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http://www.physorg.com/news11555.html

Basically summed up into a sentence: In the most comprehensive survey ever undertaken of the massive ice sheets covering both Greenland and Antarctica, NASA scientists confirm climate warming is changing how much water remains locked in Earth's largest storehouses of ice and snow.


Well, to those who don't believe in global warming, what's your opinion?

The earth is going through a warming trend in the warming-cooling cycle.

I have heard, and from very reliable sorces is that the earth is going through a slow electromagnetic flip ( the north becomes the south and vice versa ) that causes the earth to heat up because the eltrons emitted fromt he sun are not just ending up at the north pole anymore, but are being spread out over a larger area of land, cuasing the heat and 'global warming'. Green house gass has something to do with it, but, it isn't going to cause anything dramatic.

How can we have greenhouse effect when there's a suposed hole in the atmosphere?

The main arguement as to why global warming doesn't exist is that it is a natural process. The earth supposively heats up and cools continuously. Many scientists even say that whether we combusted fossil fuels or not, ice caps would eventually melt. This is simply due to natural emissions of green house gases and the earth's orbit and other such occurances. However, I think I'll have to side with global warming, human contribution to the warming of the planet is the most likely cause of the warming.

Our electromagnetic field does flip because metal at the Mid-Ocean Rift (Makes Atlantic Ocean bigger) line up with the poles and every some odd million of years, the metals are lined up the opposite way. However, I've never heard this in relation with global warming.

Humans only contribute on a local scale to pollution. Volcanoes and forest fires are a much larger global pollutant.

I've been running several climate models on my computer and I found out the following:

If CO2 levels in the atmosphere doubled after 2000, this is the projected effect on the Earth's climate:

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I'm not sure what to believe. I think the climate is too complex for any model to simulate accurately.

Actually the warming period in a cooling period of the ongoing warming-cooling cycle.



I agree entirely with that last part, if it was simple enough to predict we wouldn't live in a world powered by tectonic action.

I also believe that by the time we have to actually worry about global warming, (Honestly, who cares if the polar bears are going away? What ahve they ever done for anyone?) someone will have invented a magical substance that absorbs the gas or puts it to good use. Like... supertrees for carbon dioxide overloads.

(Adding super to a word automatically makes it better.)

I remember a thread on Global Warming before, so I am mainly going to repost my arguments.


The Earth IS going through an electromagnet flip, and there is evidence of this. I have not heard anything of this relating to temperature change, but the main cause of concern is that this will probably effect much of our technology drastically.


There is a hole in the ozone layer It's not technically a hole, otherwise we would most likely be dead.


Agreed. Recent studies have shown the average temperature of the earth recently (past 100 years) has increased at a faster rate than the heating trends in the past. Taking deep ocean and ice core samples, they can determine what the climate was like in the past and compare.

However, there is no economy-safe solution to Global Warming

I think we dont need proof & reports of scientists to understand taht the climate is changing.

Remember this summer's & previous year's flood of european countries.

What did u expect from 50 years of non-stop active usage of petrol ?

We must face the fact: NO OTHER ANIMAL EXEPT A HUMAN PEES WHERE HE LIVES.

The question isn't if the temperature of Earth is increasing, it's why. Global warming is pretty much saying that green house gases are causing the Earth to warm up. However, skeptics say that it's a natural process. There's definitely better differences than what I gave, but it's pretty much around those lines (Human cause vs. Natural process)

We already know its increasing. And since its increased faster in the last 100 years then ever before (from studying ocean and ice cores) directly relates it to HUMAN INTERVENTION. Scientists have done studies, and they KNOW carbon dioxide is a problem in the atmosphere. We know it's the human race, and we know that decreasing carbon dioxide rates (or other solutions) will help, however its difficult to determine how much it will help in global temperature.

How do you get past temperatures form ocean and ice cores?

It might be something to do with the composition of the ice cores, but I think he's getting ice cores mixed up with something else (possibly dendrochronology - the study of tree rings). Ice cores can be used to measure concentrations of gases in the atmosphere a long time ago, but not temperature.

My point exactly. I could maybe understand their using of dendrochronology, but polar ice caps?!

Ya, polar ice caps retain the same composition of the atmosphere, thus showing the amount of gases in the atmosphere.

Would this might have to do with the moon leaving earths gravitational pull by 1/2 an inch a year?

I was reading one of those science magazines, and I found out something that isn't agains global warming, and ice caps melting. Although it's true that glabal warming is a bad thing, how about this. If it wasn't for glabal warming, we would be in the middle of another ice age now. If you don't want to believe me, don't. But it's a scientifically proven fact. So I'm 95% against global warming, but 5% for it.

Poles flipping has no relation to global warming. If the poles flipping had an effect on global warming, then the air temperature would be hotter around your average magnet. The flipping of the poles merely means that on our compasses, we will have to reverse the letters 'S' and 'N' in a couple MILLION years when the poles have fully flipped.

Does that mean we will have a west and east pole?!

old news. The whole the ocean is getting bigger, and warmer yada. The whole Santa is melting lets save him thing. There really is nothing we can do. I just hope God, if you belive will let us live another 100 years if anything so i can die in peace .

...no.

From what I remember I think I read something about this also effecting mountain growth and volcano growth and such.. I'm not sure but the electrons play a role in this...

think the ozone layer only protects us from the harmful uv rays from the sun...its the co2 atmosphere that causes the greenhouse effect. in some scientific predictions, the earth will be like venus in a few million years and the sun will swell up and expand whereas venus' dense atmosphere traps all the heat and dries up everything.

but for now,its just a no real impact cycle thats going on. the polar caps will melt and evaporate like in the sumemr then it will freeze up again later in the cold months of the year or in winter.