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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-02-15 at 15:32:23
I'm getting so pissed off lately. It seems everybody around me has no will power. Every time somebody is given something hard to do, they complain. My mother smokes, and complains it's too hard to stop. She drinks, and again, it's too hard for her to stop. Kids in my school complain the work is too hard, because they don't try. My brother is on a diet, but he crashes because it's too hard not to eat junk food. My father promises me he'd stop smoking weed, and within a month he's back, saying he can't function without it. Honestly, everybody has an excuse for everything, nobody tries hard, and it's really pissing me off.

Anybody agree with me?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-02-15 at 15:37:47
I agree 100% and it's why I hate classes lower than Honors level because EVERYONE hates working. I'll admit that I'm lazy, and I use it as an excuse, but if I HAVE to get something done, I will.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-02-15 at 15:39:41
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My mother smokes, and complains it's too hard to stop. She drinks, and again, it's too hard for her to stop.

My father promises me he'd stop smoking weed, and within a month he's back, saying he can't function without it.


They make you addicted. Can't really blame them unless they REALLY try hard to quit.
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Kids in my school complain the work is too hard, because they don't try.


Don't worry about them, they'll regret it later.
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My brother is on a diet, but he crashes because it's too hard not to eat junk food.


Understandable, start exercising and eat in portions. Secret - Drink water if you're hungry!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-02-15 at 15:46:35
It's not impossible to quit, and they haven't even made an effort, whenever they try something, they go back on their word. My mom quit drinking for 5 days.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-02-15 at 15:48:01
Have they tried rehab?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-02-15 at 15:52:35
Yes, my dad has tried rehab for pot, once he got out of it, he started again. And the only time he stopped on his own was when he needed to get a job, which had to give him a drug test. He's able to stop, he just lacks control, which so many people now a days lack.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-02-15 at 16:14:30
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I agree 100% and it's why I hate classes lower than Honors level because EVERYONE hates working. I'll admit that I'm lazy, and I use it as an excuse, but if I HAVE to get something done, I will.

Ditto.
It gets annoying, everyone has an excuse for anything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2006-02-15 at 16:26:31
... Aww, discussion? I don't want to think! It's too early. My clothes itch. I want a cookie.

On a more serious note, if people aren't the laid back slothes many of them are, many wonderful innovations like the automobile and the remote control would not have become widespread.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-02-15 at 16:54:52
It's the lack of discipline that parents have to instill in their children or else they're deemed unworthy parents and have the kids taken away.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-02-15 at 17:21:06
Personally, I find people who don't get stuck into their schoolwork really annoying. I'm looking forward to going to a (hopefully) good university because then I can share classes and time with like-minded people who don't think work is 'uncool' and therefore avoid it on principle.

I accept that some people are naturally unintelligent, but if someone has potential but doesn't develop it, then they need to be putting in more effort and I think they're lazy.

Now, I'm prepared to put money on some people on this site having Asperger's Syndrome (AS), which is an extremely mild form of autism. AS people are often really smart but don't socialise as well as other people and like topics which have a lot of specific knowledge and statistics associated with them, e.g. planes, trains, cars, dinosaurs, specific periods of history and computers. They can become absolutely obsessed with these topics and think of schoolwork as beneath them and insulting to their intelligence. This leads to serious underachievement, seeing as they have such good potential. AS people are often labelled 'nerds' by the rest of society. I find it sad that their talents are often not harnessed.

Sorry to ask a random question in the middle of the topic, but does anybody think they might have AS?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-02-15 at 18:00:27
Not a big deal biggrin.gif
I don't think I have AS. I socialize well, even if I try to not socialize, because I don't really like most people, and I like being quiet smile.gif, but, I'm pretty obsessed with computers, history, and sports, and usually I care more about them than school, until recently.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-02-15 at 19:42:09
I have very weak will power and self control now that second semester of senior year has begun. It's almost impossible for me to concentrate in school disgust.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by olaboy- on 2006-02-15 at 19:43:35
I can't concentrate on studying lately becuase I just got PS2 online. But I always seem to get good grades.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-02-16 at 01:25:40
I can have the will power of a god when I wish. I have the will power over my will power.

