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I had this idea from yesterday when DK flamed Kellimus with another account. It sure looks like people are beginning to avoid rules without any punishment.

I think there should be a Member area manager (MAM), that would accept/deny new member registrations. Now all you need to make an account is an e-mail. But when you click the validation link, MAM would get an PM with your registration page, IP and e-mail address. And from this info MAM would decide to accept/deny your registration.

How can MAM decide? Well, MAM should have IP/e-mail addresses of all members in the risk group(members banned before, members with warns etc.). Also MAM would have access to all member IP/e-mails in case of investigation this would help a lot.

If the new member papers look clean, MAM would accept him and he can access to SEN. If MAM suspects a double account or something else bad he would deny registration and note the IP/e-mail.

Also, MAM would search for existing double accounts and in case of match warn/suspend the existing account and ban double account.

I know it's all a bit to messy to clean it so easy, but it would at least stop the nonsense that is going on lately.

BTW, I nominate myself for the job. I know most of the risk group members cause I kinda check it from time to time. Also I am pretty good at finding clues over SEN, with IP/e-mail access It would be easy as hell for me. Also, I am pretty "hitler like"(I hate when someone break rules openly) as you have already noticed with shorty/tbb. Also I am on SEN everyday, so new members wouldn't have to wait more than a day to register.

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Your thoughts about MAM job...

Note: Leave your spam and especially flame comments to yourself, if you don't like this idea then say so and don't flame...

What checking? You are not checking anything. I can make like 5 accounts per day with the same e-mail and you wouldn't even notice.

Yea, you check after they have served their flame purpose. How about we check them before register so we will reduce the risk close to nothing.

I say give it a chance and then we'll see. What worse that the mess around here can happen? Somebody could get a deny but hes actually clean? Ok, make a auto e-mail with MAM AIM/MSN when he deny register so it is possible to argue on this matter

Yes, people does that. Still they make mistakes and I have fond few double accounts by these mistakes. I believe the ACP doesn't work or have flaws. Just by having a MAM the registration stuff would be under control and you could blame MAM if something bad happens with new members.

I got an idea...

One account per IP...If they got an IP switcher whatever thing, then we have to do the old fashion report or ban.

So if I have a brother using the same computer on a different account then he wouldn't be able to make it.
And that still brings up the point DT brought up, there are hundreds of IP addreas proxies and switching programs. As for the email, I didn't even know SEN accept 2 accounts from the same email, like other sites. This would be an ok idea if it didn't have so many holes in it, and if SEN was ever hacked then the entire community has there IP addreas revealed since it's all in a neat file where you can just copy them down with pencil and paper and start screwing up people's lives.

It wouldn't be like only IP based, just IP/e-mail addresses would make it easier to track risk groups. The general idea, is to have a person who accept/deny new accounts and keep order in member area, like deletes obvious double accounts and stuff.

We can't do anything to people who use Proxies or have a Dynamic IP. I know, it sucks, but oh well.

And I have 7 Yahoo email accounts. It's not that hard to get one, just so you know, but if this were implemented, and say the person isn't allowed to make the name, he'll just make another email account and re-register.


I don't have double accounts XD

Ok, MAM deny his request and notes his IP/e-mail to risk group. He come back with another e-mail. same IP... deny.

Yes it would be still possible to avoid the system as it always will, but it will be more complicated, and no fast accounts will be made.

It'll stop people like Yae who don't know how to use proxies, I guess that's good enough.

And I guess Yae had a static IP too.

Also I heard somewhere that proxies use some certain IP addresses, MAM can note them and deny any register request made on proxy IP, so MAM can get the real IP and use it in investigation.

So... basically you're suggesting someone get an admin-level job as an entry position? Hell no. And as a side note... I'm starting to learn to recognize proxies.

If such a thing were to be implemented, Admins and Global Mods would be working on it. We just don't want to reveal so much personal information to so many people. There are more than anough people that can see your IP Address and there are others who like to keep the only e-mail account that they have a secret because they don't want it publicized.

Another flaw with the system is that if all of us go on vacation, can't log on, or anything similar to these, we won't have new members.

It doesn't take a few minutes to check for double accounts, takes way more than that, you have to check the members for IP Addresses matches, then the posts, then you have to check e-mails, time of posts per IP Address and a few other things. You can't just look if an IP address has more than 2 members attatched to it. The other day I checked the IP Address of a member that I suspected and to my amazement, I had used that same IP Address several months earlier.

My conclusion is no, we canot implement such a system that displays more personal information to more people, delays validation, can stop registrations all toghether and may lead to mistakes about double accounts.

Ok Ok, I just wanted to help. This place is being a mess since Yoshi left. Man, you haven't even deleted the account DK flamed Kellimus with. Actually it looks like we need a flameful discussion for you to take action.

Eh I better stop taking or I'll get asskicked myself. Have a nice day

DK's reason for using that name sounded justified, he said he lost his password for his real name, DK.

Like there is no "password recovery"

Apparently he lost his mail password too.

That sounds like a bunch of crap to me. DK is just feeling like he can break the rules because he has been there longer...

No, the system is not fair. For the dial-up users, dialing the same number can receive the same IP address. For instance, if someone that lives in the same area as me dials the same ISP phone number (which there are) then they wouldn't be able to sign up.

And DK is not lying. He had to get a new MSN name too, because he completely forgot the pass to that. He said his pass to SEN was ï7Xïï¼≥8c®×▬ or something, because he only used cookies.

I don't see DK's motive to making a fake account, I mean, he openly admitted that he was DK, but whatever.

OR. You could promote a GM to Admin? And they could check it once every week.