Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-05 at 23:11:47
If I ruled the world, I would make all companies become one, all owned by the govenment and all profit towards the government.
Stores would be abolishes, for their would be no seroius veriaty in my world.
With the abolishment of diversity, many items would go out of business and only important businesses would stay.
With this small amount of businesses, the commute would be small, this causing cars to be ineffeicent.
With cars being abolished, metal and oil would be used for better uses, making poeples lives better.
With the small businesses, more would get acomplished, making longer lives and making all lives better.
Since all jobs would be important, all working and even non-working poeple would get paid the same amount, thus cutting crime, theift, killings and so on.
Since one man owned the world, large wars would not exist, making the supplies for war used for more important services.
All profit would go back out to the people, thus making the government and the people always having the same amount of money.
Laws would be put into place allowing only 2 children per family, great grandparents die, thus being replace by the children, thus mantaining a small fluxuation in population.
Quality and quantity would depend on the person, for they can choose either, since everyone gets paid the same.
Video games, most t.v. stations and maybe even some radio stations would be destroyed, making children and adults focus on their work.
Baised books, movies, and music would be abolished.
This would make ALMOST the perfect society, I am missing a few things from my origanal thnk group at school, but I think I jotted down the just of it.
Stores would be abolishes, for their would be no seroius veriaty in my world.
With the abolishment of diversity, many items would go out of business and only important businesses would stay.
With this small amount of businesses, the commute would be small, this causing cars to be ineffeicent.
With cars being abolished, metal and oil would be used for better uses, making poeples lives better.
With the small businesses, more would get acomplished, making longer lives and making all lives better.
Since all jobs would be important, all working and even non-working poeple would get paid the same amount, thus cutting crime, theift, killings and so on.
Since one man owned the world, large wars would not exist, making the supplies for war used for more important services.
All profit would go back out to the people, thus making the government and the people always having the same amount of money.
Laws would be put into place allowing only 2 children per family, great grandparents die, thus being replace by the children, thus mantaining a small fluxuation in population.
Quality and quantity would depend on the person, for they can choose either, since everyone gets paid the same.
Video games, most t.v. stations and maybe even some radio stations would be destroyed, making children and adults focus on their work.
Baised books, movies, and music would be abolished.
This would make ALMOST the perfect society, I am missing a few things from my origanal thnk group at school, but I think I jotted down the just of it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-02-05 at 23:35:04
Why does this belong in serious discussion?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-02-05 at 23:38:40
QUOTE(A_of_s_t @ Feb 5 2006, 10:11 PM)
If I ruled the world, I would make all companies become one, all owned by the govenment and all profit towards the government.
Stores would be abolishes, for their would be no seroius veriaty in my world.
With the abolishment of diversity, many items would go out of business and only important businesses would stay.
With this small amount of businesses, the commute would be small, this causing cars to be ineffeicent.
With cars being abolished, metal and oil would be used for better uses, making poeples lives better.
With the small businesses, more would get acomplished, making longer lives and making all lives better.
Since all jobs would be important, all working and even non-working poeple would get paid the same amount, thus cutting crime, theift, killings and so on.
Since one man owned the world, large wars would not exist, making the supplies for war used for more important services.
All profit would go back out to the people, thus making the government and the people always having the same amount of money.
Laws would be put into place allowing only 2 children per family, great grandparents die, thus being replace by the children, thus mantaining a small fluxuation in population.
Quality and quantity would depend on the person, for they can choose either, since everyone gets paid the same.
Video games, most t.v. stations and maybe even some radio stations would be destroyed, making children and adults focus on their work.
Baised books, movies, and music would be abolished.
This would make ALMOST the perfect society, I am missing a few things from my origanal thnk group at school, but I think I jotted down the just of it.
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Stores would be abolishes, for their would be no seroius veriaty in my world.
With the abolishment of diversity, many items would go out of business and only important businesses would stay.
With this small amount of businesses, the commute would be small, this causing cars to be ineffeicent.
