Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-01-04 at 22:45:26
what would be the best example of microing (in any rts game) at its optimum?
my ex for sc:
1 marine and 2 medics vs 10 lings (controlled by comp XD)
there must be unwalkable terrain near by
1. u lure the lings to the unwalkable terrain
2. u surround your rine with the 2 meds, making the lings attack u either one by one or 2 by 2
3. pwn em all
yea it sucks but its still keeping my guy alive
my ex for sc:
1 marine and 2 medics vs 10 lings (controlled by comp XD)
there must be unwalkable terrain near by
1. u lure the lings to the unwalkable terrain
2. u surround your rine with the 2 meds, making the lings attack u either one by one or 2 by 2
3. pwn em all
yea it sucks but its still keeping my guy alive
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IceWarrior98 on 2006-01-04 at 22:52:25
first off i highly doubt ur guys would survive either way...10 lings pwn 1 marine, two meds would only slow the enivitable. Second off...im not quite sure what you mean by best ex of microing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2006-01-04 at 22:59:37
Well, if you are against computers, this would work nearly every time. Against players, they would eat the meds first.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-01-04 at 23:01:00
microing is controlling your units so that they survive and deal damage in an effective way
if you had a marine up against a high cliff and had 2 medics surrounding it to keep the rine from getting hit too much, dont u think one marine will pwn 10 lings?
if you had a marine up against a high cliff and had 2 medics surrounding it to keep the rine from getting hit too much, dont u think one marine will pwn 10 lings?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IceWarrior98 on 2006-01-04 at 23:05:08
QUOTE(no-0b @ Jan 4 2006, 11:01 PM)
microing is controlling your units so that they survive and deal damage in an effective way
if you had a marine up against a high cliff and had 2 medics surrounding it to keep the rine from getting hit too much, dont u think one marine will pwn 10 lings?
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if you had a marine up against a high cliff and had 2 medics surrounding it to keep the rine from getting hit too much, dont u think one marine will pwn 10 lings?
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10 lings...thats like 60 dmg/sec to anything, ur marine and meds would get pumbled!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-01-04 at 23:09:43
maybe u dont know leik teh fisix of starcraft
when ur attacking a comp, they go for the attacker first and then deal with the nonattacker(s)
when ur one marine is against a wall, the lings cant totally surround it
when 2 medics are against the marine, even less lings can surround the marine
get the picture?
when ur attacking a comp, they go for the attacker first and then deal with the nonattacker(s)
when ur one marine is against a wall, the lings cant totally surround it
when 2 medics are against the marine, even less lings can surround the marine
get the picture?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-04 at 23:58:29
let me explain it better ice warrior:
as you can see in the image the medics act as a wall for the marine.
in normal computer AI the priority is units that can attack, non attacking units are secondary.
so the zerglings will run around in circles while the marine attacks them
however in random suicide AI the zerglings will attack all units
get it now?
as you can see in the image the medics act as a wall for the marine.
in normal computer AI the priority is units that can attack, non attacking units are secondary.
so the zerglings will run around in circles while the marine attacks them
however in random suicide AI the zerglings will attack all units
get it now?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-01-05 at 00:01:42
ty sie for clearing that up, and may all n00bs who still do not understand burn in hell for all eternity 
now post your micro!!!
now post your micro!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-05 at 00:42:19
u get 2 hydra's and 1 defiler vs 6 zealots, all perfectly clear and walkable terrain, and your defiler can use plague and dark swarm. you use plague on the zlots
and have the hydras attackg 1 of them and just keep using a hit and run technique.
and have the hydras attackg 1 of them and just keep using a hit and run technique.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-05 at 00:52:26
there are thousands of combinations for microing. it mainly depends on these factors:
races
enemy
environment
units
i play impossible scen, block the gate, etc.
im a micro manage master
sounds like im bragging.....
you cannot simply post a strategy and expect people with no training or knowledge to duplicate it. they must understand concussion and explosive damages as well as unit AI range etc.
races
enemy
environment
units
i play impossible scen, block the gate, etc.
im a micro manage master
sounds like im bragging.....you cannot simply post a strategy and expect people with no training or knowledge to duplicate it. they must understand concussion and explosive damages as well as unit AI range etc.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Minority on 2006-01-05 at 01:11:22
My ex:
The Attack-Move command.
No, really:
I have won SO many 3v1 Melee games using 1 Arbiter (w. stasis), 2 Carriers and 1 Observer. You place the Carriers just outside the range of the AI's static defence, but just within your Arbiter's cloaking field, and slowly plough through their base, using stasis if they get too much for you. I've also found it useful to have an Arbiter inside your base to Recall them if they get badly damaged.
The Attack-Move command.
No, really:
I have won SO many 3v1 Melee games using 1 Arbiter (w. stasis), 2 Carriers and 1 Observer. You place the Carriers just outside the range of the AI's static defence, but just within your Arbiter's cloaking field, and slowly plough through their base, using stasis if they get too much for you. I've also found it useful to have an Arbiter inside your base to Recall them if they get badly damaged.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-05 at 01:15:12
QUOTE(Minority @ Jan 5 2006, 06:11 AM)
My ex:
The Attack-Move command.
