Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-27 at 03:53:03
http://spikedhumor.com/articles/2910/Bush_Being_Bush.html
What an idiot.. Seriously... Do you see how he evades the question? What kind of president does that? Can you see how slow he is? *Shakes head*
Ignorance.
What an idiot.. Seriously... Do you see how he evades the question? What kind of president does that? Can you see how slow he is? *Shakes head*
Ignorance.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HorroR on 2006-01-27 at 13:13:23
Damn, accidentally voted yes. Well, I hate the fact that he still kept the troops in Iraq, and letting them get killed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-27 at 15:04:50
this is like the 10th topic on the same question. i would like to see that british show though it looks entertaining.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-01-27 at 16:02:31
QUOTE(HorroR @ Jan 27 2006, 12:13 PM)
Damn, accidentally voted yes. Well, I hate the fact that he still kept the troops in Iraq, and letting them get killed.
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I think John Kerry also said that if he were the president, he also would've kept the troops in Iraq (but maybe for a different purpose.) I remember hearing about this on CNN some weeks ago...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Merrell on 2006-01-27 at 16:09:05
Another anti-Bush thread.. ah.. just wait 2.5 more years until the next election 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-27 at 16:09:31
It's true. I heard it, also.
But I believe that Kerry would have started removing them LONG before Bush ever dreams of..
My own opinion though.
But I believe that Kerry would have started removing them LONG before Bush ever dreams of..
My own opinion though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-01-27 at 16:32:37
QUOTE(HorroR @ Jan 27 2006, 01:13 PM)
Damn, accidentally voted yes. Well, I hate the fact that he still kept the troops in Iraq, and letting them get killed.
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If we pull out without completing our purpose (Whatever it may be...), those lives will ve lost for nothing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-27 at 16:35:00
They already are lost for nothing.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-01-27 at 16:57:01
QUOTE(Kow @ Jan 27 2006, 04:32 PM)
If we pull out without completing our purpose (Whatever it may be...), those lives will be lost for nothing.
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I grow weary of this flimsy argument.You can't tell that they've been lost for nothing already?
The U.S. presence in Iraq is doing little, aside from helping to train a new generation of skilled Muslim soldiers. "Democratic" elections to install a disposable leader mean little in a land that has an 8,000 year history of violence. Thing is, it really doesn't matter either way.
The minute we leave Iraq, it will be on the road to becoming a theocracy. Notice the Shi'ite majority in Iraq (about 60%). Now, also take notice of the much larger Shi'ite majority in Iran (95%), which is already a theocracy. Finally, look at the geographical situation: Iraq shares a 700 mile border with Iran. You can bet that there are Iranian operatives going to "persuade" certain people..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-01-27 at 17:07:12
So you're saying that the president sucks because he doesn't think lightning fast (After giving around 8 speeches a day for the past 6 years or so) and because people are in Iraq when they shouldn't be.
As you can see I already pointed out the speech thing, someone gives hundreads of speechs a month and gets asked a lot of question, obviously he won't react to what is asked quickly. As for Iraq, there's something I've realized over a few years which is FIGHTING COUNTRIES IS WHAT THE ARMY DOES. You don't sign up for the army and get paid to work out and get yelled at by some 40 year old sargent. Maybe the Iraqi War doesn't have as good as a reason to stay in Iraq as other wars, but there's still some things we need to clean up in Iraq, we can't just leave it half finished. Otherwise all the efforts we put in would be a waste. I think we're in Iraq for oil, and since we were going to bomb the shiz out of them anyway we might as well get some oil (However if you asked my a few years ago I would've said differently). What I don't get is why a lot of people are saying to pull out of Iraq and go into the whole Darfur incident. At least with the Iraqi war we're actually getting something.