With cars being abolished, metal and oil would be used for better uses, making poeples lives better.
With the small businesses, more would get acomplished, making longer lives and making all lives better.
Since all jobs would be important, all working and even non-working poeple would get paid the same amount, thus cutting crime, theift, killings and so on.
Since one man owned the world, large wars would not exist, making the supplies for war used for more important services.
All profit would go back out to the people, thus making the government and the people always having the same amount of money.
Laws would be put into place allowing only 2 children per family, great grandparents die, thus being replace by the children, thus mantaining a small fluxuation in population.
Quality and quantity would depend on the person, for they can choose either, since everyone gets paid the same.
Video games, most t.v. stations and maybe even some radio stations would be destroyed, making children and adults focus on their work.
Baised books, movies, and music would be abolished.
This would make ALMOST the perfect society, I am missing a few things from my origanal thnk group at school, but I think I jotted down the just of it.
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Sounds almost like an extreme form of communism.
The idea would be great, but the thing is you need a complete state of utopia or something for this to work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-02-05 at 23:41:42
in the attempt to create a perfect society one must destroy most freedom and all personal identity. thus this society will not be stable.
i smell extreme communism.
i smell extreme communism.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-05 at 23:46:28
lol. comunissim indeed. That was our discusion groups idea.
We also found that, when stating this comment in fornt of the class, the class agreed that the concept would be great, but sounded vaguely fimiliar...
I also found that, poeple dont like the concept of every one getting the same cash. They found that 'gay'. Anyway, it is comunissm. Now, what if I were to say, the government would be like the government in the book '1984'?
We also found that, when stating this comment in fornt of the class, the class agreed that the concept would be great, but sounded vaguely fimiliar...
I also found that, poeple dont like the concept of every one getting the same cash. They found that 'gay'. Anyway, it is comunissm. Now, what if I were to say, the government would be like the government in the book '1984'?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-02-05 at 23:55:30
well i think that government needs to put the peoples needs before building up its power. it may look good on paper but if you put it into actual action it deteriorates rapidly. for one reason everyone gets the same money this will not motivate people enough in thier work, and it might not make them think work is needed since they get money anyway.
think of it this way. a class of kids will get the average grade of the whole class. the over achievers will be pissed because they get a grade below what they deserve. the under achievers will not do the work because they can depend on other people to give them a grade. and some people will quit the class altogether.
...what was the question?
think of it this way. a class of kids will get the average grade of the whole class. the over achievers will be pissed because they get a grade below what they deserve. the under achievers will not do the work because they can depend on other people to give them a grade. and some people will quit the class altogether.
...what was the question?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-06 at 00:09:40
Ok, but the people that over acheive are meant to over acheive because they can, they should do no less.
The people that dont work, I meant as the mentally ill, if ur cousin is ... retarted... then, do u not still nurcher him/her? That is what I meant. Plus, people should put as much work as they can for the progress of others.
(I know that is never works out that way)
ADDITION:
But what if I where to take ALL literature from the past and abolish it or reword it for it seemed that it was always the way it was, they would become brainwashed and not know they were brainwashed and that things used to be different. The thing is, humans are dumb, no matter how smart he/she is, they are oblivious to everything, they believe what they are told! That is how this government can uphold its power.
ADDITION:
What if I add this:
I would constantly change the past so that it matches the present and that everyone with over thought would misteriously disapear and return to the society so no suspision would come, his soul would be destroyed with torture, threats and the taking away of everything he cherishes, he would then believe in the government and never question it! The public would think of it as a re-education of the man and would believe even stronger of the government!
And:
The human race was to be kept on the bring of death, just given enough to survive and they were given information that their life was getting better by giving them small things that they did not need, and that they seemed to like.
The people that dont work, I meant as the mentally ill, if ur cousin is ... retarted... then, do u not still nurcher him/her? That is what I meant. Plus, people should put as much work as they can for the progress of others.