No, really:
I have won SO many 3v1 Melee games using 1 Arbiter (w. stasis), 2 Carriers and 1 Observer. You place the Carriers just outside the range of the AI's static defence, but just within your Arbiter's cloaking field, and slowly plough through their base, using stasis if they get too much for you. I've also found it useful to have an Arbiter inside your base to Recall them if they get badly damaged.
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The Attack-Move command.
No, really:
I have won SO many 3v1 Melee games using 1 Arbiter (w. stasis), 2 Carriers and 1 Observer. You place the Carriers just outside the range of the AI's static defence, but just within your Arbiter's cloaking field, and slowly plough through their base, using stasis if they get too much for you. I've also found it useful to have an Arbiter inside your base to Recall them if they get badly damaged.
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you probably lost more then you won, it takes too long to get carriers, dragoon/zlot/high temp/dt combo is much more effective.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Minority on 2006-01-05 at 01:26:22
Actually, I won more than I lost. I harassed them constantly with Zealots, and then with Dragoon/HT combo (I would have a DT at their choke points, and send out a HT with a few Dragoons to intercept them (the AI will ALWAYS pull back their forces when even one unit is killed before they reach their destination)). I would send my little force when in it was ready.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-05 at 03:24:40
we are talking about computers here.... they can be pretty dumb at times
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-05 at 04:11:35
QUOTE(Minority @ Jan 5 2006, 06:26 AM)
Actually, I won more than I lost. I harassed them constantly with Zealots, and then with Dragoon/HT combo (I would have a DT at their choke points, and send out a HT with a few Dragoons to intercept them (the AI will ALWAYS pull back their forces when even one unit is killed before they reach their destination)). I would send my little force when in it was ready.
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that makes more sense, but with all your strategy coming togeather , it seems you must have problems with PSI?
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Jan 5 2006, 08:24 AM)
we are talking about computers here.... they can be pretty dumb at times
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computers are always dumb, if you play a melee against a computer, they will rush you, and if it doesnt work(that 10% of those nubs out there that lose to 1 comp, also no offense to anyone =\) they're screwed, once you attack and u hit their base its over. u'll maul the heck out of them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-01-05 at 06:54:57
My favorite thing to do is get a fast unit (like a Zergling), run past a Spider Mine and drag it near enemy forces and then let it kill me. (And some of their force. 
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)Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-01-05 at 18:38:30
Sweetest micro skills:
Have a zergling at the top of a flight of stairs, have a reaver at the bottom. Run the zergling back and forth from the top of the wall to the nook where the staris meet the wall. The reaver will fire at the nook, and the scarabs aren't smart enough to follow the ling up the stairs. Reaver runs out of ammo, zergling runs up and kills reaver. All because of micro.
Have a zergling at the top of a flight of stairs, have a reaver at the bottom. Run the zergling back and forth from the top of the wall to the nook where the staris meet the wall. The reaver will fire at the nook, and the scarabs aren't smart enough to follow the ling up the stairs. Reaver runs out of ammo, zergling runs up and kills reaver. All because of micro.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-05 at 18:44:27
heres a good one for pvp.
lay a mine field and lure units onto mine field.
since some units have fast reactions and range they will kill the spider mines right?
to overcome this you ally them while they are on top of the mine field unally mines pop out from under.... BOOM
lay a mine field and lure units onto mine field.
since some units have fast reactions and range they will kill the spider mines right?
to overcome this you ally them while they are on top of the mine field unally mines pop out from under.... BOOM
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-01-05 at 19:00:45
If you want to show off, do this:
1 Dragoon (you, no upgrades)
20 Zerglings (comp, no upgrades)
1 Dragoon (you, no upgrades)
20 Zerglings (comp, no upgrades)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Do-0dan on 2006-01-05 at 19:03:07
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Jan 5 2006, 06:00 PM)
If you want to show off, do this:
1 Dragoon (you, no upgrades)
20 Zerglings (comp, no upgrades)
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1 Dragoon (you, no upgrades)
20 Zerglings (comp, no upgrades)
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impossible unless ur playin a comp or uber n00b
i gotta try that reaver-ling thing :0
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-01-05 at 19:59:33
QUOTE(CheeZe @ Jan 5 2006, 06:00 PM)
If you want to show off, do this:
1 Dragoon (you, no upgrades)
20 Zerglings (comp, no upgrades)
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1 Dragoon (you, no upgrades)
20 Zerglings (comp, no upgrades)
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Silly no-0b...
Rantent, you better hope that they don't rebuild Scarabs while you're doing that. Otherwise you'll be there for a while.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Minority on 2006-01-06 at 00:47:13
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Jan 6 2006, 10:14 AM)
heres a good one for pvp.
lay a mine field and lure units onto mine field.
since some units have fast reactions and range they will kill the spider mines right?
to overcome this you ally them while they are on top of the mine field unally mines pop out from under.... BOOM
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lay a mine field and lure units onto mine field.
since some units have fast reactions and range they will kill the spider mines right?
to overcome this you ally them while they are on top of the mine field unally mines pop out from under.... BOOM
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That's just a cheese strategy. It's called "Allied Mine."
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-06 at 01:13:25
whatever. microing is using your units to thier upmost potential. wheres your brilliant strategy?