As you can see I already pointed out the speech thing, someone gives hundreads of speechs a month and gets asked a lot of question, obviously he won't react to what is asked quickly. As for Iraq, there's something I've realized over a few years which is FIGHTING COUNTRIES IS WHAT THE ARMY DOES. You don't sign up for the army and get paid to work out and get yelled at by some 40 year old sargent. Maybe the Iraqi War doesn't have as good as a reason to stay in Iraq as other wars, but there's still some things we need to clean up in Iraq, we can't just leave it half finished. Otherwise all the efforts we put in would be a waste. I think we're in Iraq for oil, and since we were going to bomb the shiz out of them anyway we might as well get some oil (However if you asked my a few years ago I would've said differently). What I don't get is why a lot of people are saying to pull out of Iraq and go into the whole Darfur incident. At least with the Iraqi war we're actually getting something.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-27 at 17:54:15
the president should be quick because he has had all the experience from other speeches. the question they asked was a very simple one but he could not answer. this suggests that hes too egotistical to recognise his mistakes and thus leading us into a deeper hole since he wont fix those mistakes.
fighting other countries isnt what the army is made to do. its made to DEFEND OUR COUNTRY.
the iraqi people will do just as good as us by setting up thier own government. if its by the local population and not by a superpower that invaded thier country for no apparent reason the rate of rebels will go down.
i agree that we should of kept our troops in while the government is being stablised that should of been at most a year. but right now people from america are doing more jobs than the iraqis themselves.
fighting other countries isnt what the army is made to do. its made to DEFEND OUR COUNTRY.
the iraqi people will do just as good as us by setting up thier own government. if its by the local population and not by a superpower that invaded thier country for no apparent reason the rate of rebels will go down.
i agree that we should of kept our troops in while the government is being stablised that should of been at most a year. but right now people from america are doing more jobs than the iraqis themselves.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-01-28 at 08:39:17
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Jan 27 2006, 05:54 PM)
fighting other countries isnt what the army is made to do. its made to DEFEND OUR COUNTRY.
You seem to forget why we were in the Middle East in the first place, it's because we suspected Osama Bin Laden was in the Middle East so we decided to bomb the shiz out of it to find him. Then we stayed a little longer. I could say that what they're doing now is defending our country from future 9/11s but that's obviously not the main reason why we're there.
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the iraqi people will do just as good as us by setting up thier own government. if its by the local population and not by a superpower that invaded thier country for no apparent reason the rate of rebels will go down.
Yeah because Sadam Hussain was such a great leader before. You DO know that he'd still be in power in Iraq if America hadn't invaded? And we all know he hates america.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-28 at 14:32:00
QUOTE(Golden-Fist @ Jan 28 2006, 06:39 AM)
You seem to forget why we were in the Middle East in the first place, it's because we suspected Osama Bin Laden was in the Middle East so we decided to bomb the shiz out of it to find him. Then we stayed a little longer. I could say that what they're doing now is defending our country from future 9/11s but that's obviously not the main reason why we're there.
Yeah because Sadam Hussain was such a great leader before. You DO know that he'd still be in power in Iraq if America hadn't invaded? And we all know he hates america.
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Yeah because Sadam Hussain was such a great leader before. You DO know that he'd still be in power in Iraq if America hadn't invaded? And we all know he hates america.
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So just because we assumed that Osama was in the middle east, that gives us the right to invade Afghanistan, and turn it into a "Democracy"? That also gives us the right to bomb "the shiz" out of them, too? How are we defending our country by going and invading non-hostile countries? That would only create hostility towards us -_-
And you DO know why he hates us, yes? All because of Bush's father. And guess what? This was a pathetic attempt that worked (Only because of the coalition we USED to have) by Bush to finish what his da-da couldn't.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-01-28 at 19:48:24
im not part of your country but i still voted no. ive heard he was eavesdropping the telephone lines in america.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-28 at 20:56:46
Yup. He now has the right to wiretap phones, keep records of library books we check out, illegaly search and sieze someone, Ilegally SPY on someone, and is able to declare war in "The name of fighting terrorism"
"We are fighting the war on Terrorism"
"We are fighting the war on Terror"
Well Mr. Presidante bushido, which is it? They are not teh same thing...