(I know that is never works out that way)
ADDITION:
But what if I where to take ALL literature from the past and abolish it or reword it for it seemed that it was always the way it was, they would become brainwashed and not know they were brainwashed and that things used to be different. The thing is, humans are dumb, no matter how smart he/she is, they are oblivious to everything, they believe what they are told! That is how this government can uphold its power.
ADDITION:
What if I add this:
I would constantly change the past so that it matches the present and that everyone with over thought would misteriously disapear and return to the society so no suspision would come, his soul would be destroyed with torture, threats and the taking away of everything he cherishes, he would then believe in the government and never question it! The public would think of it as a re-education of the man and would believe even stronger of the government!
And:
The human race was to be kept on the bring of death, just given enough to survive and they were given information that their life was getting better by giving them small things that they did not need, and that they seemed to like.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by lonely_duck on 2006-02-06 at 00:42:58
Doesn't matter what you do, human nature in some will defect there will be defectors inside your government and everywhere, no one man can keep the world to themselves .
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Bringer on 2006-02-06 at 03:23:03
The only way to create a perfect Human Society is to destroy Humans all together. As for your Communism that you would bestow on people would not work or last. I must agree with Sie. No one would want to work anymore. The Modern society of today is built on incentives. Maybe if you did this in the 2,000 BCE you would get somewhere. As I was saying though, everything today is built that by doing something you get something in return. You work you get payed. The better you work then you get a raise. It works that way its just the way human life is today. Not to mention you would have those that would rebel and try to crush your government.
The closest thing you could get to a perfect society is the New World Order. It requires the eradication of 7/8ths of the World Population. The rest would be too afraid to fight back after you proved that you and your regiem could kill everyone else. You could then establish a strict code and set forth your government. Mind you that you would still have the outsiders that lived that would fight you and try to destory you. You would also have some conspirators within your little society that would try to dismantle you. Not to mention you would also have to get rid of religion.
The closest thing you could get to a perfect society is the New World Order. It requires the eradication of 7/8ths of the World Population. The rest would be too afraid to fight back after you proved that you and your regiem could kill everyone else. You could then establish a strict code and set forth your government. Mind you that you would still have the outsiders that lived that would fight you and try to destory you. You would also have some conspirators within your little society that would try to dismantle you. Not to mention you would also have to get rid of religion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-02-06 at 14:40:41
No point in it.
the universe.
the universe.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-02-06 at 16:02:08
everything you said in your first post has been a similar idea(as in being in control of the world) to their vision- Hitler, Alexander the Great, Ceaser. they all wanted to control the world, but it'll never happen. and there will always be people that wont like it and will stur up rebellion even if it did work
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-07 at 00:17:08
Hmmm... human nature is kind-of... RETARTED. If something works, they try to find a SMALL defect and exploit it. If the society was perfect, someone would defect because the COULD. Hmmm... how strange humans are...
To create a perfect world, I would need to establish a psuedo-government so the people THINK they have a say. This government would have no real power. And remember that thing I said that if someone thinks differently that the government, I'd toture them, I CHANGE THAT.
I'd kill them, then change the past to say they never existed, then if anyone said they did exist, I'd kill them. This would give fear, causing the people to apply something O'wien called 'doublethink', to hold two contridicory beliefs at the same time, MUAHAHAHAHA THE WORLD WILL BE MINE!!!
TREMBLE IN FEAR!!!:fear:
RETARTED. If something works, they try to find a SMALL defect and exploit it. If the society was perfect, someone would defect because the COULD. Hmmm... how strange humans are...To create a perfect world, I would need to establish a psuedo-government so the people THINK they have a say. This government would have no real power. And remember that thing I said that if someone thinks differently that the government, I'd toture them, I CHANGE THAT.
I'd kill them, then change the past to say they never existed, then if anyone said they did exist, I'd kill them. This would give fear, causing the people to apply something O'wien called 'doublethink', to hold two contridicory beliefs at the same time, MUAHAHAHAHA THE WORLD WILL BE MINE!!!
