinite Launcher.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-01-03 at 19:54:41
QUOTE(HorroR @ Jan 3 2006, 05:52 PM)
No...The Chicago Typewriter is unlocked when you beat Assignment Ada. And the new weapons are most likely unlocked after you beat Ada's Seperate Ways. The weapons unlocked after beating the game once are the Matilda and Infinite Launcher.
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Thanks!
And I thought Chicago Typewriter wasn't avalible in GC Version....
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-03 at 20:23:05
Pfft...Good luck with AA. Ada is weak and takes more damage than Leon. Hell, 2 hits from the Chaingun Ganado (BJ) and Ada's dead.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2006-01-04 at 06:16:01
I owned it, beat it and bought the limited edition for the cube a while ago. However, I sold it when I realized it's not what RE was, a survival game.

RE4 throws tons of ammo at you and encourages you to blast every mofo like Power Rangers.

REs 0-3, or rather RE1, had you scrambling to figure out what is happening and advancing further into the game. While you COULD shoot zombies, that would be your LAST option. You were even told to dodge them, and I could see why, given ammo is rare. It was about solving clever puzzles and AVOIDING zombies, more than KILLING them. In REmake, dead zombies become crimson heads, which are twice as fast anyway.

You didn't fight because they seemed too powerful; while a few shots can down a Ganado in RE4, a downed zombie in RE will get back up, like nothing happened. You felt vulnerable in the old REs; that's what I missed.

Having tons of ammo makes the game feel like I'm slaughtering babies. It's an action game, not a survival one.

RE4 is praised by many, but I prefer RE. I also do commend Capcom for trying a change, instead of busting the sequels in games like Megaman, Street Fighter and Devil May Cry. While I don't like the change itself, Capcom gets props for changing an entire GENRE of a franchise, that's fleshed out, unlike Mario Party, etc.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-01-04 at 06:35:19
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I have to go soon so I skimmed your post and might respond again later. But capcom realized the series was getting repeative and dull. So they had to make a decison of changing the game, depending on how they changed it the game would shift in a different way. People complained a lot about the aiming system (It does suck) so they changed it, a lot. Which just made the game go to a more action themed game. Maybe if they added a medical healing kit like in MGS3 (Where if you get a deep cut or something you had to fix it yourself with stiches and bandages) it'd have more of a "survival" like feel.
But I sort of hated the the old RE games for the reasons you liked them, but I think it's safe to say more people like the new RE, then the old. I don't remeber any other REs getting game of the year...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2006-01-04 at 07:42:35
QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Jan 4 2006, 06:35 AM)
I have to go soon so I skimmed your post and might respond again later. But capcom realized the series was getting repeative and dull. So they had to make a decison of changing the game, depending on how they changed it the game would shift in a different way. People complained a lot about the aiming system (It does suck) so they changed it, a lot. Which just made the game go to a more action themed game. Maybe if they added a medical healing kit like in MGS3 (Where if you get a deep cut or something you had to fix it yourself with stiches and bandages) it'd have more of a "survival" like feel.
But I sort of hated the the old RE games for the reasons you liked them, but I think it's safe to say more people like the new RE, then the old. I don't remeber any other REs getting game of the year...
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All you had to push was the reply button. =/

Anyway, what I'm saying is that we have enough action packed, guns blazing games today. Look at Baldur's Gate, Gauntlet Legends, X-men Legends, Dynasty Warriors, Mystic Heroes, Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles, Phantasy Star or Diablo 2. Some games have more fleshed out item systems, but they retain the same gameplay: go around slashing stupid enemies to proceed.

It's a shame that RE has to enter this territory, because they were doing something different than the others. RE leans towards puzzle games like Myst, but the zombie element added a sense of fear and unexpectedness.

All I'm saying games like REs 0-3 were rare unlike the masses of action games we have today. To see another game go this way makes me sad as it's saying to Capcom that repetition is rewarded.

And how popular a game is doesn't change the qualities of the game itself. RE4 still is and always will be, "just another" mindless action game.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-01-04 at 14:04:58
I disagree revelade, RE 4 was full of puzzels, they may not have been the most challengeing. (Except that shifting the picture thing.) but they were enjoyable. Like fighting the two el gigante bosses and having to drop them in the lava. Ingenious. Near the beginning the killing of enemies may have been just mindless slautering, but I liked to put other elements in, like if I took any damage from Ganados I'd restart, this gave a more survival like feel. When you and backed away by Ganados into a building, you baracade the door, flip through the window and kill them all wiht an incidiary grenade it gives me a solved feeling I haven't gotten since I heard the chime in the fire temple in OoT.




Just be thankful that they DIDN'T use the devil may cry idea for RE 4.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-04 at 14:29:17
We should also be grateful they actually released RE 4. I hated the camera of the original REs, but thinking about it, with the behind-the-back camera for those, it'd be too easy because head shots always take out zombies.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-01-04 at 16:04:51
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Maybe not, but the qualities the game has, people seem to like.
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I disagree revelade, RE 4 was full of puzzels, they may not have been the most challengeing. (Except that shifting the picture thing.) but they were enjoyable. Like fighting the two el gigante bosses and having to drop them in the lava. Ingenious.

That's not a puzzle, that's a stratgey of beating a boss. You could just blast on the El Gigantes, that's not the only way to kill them you know. The only puzzles that come to mind was maybe, 1 puzzle with ashley when you made her stand of a switch and pushed a statue on another. That's about it, you can say the whole turning thing behind the church where you find ashely or the pictures, but those weren't challenging, at all. There were a lot of puzzles in Resident Evil Zero (As I remeber) but the puzzles wasn't annoying, it was the "action" sequences that seemed out of place. Any boss fight, was either really hard, or flat out frustrating. The bad aim didn't help either. In RE4, it's the oppisite, the puzzles seem sort of out of place, but not hard or frustrating.

The beginning of RE4 seems more survival like, although your not really trapped in that area, or fighting to survive, you only have a pistol (and a shotgun if you found it at beginning of game) which if you look at the game, those are the only two guns you'd get in the game if the store wasn't there. The store gave the whole "Gun everything down" feel. Also by the Island section of the game, you had machine guns, shotguns, revolvers, rocketlaunhcers, and grenades. Which really made it feel "Gun Stuff Down" like. Which was very relevant with the helicopter buddy mike biggrin.gif

But I can't complain about the result. Just don't think RE4 had puzzles or survival, it didn't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2006-01-04 at 21:06:42
http://www.staredit.net/index.php?showtopic=22259

the game is ok
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-01-04 at 21:08:28
@Golden Fist.

I believe I mentioned the puzzle where you have to find a tile then shift the tiles to make a picture? That's a hard puzzle.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-05 at 15:59:14
Yeah. Especially 45 seconds after Suits come after you.
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