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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-06-12 at 15:44:02
It has been decided, my new Aliens map will be...

Aliens Versus Predator

Aliens - My first real mapping attempt, kind of newbish and action-oriented. It really wasn't the greatest thing under the sun, but it was fun nontheless.

Aliens: Infestation - I started this quite a while back, still very action-oriented, you were a marine wiping out a alien infestation in a company research vessel.

Aliens: Harvest - Now at 94%, this is my first real attempt at perfection, full of cutscenes and spooky events through my "brilliant" use of the "Motion Tracker".

Aliens Versus Predator - Start Posting Ideas!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Pinecone on 2004-06-12 at 15:47:28
Have the people BE the alien.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-06-12 at 15:49:36
I kind of like this idea, but it would have to be in a multiplayer map, I've had several ideas of a Aliens Versus Predator map. With six players (two for each race). And an Alien starts as a facehugger looking for a host, and can actually KILL another player in the process of growing. Then depending on the host you'd become a different variation of alien.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2004-06-12 at 23:39:26
im a aliens fan w00t i know all there is to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im the most best at avp aka alien versus predator

i cant wait to see the alien h. after this map im thinking about making a alien map smile.gif i hope you do good in your map smile.gif cant wait to see it HURRY UP@!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-06-12 at 23:45:17
Unfortionatly... I'm what they call a "lazy mother fu*ker", ten bucks says I'm done with AvP before Harvest... I have some terrain done.. look at this.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2004-06-12 at 23:47:14
look at what?!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-06-12 at 23:51:54
Wait, I was gonna post a picture... then forgot... here...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-06-13 at 00:40:17
The picture doesn't really show very much, just some terrain with nothing unusual. I played the map, if you remember. And it was boring, but not as boring as that pic makes it look. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-06-13 at 00:42:33
Why do you make me cry, so?

BTW your Last Dawn remake sucked the weiner! Take that to the bank! tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by @:@ on 2004-06-13 at 02:32:52
Aliens Vs Predator..

Starcraft is perfect for a game like that

because

Zerg = Predator
Protoss = Alien
Terran = Humans mixed in the middle of the two ^

Watch the movie coming out this summer and you will know what i mean.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valahan on 2004-06-13 at 02:57:46
... Don't you mean Zerg = Alien and Protoss = Predator?

Anyways, Zombie, I bet I could whoop your ass in vanilla AVP2. You can play your damn alien(Praetorian??) and I'll play a (pure)Combi-Pred. I'll own you. Or, you can play (pure)Combi-pred, and I'll be a Praetorian... I'll still own you!

That's right, I've taken out Queens as well with combi-pred. None of that Energy rifle BS stun. You can use your tail if you want, I care not. You prolly won't even get to hit me(with the tail). biggrin.gif wink.gif

Also, We can do Queen(you) vs Me(pistol marine) and I'll own you. =D. I've been playin AVP2 for a looong time. Just hope you're ready to get your ass handed to ya! wink.gif Don't even get me started on Shotgun Marine... I'll censored.gif you up good! w00t.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-06-13 at 13:17:53
What I plan on is having two human players be Alien, two being Marines, and two being Predators. There will be two computer players to have more aliens and marines (this would allow about 30-some aliens and 8 marines possibly). But the Predators will be all alone. Also I'm thinking about an inventory system. Ammo for Marines, maybe weapon switching (but not anywhere in the map). I'm not sure what I would do with Predators, because they wouldn't really have a set "Safe Location" on the map and I know everyone wants to see them cloak and change weapons. Anyone have any more ideas?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valahan on 2004-06-13 at 13:56:12
Hmm, for the Marines, disable their Personnel Cloaking.

For the Preds, have Hero Ghosts and Personnel Cloaking enabled, so they can cloak.


Hero Ghost = Predator with Spear Gun(requires Spears to shoot)
Dark Templar = Cloaked Predator using Wrist Spikes
Zealot = Predator using Wrist Spikes
Dark Archon = Maelstrom = Net Gun(they have no weapons out when using the Netgun)
Dragoon = Plasma Caster/Shoulder Cannon(Preds uncloak when using energy weapons)(requires energy to use)
You'd have to make a cloaking spell system... Because you can't ALWAYS be cloaked. You run out of energy.

Predator Items:
-Medi-Comp. They need energy to use this. Heals them 100%.
-Energy Sift. This recharges energy in full.

And when they use these Items, have them turn into a High Templar with no spells(for some amount of time)(aliens and marines get a minimap ping to your general location when you use these items - medi-comp makes you scream and Energy makes lound noise and bright lights)(*they can't run when using these items)


For the Alien players, have an observer that they can't move around following them. Why? Aliens can see cloaked predators because they "see" by pheremones.

FaceHugger = Egg(give like, 20 second hatch time, then they get a Chest Burster... not much else ya can do. The triggers would be too complex and no one would go near the damn Egg sad.gif
Chest Burster = broodling. Have critters nearby(resawned when an egg is respawned) They need to kill something(as a chest burster) to upgrade into a different Alien. 3 critters = 3 different aliens. Read below.
Runner = hero zergling(super fast move/attack, less damage, less life)
Drone(what we see in the movies, mostly) = normal zergling(fast attack but no fast run, stronger attack)
Praetorian = normal Ultralisk(no speed boost, gets armor boost, even stronger attack)
Otional: Queen = Hero Ultra. MOST strongest). Become a Queen by killing the Queen as a Praetorian(comp will turn on you if you start attacking them) and become the Queen.