TREMBLE IN FEAR!!!:fear:Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-07 at 00:19:54
That government = rebellion. Wonderful, wonderful rebellion.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-02-07 at 05:40:16
QUOTE(A_of_s_t @ Feb 5 2006, 09:11 PM)
Video games, most t.v. stations and maybe even some radio stations would be destroyed, making children and adults focus on their work.
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Better yet, kill ALL humans on earth and replace them with robots.
ADDITION:
QUOTE(A_of_s_t @ Feb 6 2006, 10:17 PM)
Hmmm... human nature is kind-of... RETARTED. If something works, they try to find a SMALL defect and exploit it. If the society was perfect, someone would defect because the COULD. Hmmm... how strange humans are...
To create a perfect world, I would need to establish a psuedo-government so the people THINK they have a say. This government would have no real power. And remember that thing I said that if someone thinks differently that the government, I'd toture them, I CHANGE THAT.
I'd kill them, then change the past to say they never existed, then if anyone said they did exist, I'd kill them. This would give fear, causing the people to apply something O'wien called 'doublethink', to hold two contridicory beliefs at the same time, MUAHAHAHAHA THE WORLD WILL BE MINE!!! TREMBLE IN FEAR!!!:fear:
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RETARTED. If something works, they try to find a SMALL defect and exploit it. If the society was perfect, someone would defect because the COULD. Hmmm... how strange humans are...To create a perfect world, I would need to establish a psuedo-government so the people THINK they have a say. This government would have no real power. And remember that thing I said that if someone thinks differently that the government, I'd toture them, I CHANGE THAT.
I'd kill them, then change the past to say they never existed, then if anyone said they did exist, I'd kill them. This would give fear, causing the people to apply something O'wien called 'doublethink', to hold two contridicory beliefs at the same time, MUAHAHAHAHA THE WORLD WILL BE MINE!!!
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Ya or you'd just get shot in the back of the head with a shotgun after a while of that..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2006-02-07 at 18:48:41
Anyone, want to explain how the hell this is serious? i mean this shuould be in the null..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snipe on 2006-02-07 at 18:49:32
QUOTE(A_of_s_t @ Feb 5 2006, 10:11 PM)
If I ruled the world, I would make all companies become one, all owned by the govenment and all profit towards the government.
Stores would be abolishes, for their would be no seroius veriaty in my world.
With the abolishment of diversity, many items would go out of business and only important businesses would stay.
With this small amount of businesses, the commute would be small, this causing cars to be ineffeicent.
With cars being abolished, metal and oil would be used for better uses, making poeples lives better.
With the small businesses, more would get acomplished, making longer lives and making all lives better.
Since all jobs would be important, all working and even non-working poeple would get paid the same amount, thus cutting crime, theift, killings and so on.
Since one man owned the world, large wars would not exist, making the supplies for war used for more important services.
All profit would go back out to the people, thus making the government and the people always having the same amount of money.
Laws would be put into place allowing only 2 children per family, great grandparents die, thus being replace by the children, thus mantaining a small fluxuation in population.
Quality and quantity would depend on the person, for they can choose either, since everyone gets paid the same.
Video games, most t.v. stations and maybe even some radio stations would be destroyed, making children and adults focus on their work.
Baised books, movies, and music would be abolished.
This would make ALMOST the perfect society, I am missing a few things from my origanal thnk group at school, but I think I jotted down the just of it.
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Stores would be abolishes, for their would be no seroius veriaty in my world.
With the abolishment of diversity, many items would go out of business and only important businesses would stay.
With this small amount of businesses, the commute would be small, this causing cars to be ineffeicent.
With cars being abolished, metal and oil would be used for better uses, making poeples lives better.
With the small businesses, more would get acomplished, making longer lives and making all lives better.
Since all jobs would be important, all working and even non-working poeple would get paid the same amount, thus cutting crime, theift, killings and so on.
Since one man owned the world, large wars would not exist, making the supplies for war used for more important services.
All profit would go back out to the people, thus making the government and the people always having the same amount of money.
