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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-01-26 at 16:22:29
Is there such things as the Pure Act of Evil, and the Pure Act of Good? Why has been our race given something called feelings, and is human nature evil or good? Give your opinions here, and reasons.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-26 at 16:25:27
I don't think there can ever be a Pure Act of Evil/Good. Well for one, there is outside influence, placing the Pure Act out of the question since it wasn't on your will, but something someone else to do.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-26 at 16:25:58
No. There is no good and evil, and I'm sick of hearing the words "good and evil." Some stupid farking cliché about the blah blah and the bad and the good and the struggle and whatnot doesn't need anymore farking face time. "Good" and "evil" are subjective. There is nothing objective about it. They're infinitely more subjective than one person with a stab wound and another with a paper cut.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-01-26 at 16:28:23
I woulda've put this into the serious discussions, but I am banned there, and plus if you keep this up, you'd probably get banned too. I don't want your biase here.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-26 at 16:30:01
Then why are you asking for opinions?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-01-26 at 16:30:32
because opinions can be expressed without any biases.
and horrors got a point, however... if the person was not evil... why would anyone kill somebody else out of order.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-26 at 16:31:06
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because opinions can be expressed without any biases.

Try again.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-01-26 at 16:54:58
not really, you're the only one who can't see what to type in or not, you coulda've said it in a different manner, you're just tactless.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-01-26 at 17:41:25
I think I realized something... Wait, that's a flame and I sure don't want to be warned more than my 60%. But there really is nothing good and nothing evil. Good might be your opinion, or should I say bias, on something you like. And evil might be your bias on what you don't like. And if someone does something that you like or don't like, you end up having an opinion of them and what they do. It's not evil or good, it's just actions.

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-01-26 at 17:49:58
QUOTE(HorroR @ Jan 26 2006, 04:25 PM)
I don't think there can ever be a Pure Act of Evil/Good. Well for one, there is outside influence, placing the Pure Act out of the question since it wasn't on your will, but something someone else to do.
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Something good = Throwing yourself infront of a bus to save someone you've never met.

Something evil = Throwign someone you've never met into a bus.

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Don't memberate.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-01-26 at 18:04:32
QUOTE(Syphona @ Jan 26 2006, 05:49 PM)
Something good = Throwing yourself infront of a bus to save someone you've never met.

Something evil = Throwign someone you've never met into a bus.
Don't memberate.
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Don't quoterate

And... Why do you say that those things are evil? What if it was Osama B. you were thrwoing infront of a bus? No no no... That would still be "Evil" oh wait! it's against the law to murder someone, so is that what you're basing your evil crap on. Okay, hypothetical question here... Let's say I never knew Osama B. What if I seen him going to get run over by a bus and I push him out of the way to only have my self squashed worse than your Good/Evil idea... Am I good for saving a life, or evil for saving someone who has killed a crapload of people?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-01-26 at 18:13:29
As stated before, there is no good or evil. There is only power, and those too afraid to use it. [/sarcasm]

Anyway, I believe there is no good or evil. Good or evil are simply ways to describe actions based on how much it helps/hurts others.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-01-26 at 18:15:55
The ultimate evil would be an intentional murder, and even worse, making someone more miserable when you know that person is as miserable right now, and you intend to make him more miserable.

Something good, self-sacrifice, sacrificing yourself to save another, "Throwing yourself into the bus while you throw someone out of the bus way.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-01-26 at 18:25:45
That seems really similar to the laws of the government...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-26 at 18:43:50
good and evil are in the eye of the beholder. for example in the civil war each side thinks that they other side was bad. when in fact both sides had noble causes but the winner of the war writes history not the defeated.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Syphon on 2006-01-26 at 18:48:51
QUOTE(`BiG~kAhOoNa` @ Jan 26 2006, 06:04 PM)
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And...  Why do you say that those things are evil?  What if it was Osama B. you were thrwoing infront of a bus?  No no no...  That would still be "Evil" oh wait!  it's against the law to murder someone, so is that what you're basing your evil crap on.  Okay, hypothetical question here...  Let's say I never knew Osama B.  What if I seen him going to get run over by a bus and I push him out of the way to only have my self squashed worse than your Good/Evil idea...  Am I good for saving a life, or evil for saving someone who has killed a crapload of people?[/center]

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Good for saving a life. So lnog as he stops his malicious ways.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-01-26 at 18:52:46
But what if that person who died commited those acts in belief that he was doing good?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-26 at 19:16:42
QUOTE(Lithium @ Jan 26 2006, 02:54 PM)
not really, you're the only one who can't see what to type in or not, you coulda've said it in a different manner, you're just tactless.
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You're different (You heard me)

Opinions are always biased, my friend. How are they opinions if they are not?!

And there is no good nor evil. They are perceptions of the human mind.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2006-01-26 at 20:33:16
QUOTE(Kellimus @ Jan 26 2006, 07:16 PM)
You're different (You heard me)

Opinions are always biased, my friend.  How are they opinions if they are not?!

And there is no good nor evil.  They are perceptions of the human mind.
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A year ago, I would have argued against you.

But yes, good and evil are relative because they change according to the perspective of the individual. For instance, we might consider cannibalism to be archaic, but certain islanders still practice it today. It all depends from where you look at a topic. There is more angles than one.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-01-26 at 23:52:05
I'd use the term "Evil" as doing an act that would make you feel guilty, or when somebody is against it, and is innocent, and is defenseless, you however "murder, mug, steal, lie, rape", that I would consider evil.

Good, I would consider good whom respects something or somewhat in everyway,
bad and good, there would be a difference, "bad" is morally unright, and "good" is morally right, in human views.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-27 at 15:57:34
QUOTE(Lithium @ Jan 26 2006, 09:52 PM)
I'd use the term "Evil" as doing an act that would make you feel guilty, or when somebody is against it, and is innocent, and is defenseless, you however "murder, mug, steal, lie, rape", that I would consider evil.

Good, I would consider good whom respects something or somewhat in everyway,
bad and good, there would be a difference, "bad" is morally unright, and "good" is morally right, in human views.
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With your logic, i'm "evil" because I made fun of someone and felt guilty for it.

And with your logic, I'm "good" because I respect Hitler, not his ideas.

Yeah. Whatever.

It's all a perception, and this thread is a waste of time.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-01-27 at 18:20:09
yeah, i didnt think hitler was evil. I thought he was reverable.
what part of "morally right and wrong" in human views didnt you understand?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-27 at 18:22:32
What part of "good and evil are completely subjective" did you not understand?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lithium on 2006-01-27 at 18:36:55
non, and they are not completely subjective. ok, how about abusing other people for your own greed?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-27 at 18:39:22
There is no universally accepted definition of "abuse." BDSM, for example, incorporates what could be considered abuse by some. To its practicioners, it's a sexual outlet.

You're panning for gold in a coal mine.
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