He can do this all, because of: The Patriot Act.
NOTE: When Mr. "TheDaddy" comes in here, he ish full of poo
EDIT: Dictionary books? Where the fark did I come up with that? *Smacks head* Gawd i'm a retard.
"We are fighting the war on Terrorism"
"We are fighting the war on Terror"
Well Mr. Presidante bushido, which is it? They are not teh same thing...
He can do this all, because of: The Patriot Act.
NOTE: When Mr. "TheDaddy" comes in here, he ish full of poo
EDIT: Dictionary books? Where the fark did I come up with that? *Smacks head* Gawd i'm a retard.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2006-01-28 at 21:35:36
I won't lie by saying I like the man, but he sure as hell beat Kerry.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-01-29 at 00:21:54
I like bush, makes me feel like I could be pres.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Detestable_Evil on 2006-01-29 at 00:40:37
We are fighting the war on Terror, as Bush said, as Kellimus said.
If your fighting the war on terror, then what are you doing to some of the people in the middle east?
You (Bush) can't truly fight the war on terrorism AND the war on terror and win them both. They'd end a tie. How? You kill off all terrorist leaders (Only to maybe have more to come through hatred.) and you then must put a projectile through your head.
If your fighting the war on terror, then what are you doing to some of the people in the middle east?
You (Bush) can't truly fight the war on terrorism AND the war on terror and win them both. They'd end a tie. How? You kill off all terrorist leaders (Only to maybe have more to come through hatred.) and you then must put a projectile through your head.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-29 at 00:56:29
We aren't fighting the war on Teroor, it's the war on terrorism!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Carlsagan43 on 2006-01-29 at 01:18:56
Bush Rocks. GOGO COMMANDER-In-Chief!!!!
Seriously, do all you eer do is look for way to drag him down? And if you are, what exactly are you hoping to accomplish?
Gay Marriage = Wrong
Abortion = Wrong
Terrorism = Wrong
Corrupt Middle Eastern Dictators = Wrong
He fought against all of them, and he didn't even worry about public image. What kind of person would appeal to the minds of the american people at the cost of americas safety? Not Bush. He cares about americas safety first, and he is doing everything in his power to keep america safe.
Seriously, do all you eer do is look for way to drag him down? And if you are, what exactly are you hoping to accomplish?
QUOTE(Headline News)
President Bush Impeached and removed from office, based on the ramblings of a small starcraft forum!! Details to come.
Gay Marriage = Wrong
Abortion = Wrong
Terrorism = Wrong
Corrupt Middle Eastern Dictators = Wrong
He fought against all of them, and he didn't even worry about public image. What kind of person would appeal to the minds of the american people at the cost of americas safety? Not Bush. He cares about americas safety first, and he is doing everything in his power to keep america safe.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Septhiroth on 2006-01-29 at 02:07:48
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Corrupt Middle Eastern Dictators = Wrong
Yessss, partically true but what did was his MAIN purpose he told to the public that he was attacking Iraq. To find WOMD that he thought Iraq had. But they didn't now did they? What did he sacraficed for that? Billions of dollars for Shipping and maganging his troops in Iraq and lost of lives that include, Iraqi's, British, American and other's (Korean, Japanese, Italian...etc..).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-01-29 at 02:33:13
Corrupt Western Dictators(Bush) = Wrong
Taking away rights = Wrong
Letting people die for an assumtion = Wrong
Invading Countries for natural resources = Wrong
No child left behind = Wrong
And the list goes on and on. my question is why isnt bush in the little crib with saddam?
Taking away rights = Wrong
Letting people die for an assumtion = Wrong
Invading Countries for natural resources = Wrong
No child left behind = Wrong
And the list goes on and on. my question is why isnt bush in the little crib with saddam?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-01-29 at 03:43:50
QUOTE(carlsagan43 @ Jan 28 2006, 11:18 PM)
Bush Rocks. GOGO COMMANDER-In-Chief!!!!