Laws would be put into place allowing only 2 children per family, great grandparents die, thus being replace by the children, thus mantaining a small fluxuation in population.
Quality and quantity would depend on the person, for they can choose either, since everyone gets paid the same.
Video games, most t.v. stations and maybe even some radio stations would be destroyed, making children and adults focus on their work.
Baised books, movies, and music would be abolished.
This would make ALMOST the perfect society, I am missing a few things from my origanal thnk group at school, but I think I jotted down the just of it.
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glad your not in power.. just like what happend to communism. It started out with a good idea called maxism, but the soviet union took it and created somthing horrible. But you do have some good things in there 
.Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-02-07 at 18:52:56
The destruction of video games? Are you mad!?!?!?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wing-of-no-Wing on 2006-02-08 at 02:41:19
QUOTE(A_of_s_t @ Feb 5 2006, 11:11 PM)
If I ruled the world, I would make all companies become one, all owned by the govenment and all profit towards the government.
Stores would be abolishes, for their would be no seroius veriaty in my world.
With the abolishment of diversity, many items would go out of business and only important businesses would stay.
With this small amount of businesses, the commute would be small, this causing cars to be ineffeicent.
With cars being abolished, metal and oil would be used for better uses, making poeples lives better.
With the small businesses, more would get acomplished, making longer lives and making all lives better.
Since all jobs would be important, all working and even non-working poeple would get paid the same amount, thus cutting crime, theift, killings and so on.
Since one man owned the world, large wars would not exist, making the supplies for war used for more important services.
All profit would go back out to the people, thus making the government and the people always having the same amount of money.
Laws would be put into place allowing only 2 children per family, great grandparents die, thus being replace by the children, thus mantaining a small fluxuation in population.
Quality and quantity would depend on the person, for they can choose either, since everyone gets paid the same.
Video games, most t.v. stations and maybe even some radio stations would be destroyed, making children and adults focus on their work.
Baised books, movies, and music would be abolished.
This would make ALMOST the perfect society, I am missing a few things from my origanal thnk group at school, but I think I jotted down the just of it.
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Stores would be abolishes, for their would be no seroius veriaty in my world.
With the abolishment of diversity, many items would go out of business and only important businesses would stay.
With this small amount of businesses, the commute would be small, this causing cars to be ineffeicent.
With cars being abolished, metal and oil would be used for better uses, making poeples lives better.
With the small businesses, more would get acomplished, making longer lives and making all lives better.
Since all jobs would be important, all working and even non-working poeple would get paid the same amount, thus cutting crime, theift, killings and so on.
Since one man owned the world, large wars would not exist, making the supplies for war used for more important services.
All profit would go back out to the people, thus making the government and the people always having the same amount of money.
Laws would be put into place allowing only 2 children per family, great grandparents die, thus being replace by the children, thus mantaining a small fluxuation in population.
Quality and quantity would depend on the person, for they can choose either, since everyone gets paid the same.
Video games, most t.v. stations and maybe even some radio stations would be destroyed, making children and adults focus on their work.
Baised books, movies, and music would be abolished.
This would make ALMOST the perfect society, I am missing a few things from my origanal thnk group at school, but I think I jotted down the just of it.
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Go for it. Just know that if you were actually to put such a society into effect, I for one wouldn't have a single moral objection to your assassination. Long live freedom.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by 5(U) on 2006-02-08 at 11:41:12
wow that smells like uber communism..
the only problem if you do that, ur people wont have any freedom..
to make it perfect (ur way) u must stop all the ways the people could use to say (wow sry i suck in english.. if it was in french i could say it in a better way) what they think.. since everyone is unique.. they think differently.. that means they wouldnt necessarily (how do u write this word?) be happy with the way to tell em to be happy..
the best way to get a lot of control on the people.. without having em against you is to make the false democracy.. so basicly they think the lead the world how they want.. they dont.. so they dont really realise that they arent happy.. if you can make ur people think the life should be like it is already... then u can do anything..
roflol i suck so much in english.. i cant even write what i really want to say.. (im trying at least..)
so basicly u cant make the perfect world unless you use one of the 2 methods shown in: 1) george orwell's book, 1984.. or 2) aldous huxley's perfect world.. like he said in the book (i think its "brave new world", i read it in french..)
