Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-12 at 20:41:48
I have heard of EUD Conditions, but I dont get how to use them, what they do or anything having to do with EUD, can SOMEONE HELP!!!!! 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-02-12 at 20:50:52
I dont think anybody has gotten any EUD's to work since 1.13f came out.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-12 at 20:53:28
EUD stands for extended unit deaths.
It lets you read memory bits outside of normal starcraft values.
They got scrambled by the last patch.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by SkuLL on 2006-02-12 at 21:03:45
I don't think anyone organized them back yet so we probably can't use it yet. But they're still there. Just scrambed.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-12 at 21:05:54
How were people able to use them?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-12 at 21:08:00
You can't with this patch.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-12 at 21:28:30
Well, before this patch was made, how was it possible and what were people able to do with it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Demaris on 2006-02-12 at 21:31:54
You could do a TON of things with them.
You used UbEr@TiOn
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-02-12 at 22:50:53
You could read anything that was happening instarcraft including keystrokes.. and before the EUD actions were patched.. you could do ANYTHING to starcraft.. including corrupt it I'm guesing and that is why they were patched, security risk.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-13 at 20:58:21
Not Really ANYTHING. A lot yes but not ANYTHING.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-02-13 at 21:27:10
Keystrokes aren't read by EUD conditions. That was the screen position, affected when you hit Up, Down, Right, Left, or Spacebar.
EUD conditions read the "deaths" of units between 317 and 65535 to actually read Starcraft-allotted RAM.
We pesume the memory offsets were scambled in 1.13f and in the advent of a 1.13g nobody feels like looking for them.
EUD conditions read the "deaths" of units between 317 and 65535 to actually read Starcraft-allotted RAM.
We pesume the memory offsets were scambled in 1.13f and in the advent of a 1.13g nobody feels like looking for them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Crispie on 2006-02-13 at 22:03:10
A lot of work screwed over by Blizz 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by LegacyWeapon on 2006-02-13 at 22:06:37
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Feb 13 2006, 09:27 PM)
We pesume the memory offsets were scambled in 1.13f and in the advent of a 1.13g nobody feels like looking for them.
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They were scrambled and we know where most of them are. We're just too lazy to update it because of the coming of ube3.[right][snapback]426772[/snapback][/right]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-02-14 at 01:51:39
Why did they scramble them anyways? 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lyon on 2006-02-14 at 18:01:42
I Say blizzard released new patch and Scrambled EUDs Just cause they hate SC so much and they take to much attention to WoW 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-14 at 22:49:08
Ummmm.... If Blizzard wants people to keep playing, THEY SHOULDNT SCRAMBLE STUFF!!! lol... so, can someone PM me when we do figure out what they are...
ADDITION:
So in Uberation, unter Uberedit (or w/e its called) I make a new trigger and use Regular Trigger, and then make a Custom Trigger and fill in the things in with numbers, and the numbers do things to Starcraft (after knowing, of course, what the EUD's are.)??
Doesn't sound too convincing 
But, I think thats what it is... right?
ADDITION:
So in Uberation, unter Uberedit (or w/e its called) I make a new trigger and use Regular Trigger, and then make a Custom Trigger and fill in the things in with numbers, and the numbers do things to Starcraft (after knowing, of course, what the EUD's are.)??
Doesn't sound too convincing But, I think thats what it is... right?Report, edit, etc...Posted by Fwop_ on 2006-02-15 at 00:10:03
EUD's weren't the greatest thing to hit Starcraft. People have made great maps without EUD's, so why are you complaining about the offsets being scrambled? You can make a new trigger in Uberation without having to switch over to a different editor.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-15 at 22:12:32
I know great maps were made without EUD, but, I want to know what they are and how to use them, they sound like they do cool things, but not so much that it will change the game DRAMATICLY...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by i)D(Elite on 2006-02-17 at 22:12:06
Here's an example of something I did with a few EUD's.
Megamedic is under attack by some rines, so she turns on her shields and casts a 1000 damage psi storm on them. Then she runs through their base blasting everything with her hyperspeed mega-yamato-gun. She sees a bunch of bc's coming in the distance with her 100 sight range (or something), so she decides to use her powers and walk across water to the next island, where she nukes the zerg hive which retaliates by throwing zerglings (Yes, through the air) at MegaMedic, killing her.