Most of the time though, I like to wait untill the lunch period before class to see how fast I can write two page essays. (My best time is writing a four page paper in about a half hour)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-02-16 at 04:14:26
This may not be true in all cases, but a lot of people (especially adults) who can't seem to get their act together have probably had something like this happen to them: Inevitably, you will encounter situations in life that you're not sure you can overcome. I'm talking about life altering decisions with no easy answer. They hurt, and some people need something to muffle the pain (like booze, cigarettes, eating, etc.). But these things never heal the problem, only the symptoms for a temporary time. When they try to quit, all of the mental anguish comes back into their minds 10x stronger than normal, so they relapse. It's a vicious cycle, and the best thing you can do to overcome it is not fall into it in the first place.

That's why I never allowed myself to like drinking, partying, drugs, or whatever. Besides just making me nervous in general, I know that these "fun" things will eventually become pain crutches that can be almost impossible to escape. If you don't want to fall into that trap, then keep yourself away from your weaknesses because something really difficult will spring up in your life sooner or later.

As for American school kids - they're just lazy, obnoxious brats. If this country were really under threat, this kind of laziness wouldn't exist. Look how the U.S. got their shiz together in the first half of the 20th century. If we don't shape up, we'll fall prey to a country more determined to succeed than we are.

I've said before, I'll say it again. The very nature of victory ensures that it won't last.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Falcon_A on 2006-02-18 at 01:04:00
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Look how the U.S. got their shiz together in the first half of the 20th century. If we don't shape up, we'll fall prey to a country more determined to succeed than we are.


If you notice, we need competition to start doing something.

But once we start going, it's DAMN good. Recently, I doubt that we could even do that if we tried, especially if a new 'space race' happens....we can't even keep skylab up there, we can't use the Saturn V rockets to carry stuff, it's all pure garbage now...

But about will/power self control, it depends. If I am passionate about something, I do it. If I am passionate about something illegal.....odds are I do it with no one around. If I don't give a damn, but I have to do it...then it usually ends up me doing a better job than people who care when I throw some crap together in 1 day.

ie. for an oral report that the teacher gave us from the beginning of school till january 28th to do, I got a 96 on, plenty of kids got 80 somethings. I researched one day, wrote it the next, presented it the next.

And I stuttered like a BIATCH!

But generally, in school, espeically honors classes, all the kids are like HEY GUYZ!!! LETS STUDY!!! and I just wanna go home...I'm naturally better than all of them but I haven't honed any of my skills really...and I sorta want to sometimes and then I don't actually do it.

Sometimes I try to imagine what I could do if I really really tried...and my potential makes me think if I'm actually good at something, because I usually consider myself to be garbage. I guess I have no reason to try considering my dad has no degree...my brother has no degree...my sister has no degree...they all went to college and quit....and they're all living relatively comfrotably...what I do not trying is better than 90% of these ghetto ignorant biznatches, so whatever I end up doing is fine with me.

Maybe I think I don't need willpower....but I can have it sometimes if I need it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MindArchon on 2006-02-19 at 02:48:55
QUOTE(CaptainWill @ Feb 15 2006, 03:21 PM)
Sorry to ask a random question in the middle of the topic, but does anybody think they might have AS?
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Possibly. I have trouble socializing with people because I honestly cannot relate to anything they want to talk about. I love factual information: Computers, History, and hate abstract ideas - anything that requires creative writing. School wise, I am an underachiever. I make goals such as "This term I'll get over 90%", but end up slacking off within the next day, and skip homework. I am worried that once I have to go to university, I won't make it due to my schoolmarks even though I am intelligent.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kow on 2006-02-19 at 12:55:45
QUOTE(MindArchon @ Feb 19 2006, 02:48 AM)
Possibly. I have trouble socializing with people because I honestly cannot relate to anything they want to talk about. I love factual information: Computers, History, and hate abstract ideas - anything that requires creative writing. School wise, I am an underachiever. I make goals such as "This term I'll get over 90%", but end up slacking off within the next day, and skip homework. I am worried that once I have to go to university, I won't make it due to my schoolmarks even though I am intelligent.
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That describes me perfectly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oo.Insane.oO on 2006-02-21 at 11:41:50
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I have very weak will power and self control now that second semester of senior year has begun. It's almost impossible for me to concentrate in school  disgust.gif
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Same here I just think about other shiz I could be doing instead of being at school or I just start day dreaming about doing random things
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DF-fourofspades on 2006-02-21 at 11:53:56
people these days lie to much, are too lazy, communicate less, and are just ****ed up.. ermm.gif
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