Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-02-26 at 11:38:06
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Question: Should abortion be made illegal?
Background: South Dakota's recent bill, which will soon be signed into law, would ban almost every abortion. The only exception is if the mother's life is in danger. If it is made into law, it could potentially overturn the Roe v. Wade case, which declared abortion to be a legal right by the Constitution.
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End: Sunday, 3/5
All rules stated here apply.
Question: Should abortion be made illegal?
Background: South Dakota's recent bill, which will soon be signed into law, would ban almost every abortion. The only exception is if the mother's life is in danger. If it is made into law, it could potentially overturn the Roe v. Wade case, which declared abortion to be a legal right by the Constitution.
List of all previous polls
1.Do you approve of the way President Bush is doing his job?
2.Is Communism a good idea?
3.References to God should be removed (i.e. "under God" in the pledge and "In God We Trust" on money)
4.Is I. Lewis ("Scooter") Libby Guilty?
5.What are your thoughts over the current evidence of corruption in the government?
6.Are you disturbed by in overwhelming Mexican/Hispanic influence on the US?
7.Are love and lust essentially the same thing, varying in intensity?
8.Do you approve of the way President Bush is doing his job?
9.Is the excecutive order to the NSA to spy on American citizens making overseas telephone calls grounds for impeachment?
10.Should the Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay be closed?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-02-26 at 14:00:12
To give my personal opinion on abortion, I think that all mothers have rights to abortion their children if they want to. I mean, I don't think that abortion is bad at all. I think that it is good in terms of stopping unneeded population booms.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-02-26 at 14:30:55
No. Not only is it a ridiculous infringement on our civil rights, the Supreme Court has already ruled it unconstitutional. I sincerely hope Bush's new flunkies on the Supreme Court have enough sense and morality to uphold the precedent of Roe v. Wade.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kame on 2006-02-26 at 14:40:30
Abortion should be legal.
It beats a coat hanger abortion, which runs the risk of infecting the mother along with killing the child. Its the best of two evils, and its still wrong, but its worse to kill the mother and the child.
It beats a coat hanger abortion, which runs the risk of infecting the mother along with killing the child. Its the best of two evils, and its still wrong, but its worse to kill the mother and the child.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by MillenniumArmy on 2006-02-26 at 14:43:28
IMO Abortion should be legal depending on the situation. For example, like if the woman's life is threatened or something, then yes.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathawk on 2006-02-26 at 14:56:31
Abortion should be legal. It's the choice of the mothers whether they want the child or not. And what happens if you can't support the baby, time or money wise? It lives a crappy life of poverty. What if your having a baby with no father. Then you're pretty much screwed for the rest of your life.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-02-26 at 15:33:59
I say no comment becuase I don't think its personally right for a life to be ended, with no say in the matter. But if the women's life is indanger or a special case then Im fine with it. You can find my stance directly in the middle of the two sides.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodan on 2006-02-26 at 15:50:46
This is the first time I've ever spoken of this, but I got another girl pregnant a couple of years ago. It's possible it wasn't true, because she didn't tell me until after it was aborted, but I don't think she'd lie about something like that. There's also the possibilty it wasn't mine. It was a strange, cold feeling to learn that. It would've been very difficult for her to take on a baby, and it would've been tough for me too, because I already had one. There's a lot of mixed emotions there. On one hand, I'll never get to know that child. On the other, it may have interfered with my ability to care for my first boy. I can't give you an answer that'll make me sound like a better person, so I won't try.
I'll be honest about this too: When I found out my boy's mom was pregnant, I told her she should abort it. But I was a stupid ass-hat back then. If something bad happened to my boy now, I would probably murder whoever was responsible, even if it meant me going to jail. I've changed a lot.
I voted "yes." Although I'm not the biggest fan of equal rights for everyone, I DO believe that should be the woman's decision and not the man's, because we honestly don't understand.
I'll be honest about this too: When I found out my boy's mom was pregnant, I told her she should abort it. But I was a stupid ass-hat back then. If something bad happened to my boy now, I would probably murder whoever was responsible, even if it meant me going to jail. I've changed a lot.
I voted "yes." Although I'm not the biggest fan of equal rights for everyone, I DO believe that should be the woman's decision and not the man's, because we honestly don't understand.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Wilhelm on 2006-02-26 at 16:57:38
No. People will get them anyways, atleast this way is safe.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-02-26 at 20:26:41
Adults who don't want abortion is just afraid of political disaster with the clash of Christian/Catholic churches and the government. Also, they are afraid that teenagers will take advantage of the law and have you-know-what everywhere and have an abortion. What they miss out is that abortion is bad. Why would all the teenagers have abortion? It hurts. I never done it, but think..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-02-26 at 20:55:50
What this abortion ban is meant to do is drive the case right to the supreme court, as sort of a Christian-Coalition approved litmus test of the new Supreme Court. The ban won't last as a sustained state law, if solely on the basis of the Supremacy Clause.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-02-27 at 01:05:28
If the new Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, I am seriously making plans to leave this country someday. Like I said before, a ban on abortion is wrong on so many levels.
1) Morally. It is the decision of the mother to end the life on an unborn baby. Fetuses are not sentient, and aborting a baby before the end of the second trimester is not murder.
2) Civil rights-ly. Even if it is "murder" it is the right of the mother to abort her baby.
3) Legally. The Supreme Court already ruled against abortion bans, can't the idiots get over it?
1) Morally. It is the decision of the mother to end the life on an unborn baby. Fetuses are not sentient, and aborting a baby before the end of the second trimester is not murder.
2) Civil rights-ly. Even if it is "murder" it is the right of the mother to abort her baby.