1) brainwash your people
2) make your people to enjoy what you need em for...
Aldoux Huxley said:
"The ultimate population is based on the iceberg model."
(that means 8/9th is underwater and 1/9th is over it..
So you only need 1/9th of all people to be inteligent or w/e.. so they can lead the world and then.. make a false democracy for the remaining 8/9th.. (or just brainwash em)
and he also said..
"An intellectual is a person who's found one thing that's more interesting than sex."
i just find this quote pretty funny...
the only problem if you do that, ur people wont have any freedom..
to make it perfect (ur way) u must stop all the ways the people could use to say (wow sry i suck in english.. if it was in french i could say it in a better way) what they think.. since everyone is unique.. they think differently.. that means they wouldnt necessarily (how do u write this word?) be happy with the way to tell em to be happy..
the best way to get a lot of control on the people.. without having em against you is to make the false democracy.. so basicly they think the lead the world how they want.. they dont.. so they dont really realise that they arent happy.. if you can make ur people think the life should be like it is already... then u can do anything..
roflol i suck so much in english.. i cant even write what i really want to say.. (im trying at least..)
so basicly u cant make the perfect world unless you use one of the 2 methods shown in: 1) george orwell's book, 1984.. or 2) aldous huxley's perfect world.. like he said in the book (i think its "brave new world", i read it in french..)
1) brainwash your people
2) make your people to enjoy what you need em for...
Aldoux Huxley said:
"The ultimate population is based on the iceberg model."
(that means 8/9th is underwater and 1/9th is over it..
So you only need 1/9th of all people to be inteligent or w/e.. so they can lead the world and then.. make a false democracy for the remaining 8/9th.. (or just brainwash em)
and he also said..
"An intellectual is a person who's found one thing that's more interesting than sex."
i just find this quote pretty funny...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-08 at 23:23:29
hmmm... no speak english is right (sorry, no offense, ur english is better then mine 
)
If I were to make a new laungauge, one that contained as LITTLE words as possible, so to contain thought, it might work. Like, destruction of words like bad and horrible and replacing them with ungood and doubleungood. And get rid of most 'freedom' words(i.e. patriotic, noble and freedom), so my people would have a hard time destroying my commmunism...
And this is a serious disccusion because all people have a different way of looking at 'free' and the way poeple should run governing.
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O, and SNIPE? What were the good things in my communism?
) If I were to make a new laungauge, one that contained as LITTLE words as possible, so to contain thought, it might work. Like, destruction of words like bad and horrible and replacing them with ungood and doubleungood. And get rid of most 'freedom' words(i.e. patriotic, noble and freedom), so my people would have a hard time destroying my commmunism...
And this is a serious disccusion because all people have a different way of looking at 'free' and the way poeple should run governing.
ADDITION:
O, and SNIPE? What were the good things in my communism?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-02-09 at 06:54:43
Someone's been reading 1984...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-02-09 at 08:39:47
OMG MAKE SURE NOONE DOES ANYTHING FUN AT ALL JUST TURN EVERYONE INTO A SLAVE AND MAKE THEM WORK 24/7 AND KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE AND TORTURE THEM AND MAKE SURE LIFE SUCKS FOR EVERYONE.. WHAT A GREAT IDEA DUDE!!! *SARCASM*
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nimadude on 2006-02-09 at 14:19:35
Before long your butt would be kicked back to china.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ... on 2006-02-09 at 15:20:14
QUOTE
Video games, most t.v. stations and maybe even some radio stations would be destroyed, making children and adults focus on their work.
Baised books, movies, and music would be abolished.
Baised books, movies, and music would be abolished.
I'm gonna kill you if you do that.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Chronophobia on 2006-02-09 at 15:44:26
These ideas would make the whole world unstable, people can't live without music mate!