Seriously, that was a map I made back in the days of EUD. Good times.. good times..
And for you EUD Nay-Sayers, keep your anti-eud comments to yourself. People made great maps before, and they could make just as great maps now. It's not a revolution in sc, just a new fun feature to keep people interested. It isn't like WC3's sucky editor, because it isn't right there for you and you have to go to farther lengths to use them. That means, newbs won't use them and it won't become common knowledge. Why do you think most maps don't have as incredible terrain as some on SEN?
And just to clarify, EUD were a set of conditions and actions activated by using the Set Death Count action, and by giving strange numbers and unit names, like
"Set 32421234 deaths of -12491024 for player 5"
it wound up changing the memory of Starcraft, and it was the coolest thing ever in some of our opinions. It was like modding that you could play online! If blizz hadn't patched it with the lame excuse of "So it didn't crash mac users", then EUD's could've done great things...
On a side note, yes, it did crash mac users, but if I wanted to crash people, why would I bother making EUD's when I could just put an invalid unit instead?
On another side note, Damnit you lazy SEN'ers, get off your asses and unscramble it! I can't help cause I... uh... have a dentist appointment?
Megamedic is under attack by some rines, so she turns on her shields and casts a 1000 damage psi storm on them. Then she runs through their base blasting everything with her hyperspeed mega-yamato-gun. She sees a bunch of bc's coming in the distance with her 100 sight range (or something), so she decides to use her powers and walk across water to the next island, where she nukes the zerg hive which retaliates by throwing zerglings (Yes, through the air) at MegaMedic, killing her.
Seriously, that was a map I made back in the days of EUD. Good times.. good times..
And for you EUD Nay-Sayers, keep your anti-eud comments to yourself. People made great maps before, and they could make just as great maps now. It's not a revolution in sc, just a new fun feature to keep people interested. It isn't like WC3's sucky editor, because it isn't right there for you and you have to go to farther lengths to use them. That means, newbs won't use them and it won't become common knowledge. Why do you think most maps don't have as incredible terrain as some on SEN?
And just to clarify, EUD were a set of conditions and actions activated by using the Set Death Count action, and by giving strange numbers and unit names, like
"Set 32421234 deaths of -12491024 for player 5"
it wound up changing the memory of Starcraft, and it was the coolest thing ever in some of our opinions. It was like modding that you could play online! If blizz hadn't patched it with the lame excuse of "So it didn't crash mac users", then EUD's could've done great things...
On a side note, yes, it did crash mac users, but if I wanted to crash people, why would I bother making EUD's when I could just put an invalid unit instead?
On another side note, Damnit you lazy SEN'ers, get off your asses and unscramble it! I can't help cause I... uh... have a dentist appointment?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-18 at 00:07:14
lol. Maybe the Blizzard patcher makers should have just added frames for the unots that crash sc instead of patching the EUD, or making the EUDs capable for Macs, Gawd.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Azu on 2006-02-18 at 10:47:02
Why did they even bother porting it to mac. They shoulda ported it to Linux instead. -.-
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-02-18 at 11:20:21
The reason for patching EUD actions was that you could potentially modify a pointer to crash their computer (not just starcraft).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by A_of_s_t on 2006-02-20 at 17:43:01
Ooooo, crash a computer, sounds fun, but people smart enough to do EUD should be smart enough not to know not to crash peoples computers. But, what was the action trigger called to use EUD stuff?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2006-02-20 at 22:16:18
QUOTE(Doodle77(MM) @ Feb 18 2006, 09:20 AM)
The reason for patching EUD actions was that you could potentially modify a pointer to crash their computer (not just starcraft).
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Actually, I believe it allowed you to edit parts of memory that could lead to major and extensive exploits (IE: Loading up a virus).
QUOTE(A_of_s_t @ Feb 20 2006, 03:43 PM)
Ooooo, crash a computer, sounds fun, but people smart enough to do EUD should be smart enough not to know not to crash peoples computers. But, what was the action trigger called to use EUD stuff?
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Ever heard of someone doing it on purpose to be an ass? It was Set Deaths action. When they patched it, they didnt patch read extended deaths, which can be still be used to read memory (conditions).