3) Legally. The Supreme Court already ruled against abortion bans, can't the idiots get over it?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-02-27 at 01:39:17
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Feb 26 2006, 10:05 PM)
If the new Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, I am seriously making plans to leave this country someday. Like I said before, a ban on abortion is wrong on so many levels.
1) Morally. It is the decision of the mother to end the life on an unborn baby. Fetuses are not sentient, and aborting a baby before the end of the second trimester is not murder.
2) Civil rights-ly. Even if it is "murder" it is the right of the mother to abort her baby.
3) Legally. The Supreme Court already ruled against abortion bans, can't the idiots get over it?
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1) Morally. It is the decision of the mother to end the life on an unborn baby. Fetuses are not sentient, and aborting a baby before the end of the second trimester is not murder.
2) Civil rights-ly. Even if it is "murder" it is the right of the mother to abort her baby.
3) Legally. The Supreme Court already ruled against abortion bans, can't the idiots get over it?
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So killing terrorists is murder, but killing a baby before it gets a chance to live is not?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-02-27 at 02:19:09
Killing convicted terrorists is not murder. Torturing them, however, is wrong. The main problem about Gitmo, however, is we have never offered proof that the detainees are indeed terrorists. I am not anti-death penalty or anything like that.
Also, just because something is growing into a human doesn't mean it is alive. A fetus is as much independently alive as your arm is. Aborting a fetus is not killing anything.
Also, just because something is growing into a human doesn't mean it is alive. A fetus is as much independently alive as your arm is. Aborting a fetus is not killing anything.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2006-02-27 at 10:32:52
Actually, the fetus is alive prett much from the start of conception. When the heart is created, and starts beating.
I know the site isn't exactly a "credited source", but I don't exactly have the time at this particular moment to find a credited source. I can later though.
QUOTE(http://www.bfl.org/crisis/life.htm)
1. Heartbeat
Modern technology can detect a baby's heartbeat eighteen days after conception.
That is only four days after most women miss a period and begin to suspect they are pregnant.
Most abortions are not performed until the eighth week (56 days) of a pregnancy, or a little later.
Modern technology can detect a baby's heartbeat eighteen days after conception.
That is only four days after most women miss a period and begin to suspect they are pregnant.
Most abortions are not performed until the eighth week (56 days) of a pregnancy, or a little later.
I know the site isn't exactly a "credited source", but I don't exactly have the time at this particular moment to find a credited source. I can later though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Sie_Sayoka on 2006-02-27 at 12:55:02
Just because it isnt born yet doesnt mean it isnt alive. I believe abortion should be illigal. The irresponsible mistakes of the parents shouldnt end a life. But in cases of rape and such i believe the mother should have the choice to use abortion or not.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by n2o-SiMpSoNs on 2006-02-27 at 14:39:56
I think that abortion should be legal. Your not alive until you come out your mom's frontal fun hole. 
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^ haha filter changed it into frontal fun holeReport, edit, etc...Posted by (DI)Yulla on 2006-02-27 at 14:48:37
Again, the abortion comes down into the main definition term: what is life and when does it begin?
I don't think it is a life by the time the heart starts beating. I think it becomes a life when it passes the first two tri semesters.
I don't think it is a life by the time the heart starts beating. I think it becomes a life when it passes the first two tri semesters.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-02-27 at 16:17:19
Its a human when it has all the body parts.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-02-27 at 18:06:03
Scientists consider bacteria life, single celled organisms. So why isn't a fetus life?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-02-27 at 18:07:05
Because people don't go around claiming that killing bacteria is murder.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-02-27 at 18:12:32
Yes..
'Oh no, I killed some common cold' won't exactly make you convicted for murder. It may be life, but it's not intelligent life. Even killing a pig is no murder, and a pig is more intelligent then a baby (I'm quite sure).
'Oh no, I killed some common cold' won't exactly make you convicted for murder. It may be life, but it's not intelligent life. Even killing a pig is no murder, and a pig is more intelligent then a baby (I'm quite sure).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2006-02-27 at 19:13:45
I believe abortion should be legal.
Even aside from whether or not you're 'killing' something, if I could give my life to spare someone from having a child they don't want, being forced to take care of that child in what could quite possibly be less than ideal growing or even living conditions or otherwise giving that child away, I would.
I believe that life isn't the most important thing; happiness is. And if it costs a life for one person to be happy rather than two people to be unhappy, fine by me.
Even aside from whether or not you're 'killing' something, if I could give my life to spare someone from having a child they don't want, being forced to take care of that child in what could quite possibly be less than ideal growing or even living conditions or otherwise giving that child away, I would.
I believe that life isn't the most important thing; happiness is. And if it costs a life for one person to be happy rather than two people to be unhappy, fine by me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Infested-Jerk on 2006-02-27 at 19:41:54
I boted for Yes, but I do have reservations.
Let's face it. Biologicly, we gain nothing for killing babies.
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Sometimes, the life would go to waste anyways. Sometimes contributing to the gene pool isn't a good thing.
SO I think abortions should be handled on a case by case basis.
But overall, all those teenage morons who get themselves (or another girl) pregnant should have to deal with the reprocusions of it.
Let's face it. Biologicly, we gain nothing for killing babies.
-BUT-
Sometimes, the life would go to waste anyways. Sometimes contributing to the gene pool isn't a good thing.
SO I think abortions should be handled on a case by case basis.
But overall, all those teenage morons who get themselves (or another girl) pregnant should have to deal with the reprocusions of it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2006-02-27 at 20:03:06
QUOTE(TheDaddy0420 @ Feb 27 2006, 03:06 PM)
Scientists consider bacteria life, single celled organisms. So why isn't a fetus life?
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Neither bacteria nor earily fetuses are sentient.