Have the Queen(comp) placed somewhere random(this is where Aliens will spawn) and the aliens must protect the Queen. She lays an Egg at set intervals. (if both aliens are dead, other aliens(comp) will help defend while you're waiting for rebirth) You have to wait for an egg to come back to life.

If you become a Queen, and you run from the nest to go kill stuff(im sure you will!) a computer controlled Egg appears. 20 seconds later, a chest burster. It kills the Critter that transforms it into a Praetorian, it waits for about a minute until it changes into a Queen, and the whole Egg/respawn cycle begins again.

Alien abilities:
-Headbite. Hmm, when a Marine/Predator dies, created a burrowed unit at the location, then they have to manual do the headbite(they have to do it quick before the body "disappears or becomes no good"). Heals them in full. Turn them into a Lurker Egg when feeding.
-Pounce(drone/runner/predalien only). Hmm, I have no good idea for this yet)


the only thing is you would have to make extended staircases for the Aliens because Queen and Praetorian... won't be able to get around much. To/From basement/upstairs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-06-13 at 14:15:50
Well... Praetorians are Hydralisks, I've established that in my previous maps, Queens are good Ultralisks, but I think that no one unit starts as a Praetorian. A Drone, Runner, or PredAlien can only become one after killing... three units? Then molting into a Queen would come after a few more kills. Aliens will have a special ability to use the "Air Ducts" to move a around the map quickly, this eliminates the need for extending the stairs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-06-13 at 15:00:15
QUOTE(Valahan @ Jun 13 2004, 01:56 PM)
Hmm, for the Marines, disable their Personnel Cloaking.

I stopped reading his post after that line. tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-06-13 at 15:42:49
laugh.gif That is funny... laugh.gif

Oh and Predators will not be ghosts, that's too radical... atleast for me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valahan on 2004-06-13 at 15:43:13
If you ever played AVP1 or 2, Marines don't get cloak. But they have alot of technology and weapons to help them. A good Marine player can take out anyone, and same goes for a good player of any species.

EDIT: No ghosts? then how will you do the cloaking system? Hmm, they need their spear gun. For the cloaking system, perhaps have the energy to cast cloak, and get an invincible arbiter follow you around... but then again... not very cloaky is it... LOL. Huge arbiter moving around the map =D

EDIT 2: I like the air duct idea... at least someone will actually use some! -_-.

Hmm, but aliens don't really spit... unless you make a "spitter" class.

EDIT 3: These are all of course, just suggestions. Take what you want, but... Use what you take. =D
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-06-13 at 15:55:02
QUOTE(Valahan @ Jun 13 2004, 02:43 PM)
Hmm, but aliens don't really spit... unless you make a "spitter" class.

Actually in Ressurection when they're climbing up the ladder an Alien acid spits on the guy... whats his name... oh yeah, Christie. =D
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2004-06-13 at 16:12:20
QUOTE(Valahan @ Jun 13 2004, 01:57 AM)
... Don't you mean Zerg = Alien and Protoss = Predator?

Anyways, Zombie, I bet I could whoop your ass in vanilla AVP2. You can play your damn alien(Praetorian??) and I'll play a (pure)Combi-Pred. I'll own you. Or, you can play (pure)Combi-pred, and I'll be a Praetorian... I'll still own you!

That's right, I've taken out Queens as well with combi-pred. None of that Energy rifle BS stun. You can use your tail if you want, I care not. You prolly won't even get to hit me(with the tail).   biggrin.gif  wink.gif

Also, We can do Queen(you) vs Me(pistol marine) and I'll own you. =D. I've been playin AVP2 for a looong time. Just hope you're ready to get your ass handed to ya! wink.gif Don't even get me started on Shotgun Marine... I'll censored.gif you up good!  w00t.gif

you coudnt own a facehungger you noob!! im the best around so dont censored.gif around with me!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-06-13 at 16:15:32
Zombie, don't be crying when you get your a§s handed to you. happy.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Zombie on 2004-06-13 at 16:21:11
i can never be deafeted by you noobs
Report, edit, etc...Posted by .Coko[CK] on 2004-06-13 at 17:15:19
Please stick to the topic at hand Zombie, and this could be seen as Flaming.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valahan on 2004-06-13 at 17:26:15
Dude that wasn't "SPIT". If I recall, Christie was carrying... the dude who can't walk on his back, right? they switched sides(the paralyzed guy holding on to the ladder) so that Christie could shoot the Alien. He hits it in the face, and its acid blood "splashes" onto Christie's face... I'll have to rewatch the scene, but I never ever got the indication that it spit at him...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xeno on 2004-06-13 at 17:41:44
I remember well, it spit.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Valahan on 2004-06-13 at 17:44:27
Watch it again. It got shot... I have bad memory for things like this, but I swear it was shot and splashed, not spit... Anyways, I say enough of this bickering, back to subject.

You say you want to make an AvP map... are you basing this off of AVP1 and 2 or your own ideas? Because if you're making it based off AVP1/2, you got to find an alternative to the Ghost being the SpearGun.
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