Seriously, do all you eer do is look for way to drag him down? And if you are, what exactly are you hoping to accomplish?
Gay Marriage = Wrong
Abortion = Wrong
Terrorism = Wrong
Corrupt Middle Eastern Dictators = Wrong
He fought against all of them, and he didn't even worry about public image. What kind of person would appeal to the minds of the american people at the cost of americas safety? Not Bush. He cares about americas safety first, and he is doing everything in his power to keep america safe.
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Seriously, do all you eer do is look for way to drag him down? And if you are, what exactly are you hoping to accomplish?
QUOTE(Headline News)
President Bush Impeached and removed from office, based on the ramblings of a small starcraft forum!! Details to come.
Gay Marriage = Wrong
Abortion = Wrong
Terrorism = Wrong
Corrupt Middle Eastern Dictators = Wrong
He fought against all of them, and he didn't even worry about public image. What kind of person would appeal to the minds of the american people at the cost of americas safety? Not Bush. He cares about americas safety first, and he is doing everything in his power to keep america safe.
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Read below:
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Jan 29 2006, 12:33 AM)
Corrupt Western Dictators(Bush) = Wrong
Taking away rights = Wrong
Letting people die for an assumtion = Wrong
Invading Countries for natural resources = Wrong
No child left behind = Wrong
And the list goes on and on. my question is why isnt bush in the little crib with saddam?
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Taking away rights = Wrong
Letting people die for an assumtion = Wrong
Invading Countries for natural resources = Wrong
No child left behind = Wrong
And the list goes on and on. my question is why isnt bush in the little crib with saddam?
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Sorry Carl. You have been pwnt.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Carlsagan43 on 2006-01-29 at 22:35:10
QUOTE(Sie_Sayoka @ Jan 29 2006, 02:33 AM)
Corrupt Western Dictators(Bush) = Wrong
Taking away rights = Wrong
Letting people die for an assumtion = Wrong
Invading Countries for natural resources = Wrong
No child left behind = Wrong
And the list goes on and on. my question is why isnt bush in the little crib with saddam?
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Taking away rights = Wrong
Letting people die for an assumtion = Wrong
Invading Countries for natural resources = Wrong
No child left behind = Wrong
And the list goes on and on. my question is why isnt bush in the little crib with saddam?
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Bush is not a dictator. He is a president. Thats how it works in america. You see, we elect who we want to control the country for four years. Dictators, are NOT (i put the emphesis on not so that you could better understand) elected. They can't easily be put out of office. (thats because they aren't revoted in every 4 years)
Taking Away Rights - Yeah, like what? You think they are tapping your line? How in hell could they possibly tap a hundred million phonecalls everyday and filter them. You're losing rights for them to look at what books you check out? You say there is something wrong with them looking at what you read? Well here's something for you to chew on. Do you have an email address? (say yahoo, or gmail, or hotmail?) do you have some sort of anti-spam program running? Well all of those scan every email that you get an scan its content. And even in the cases or gmail, yahoo, and hotmail, they actually Advertise to you based on what you are reading, and log everything that that you have read. (ever notice how gmail doesnt want you to throw anything away?)
He didn;t let people die on an assumption. Saddam had SCUD missiles, which he wasnt supposed to have. That vindicatas the whole war since Saddam DID in fact have WMDs. Oh yeah, and all this too:
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UNSCR 678 - November 29, 1990
* Iraq must comply fully with UNSCR 660 (regarding Iraq's illegal invasion of Kuwait) "and all subsequent relevant resolutions."
* Authorizes UN Member States "to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area."
UNSCR 686 - March 2, 1991
* Iraq must release prisoners detained during the Gulf War.
* Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
* Iraq must accept liability under international law for damages from its illegal invasion of Kuwait.
UNSCR 687 - April 3, 1991
* Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "chemical and biological weapons and all stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all research, development, support and manufacturing facilities."
