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Since Trigger Viewer was removed from the downloads database because the download count got bruted, I recently looked at it and decided it was one of the most buggy programs ever. It takes forever to load triggers, and is one of the most sloppily coded pieces of crap ever.

Since LegacyWeapon is being retarded about Uberation3, I spent a while and completely recoded another "new" version of TriggerViewer. Since it is essentially a whole new program, its named "Trigger Viewer 2". It loads triggers instantly, and should hopefully not have any problems opening any kind of map.

To those who have no idea what "Trigger Viewer" is..


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And...no problem getting past protections? GUEdit? All those old ones? Even PROEdit?

ADDITION:
Great work.

"...and is one of the most sloppily coded pieces of crap ever..." Agreed.

actually if they're able to view triggers in a game, then they will be able to copy them, it would just be manually. and it'd probably only be one trigger or so

Or they could write everything down and steal the entirety of the map, and add new "features" to make it "different".

Don't be mean to Legacy..
And I disagree, I used Trigger Viewer, and it was pretty useful.. It was confusing at first though -_-

Some people can actually hex the crud out of that program and program a little button for "save" or even better, extracting the data into a text format so they can easily throw it back into an editing program for their entertainment. Heh...

Trigger Viewer is the first step: LOADING (input) the triggers.
The second step is a program to: SAVING (output) the triggers.

I hope you know what you are doing to the sen community MindArchon.

Gj.

This is a great program and all of you need to chill out.

I guess so... if you say its great...

It just makes me ask you: "where all those unprotecting programs come from."

So? Where? Where do those guys get their code for making their unprotectors?
From the protecting program itself.

This program? Ah, gives you all the code into one nice package. Is it that hard to slap a: "save map" button on it?

Yeah. Try it yourself. They'd have to make a function that actually saves data, compresses the MPQ...etc...

I don't even know if it's possible through hex editing. Highly doubtful.

Im just saying rexy. Anything is possible.

I love how your one to two sentence posts are so powerful. <3

Nice program MindArchon, just tried it out right now. Would be better with a location viewer

Basically, we are too lazy to complete certain parts of uberation3



It was an attempt to get him and me back into the groove

What did happen to the location viewer mindarchon? Did it poof?

I never added it in I might later

Retarded as in slow. Yes I'm being slow

Ah so theres the legacy master. How are you!
Work on that uberation!

No. It would take a shitload of time, for lack of a better phrase, to do what you've described. Not only would you have to write a completely new function, all done in assembly to an existing program that would call a bunch of functions in an outside dll using variables which you have no idea what are doing unless you spend another year figuring them out... but you'd also have to actually do the unprotecting stuff yourself. All this program does is load the data, not paying attention to many of the things the protection programs did (granted, stuff like Uberation gets to some trigger stuff like strings, CUWP slots, etc. in a different fashion than what is the regular .chk spec). A lot of the map data that's "protected" is pretty much untouched by this program.

Bottom line: he's not doing anything to the community. It would be much simpler, and in fact more effective, to write a completely new program if you wanted to make an unprotector.


If by "all those unprotecting programs", you mean the one unprotecting program that was ever released, the answer is "just by looking at what the protection does."

That's the fastest way to do it, period. Definitely much faster than analyzing a bunch of obscure ASM load code as you said.

Yes, as I've said above, it is "that hard to slap on a 'save map' button on it."

*Red2Blue shrugs*

I donno what to say.
We will see what happens as time goes on.


There are more then you think.

eww theres a small glitch, it says 1023/1024 strings in any map

Yeah just ignore that.. its something I never removed

pretty much