* Iraq must "unconditionally agree not to acquire or develop nuclear weapons or nuclear-weapons-usable material" or any research, development or manufacturing facilities.
* Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 KM and related major parts and repair and production facilities."
* Iraq must not "use, develop, construct or acquire" any weapons of mass destruction.
* Iraq must reaffirm its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
* Creates the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) to verify the elimination of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons programs and mandated that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) verify elimination of Iraq's nuclear weapons program.
* Iraq must declare fully its weapons of mass destruction programs.
* Iraq must not commit or support terrorism, or allow terrorist organizations to operate in Iraq.
* Iraq must cooperate in accounting for the missing and dead Kuwaitis and others.
* Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
UNSCR 688 - April 5, 1991
* "Condemns" repression of Iraqi civilian population, "the consequences of which threaten international peace and security."
* Iraq must immediately end repression of its civilian population.
* Iraq must allow immediate access to international humanitarian organizations to those in need of assistance.
UNSCR 707 - August 15, 1991
* "Condemns" Iraq's "serious violation" of UNSCR 687.
* "Further condemns" Iraq's noncompliance with IAEA and its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
* Iraq must halt nuclear activities of all kinds until the Security Council deems Iraq in full compliance.
* Iraq must make a full, final and complete disclosure of all aspects of its weapons of mass destruction and missile programs.
* Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must cease attempts to conceal or move weapons of mass destruction, and related materials and facilities.
* Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors to conduct inspection flights throughout Iraq.
* Iraq must provide transportation, medical and logistical support for UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 715 - October 11, 1991
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 949 - October 15, 1994
* "Condemns" Iraq's recent military deployments toward Kuwait.
* Iraq must not utilize its military or other forces in a hostile manner to threaten its neighbors or UN operations in Iraq.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors.
* Iraq must not enhance its military capability in southern Iraq.
UNSCR 1051 - March 27, 1996
* Iraq must report shipments of dual-use items related to weapons of mass destruction to the UN and IAEA.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1060 - June 12, 1996
* "Deplores" Iraq's refusal to allow access to UN inspectors and Iraq's "clear violations" of previous UN resolutions.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1115 - June 21, 1997
* "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "clear and flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
UNSCR 1134 - October 23, 1997
* "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
UNSCR 1137 - November 12, 1997
* "Condemns the continued violations by Iraq" of previous UN resolutions, including its "implicit threat to the safety of" aircraft operated by UN inspectors and its tampering with UN inspector monitoring equipment.
* Reaffirms Iraq's responsibility to ensure the safety of UN inspectors.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1154 - March 2, 1998
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access, and notes that any violation would have the "severest consequences for Iraq."
UNSCR 1194 - September 9, 1998
* "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 5 August 1998 to suspend cooperation with" UN and IAEA inspectors, which constitutes "a totally unacceptable contravention" of its obligations under UNSCR 687, 707, 715, 1060, 1115, and 1154.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors, and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1205 - November 5, 1998
* "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 31 October 1998 to cease cooperation" with UN inspectors as "a flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687 and other resolutions.
* Iraq must provide "immediate, complete and unconditional cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 1284 - December 17, 1999
* Created the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspections Commission (UNMOVIC) to replace previous weapon inspection team (UNSCOM).
* Iraq must allow UNMOVIC "immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access" to Iraqi officials and facilities.
* Iraq must fulfill its commitment to return Gulf War prisoners.
* Calls on Iraq to distribute humanitarian goods and medical supplies to its people and address the needs of vulnerable Iraqis without discrimination.
Additional UN Security Council Statements
In addition to the legally binding UNSCRs, the UN Security Council has also issued at least 30 statements from the President of the UN Security Council regarding Saddam Hussein's continued violations of UNSCRs. The list of statements includes:
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 28, 1991
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 5, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 19, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 28, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 6, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 11, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 12, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, April 10, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 17, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, July 6, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, September 2, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 23, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 24, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 8, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 11, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 18, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 28, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 23, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, October 8, 1994
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 19, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 14, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, August 23, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 30, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 13, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, October 29, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 13, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 3, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 22, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 14, 1998
He Violated every one of those UN resolutions. So in light of that they passed this:
UNSCR 1441 - November 8, 2002
Found that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its disarmament obligations.
Gave Iraq a final opportunity to comply.
Demanded that Iraq submit a currently accurate, full and complete declaration of its weapons of mass destruction and related programs within 30 days.
Demanded that Iraq cooperate immediately, unconditionally and actively with the UN inspections.
Decided that false statements or omissions in Iraq's declarations and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with and cooperate fully in the implementation of this resolution would constitute further material breach.
Recalls that the Security Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations.
Which guess what, he again did not follow. What else were we supposed to do about it? Obviously this was not working. Eventually you gotta come down with an Iron fist.
Lets move on, shall we? Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11, okay he may not have, but the Iraqi government sure helped out the people who planned it, and last time I checked, Saddam was at the helm of the Iraq govt then.
Do you know who Ahmed Hikmat Shakir is? He was an Iaqi Intelligence operative who took care of a 9/11 hijacker in Malaysia and was in attendance at the Kuala Lampur meeting with two of the hijackers, and other conspirators, at what is believed to be the initial 9/11 planning session in January 2000
Mohammed Atta and Saddam met in the Czech in 2000. This has not been denied by the Czech govt.
Abu Musab Zarqawi went to Iraq in 2001 after being injured in a battle with US forces.
Ayman Zawahiri was living in Iraq, from as far back as 1992 and sometime in the late 90's received a lot of money from Saddam.
How about Abdul Rahman Yasin, yeah the 1993 World Trade Center guy, he was granted sanctuary in Iraq from 1993 on.
Saddam even labeled Osamma as an Arab and Islamic hero after the embassy bombings in 1998.
Salman Pak… which was an Iraqi run terrorist camp where you could learn many tactics, including Hijacking…
George Tenet's letter to congress in 2002 that said "Our understanding of the relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda is evolving and is based on sources of varying reliability. Some of the information we have received comes from detainees, including some of high rank"
Seized Iraq Intelligence Service records indicating that Saddam's henchmen regarded bin Laden as an asset as early as 1992?
Yes the invasion of Iraq was somewhat personal, I cannot deny that, but it was all just, that's for sure.
As for the Iraqi people's opinion, well the majority of the folk I spoke to in Iraq are so happy we helped em out. Men wait in line for literally days to try and join the Police and the Army.
Ahh yes the Iraqi army, did you know than all members of the Iraqi army wear masks when they are on patrols, that's so someone doesn't see them, and kill their family if they recognize them, but there are people watching them go to work and such, they are risking a lot just by doing that. I can tell you from personal experience, those guys are some of the most dedicated people I have seen in my life. They are trying to make an impact, they want a free Iraq, as does pretty much everyone else.
* Iraq must comply fully with UNSCR 660 (regarding Iraq's illegal invasion of Kuwait) "and all subsequent relevant resolutions."
* Authorizes UN Member States "to use all necessary means to uphold and implement resolution 660 and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area."
UNSCR 686 - March 2, 1991
* Iraq must release prisoners detained during the Gulf War.
* Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
* Iraq must accept liability under international law for damages from its illegal invasion of Kuwait.
UNSCR 687 - April 3, 1991
* Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "chemical and biological weapons and all stocks of agents and all related subsystems and components and all research, development, support and manufacturing facilities."
* Iraq must "unconditionally agree not to acquire or develop nuclear weapons or nuclear-weapons-usable material" or any research, development or manufacturing facilities.
* Iraq must "unconditionally accept" the destruction, removal or rendering harmless "under international supervision" of all "ballistic missiles with a range greater than 150 KM and related major parts and repair and production facilities."
* Iraq must not "use, develop, construct or acquire" any weapons of mass destruction.
* Iraq must reaffirm its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
* Creates the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) to verify the elimination of Iraq's chemical and biological weapons programs and mandated that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) verify elimination of Iraq's nuclear weapons program.
* Iraq must declare fully its weapons of mass destruction programs.
* Iraq must not commit or support terrorism, or allow terrorist organizations to operate in Iraq.
* Iraq must cooperate in accounting for the missing and dead Kuwaitis and others.
* Iraq must return Kuwaiti property seized during the Gulf War.
UNSCR 688 - April 5, 1991
* "Condemns" repression of Iraqi civilian population, "the consequences of which threaten international peace and security."
* Iraq must immediately end repression of its civilian population.
* Iraq must allow immediate access to international humanitarian organizations to those in need of assistance.
UNSCR 707 - August 15, 1991
* "Condemns" Iraq's "serious violation" of UNSCR 687.
* "Further condemns" Iraq's noncompliance with IAEA and its obligations under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
* Iraq must halt nuclear activities of all kinds until the Security Council deems Iraq in full compliance.
* Iraq must make a full, final and complete disclosure of all aspects of its weapons of mass destruction and missile programs.
* Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must cease attempts to conceal or move weapons of mass destruction, and related materials and facilities.
* Iraq must allow UN and IAEA inspectors to conduct inspection flights throughout Iraq.
* Iraq must provide transportation, medical and logistical support for UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 715 - October 11, 1991
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 949 - October 15, 1994
* "Condemns" Iraq's recent military deployments toward Kuwait.
* Iraq must not utilize its military or other forces in a hostile manner to threaten its neighbors or UN operations in Iraq.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors.
* Iraq must not enhance its military capability in southern Iraq.
UNSCR 1051 - March 27, 1996
* Iraq must report shipments of dual-use items related to weapons of mass destruction to the UN and IAEA.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1060 - June 12, 1996
* "Deplores" Iraq's refusal to allow access to UN inspectors and Iraq's "clear violations" of previous UN resolutions.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1115 - June 21, 1997
* "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "clear and flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
UNSCR 1134 - October 23, 1997
* "Condemns repeated refusal of Iraqi authorities to allow access" to UN inspectors, which constitutes a "flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687, 707, 715, and 1060.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
* Iraq must give immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access to Iraqi officials whom UN inspectors want to interview.
UNSCR 1137 - November 12, 1997
* "Condemns the continued violations by Iraq" of previous UN resolutions, including its "implicit threat to the safety of" aircraft operated by UN inspectors and its tampering with UN inspector monitoring equipment.
* Reaffirms Iraq's responsibility to ensure the safety of UN inspectors.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1154 - March 2, 1998
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access, and notes that any violation would have the "severest consequences for Iraq."
UNSCR 1194 - September 9, 1998
* "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 5 August 1998 to suspend cooperation with" UN and IAEA inspectors, which constitutes "a totally unacceptable contravention" of its obligations under UNSCR 687, 707, 715, 1060, 1115, and 1154.
* Iraq must cooperate fully with UN and IAEA weapons inspectors, and allow immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access.
UNSCR 1205 - November 5, 1998
* "Condemns the decision by Iraq of 31 October 1998 to cease cooperation" with UN inspectors as "a flagrant violation" of UNSCR 687 and other resolutions.
* Iraq must provide "immediate, complete and unconditional cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspectors.
UNSCR 1284 - December 17, 1999
* Created the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspections Commission (UNMOVIC) to replace previous weapon inspection team (UNSCOM).
* Iraq must allow UNMOVIC "immediate, unconditional and unrestricted access" to Iraqi officials and facilities.
* Iraq must fulfill its commitment to return Gulf War prisoners.
* Calls on Iraq to distribute humanitarian goods and medical supplies to its people and address the needs of vulnerable Iraqis without discrimination.
Additional UN Security Council Statements
In addition to the legally binding UNSCRs, the UN Security Council has also issued at least 30 statements from the President of the UN Security Council regarding Saddam Hussein's continued violations of UNSCRs. The list of statements includes:
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 28, 1991
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 5, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 19, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, February 28, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 6, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 11, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 12, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, April 10, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 17, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, July 6, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, September 2, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 23, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 24, 1992
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 8, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 11, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 18, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 28, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 23, 1993
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, October 8, 1994
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, March 19, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 14, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, August 23, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 30, 1996
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, June 13, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, October 29, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, November 13, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 3, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, December 22, 1997
* UN Security Council Presidential Statement, January 14, 1998
He Violated every one of those UN resolutions. So in light of that they passed this:
UNSCR 1441 - November 8, 2002
Found that Iraq has been and remains in material breach of its disarmament obligations.
Gave Iraq a final opportunity to comply.
Demanded that Iraq submit a currently accurate, full and complete declaration of its weapons of mass destruction and related programs within 30 days.
Demanded that Iraq cooperate immediately, unconditionally and actively with the UN inspections.
Decided that false statements or omissions in Iraq's declarations and failure by Iraq at any time to comply with and cooperate fully in the implementation of this resolution would constitute further material breach.
Recalls that the Security Council has repeatedly warned Iraq that it will face serious consequences as a result of its continued violations.
Which guess what, he again did not follow. What else were we supposed to do about it? Obviously this was not working. Eventually you gotta come down with an Iron fist.
Lets move on, shall we? Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11, okay he may not have, but the Iraqi government sure helped out the people who planned it, and last time I checked, Saddam was at the helm of the Iraq govt then.
Do you know who Ahmed Hikmat Shakir is? He was an Iaqi Intelligence operative who took care of a 9/11 hijacker in Malaysia and was in attendance at the Kuala Lampur meeting with two of the hijackers, and other conspirators, at what is believed to be the initial 9/11 planning session in January 2000
Mohammed Atta and Saddam met in the Czech in 2000. This has not been denied by the Czech govt.
Abu Musab Zarqawi went to Iraq in 2001 after being injured in a battle with US forces.
Ayman Zawahiri was living in Iraq, from as far back as 1992 and sometime in the late 90's received a lot of money from Saddam.
How about Abdul Rahman Yasin, yeah the 1993 World Trade Center guy, he was granted sanctuary in Iraq from 1993 on.
Saddam even labeled Osamma as an Arab and Islamic hero after the embassy bombings in 1998.
Salman Pak… which was an Iraqi run terrorist camp where you could learn many tactics, including Hijacking…
George Tenet's letter to congress in 2002 that said "Our understanding of the relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda is evolving and is based on sources of varying reliability. Some of the information we have received comes from detainees, including some of high rank"
Seized Iraq Intelligence Service records indicating that Saddam's henchmen regarded bin Laden as an asset as early as 1992?
Yes the invasion of Iraq was somewhat personal, I cannot deny that, but it was all just, that's for sure.
As for the Iraqi people's opinion, well the majority of the folk I spoke to in Iraq are so happy we helped em out. Men wait in line for literally days to try and join the Police and the Army.
Ahh yes the Iraqi army, did you know than all members of the Iraqi army wear masks when they are on patrols, that's so someone doesn't see them, and kill their family if they recognize them, but there are people watching them go to work and such, they are risking a lot just by doing that. I can tell you from personal experience, those guys are some of the most dedicated people I have seen in my life. They are trying to make an impact, they want a free Iraq, as does pretty much everyone else.
We didnt invade for natural resources. IF we did, don't you think crude oil prices would have gone down instead of screaming high prices?
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No child left behind = Wrong
Come on, that's one of your arguments?
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Sorry Carl. You have been pwnt.
Uh huh. By A bunch of poorly thought out arguments by someone else? He doesnt even refute the arguments I made, but rather tries to point out other things about bush, and indirectly agrees that the arguments that I made were infact right.
But, I guess this is LITE discussion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2006-01-29 at 22:49:18
Our president is this guy right here...
