Report, edit, etc...Posted by DaMiNaToR on 2006-03-13 at 14:40:36
I just found this download in the DLDB, and I'm wondering how Voyager did it, but since he's gone right now, does anyone else know how he did it? I had a really good idea: Make different color minerals.
And I figure this probably works in a similar way.
Psi Mod
And I figure this probably works in a similar way.
Psi Mod
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-03-13 at 15:06:49
that could make just reset color in pallet index number then will look like that
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DaMiNaToR on 2006-03-13 at 15:24:00
What?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-03-13 at 15:27:37
just change colors in those image's pallet
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DaMiNaToR on 2006-03-13 at 16:00:15
So say I opened the picture for a Mineral Field in Photoshop CS2, then imported the pallet from another picture.
Would the minerals instantly change all their colors , like before my eyes?
Is that all paletts do?
Would the minerals instantly change all their colors , like before my eyes?
Is that all paletts do?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-03-13 at 16:41:28
QUOTE(DaMiNaToR @ Mar 13 2006, 02:59 PM)
So say I opened the picture for a Mineral Field in Photoshop CS2, then imported the pallet from another picture.
Would the minerals instantly change all their colors , like before my eyes?
Is that all paletts do?
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Would the minerals instantly change all their colors , like before my eyes?
Is that all paletts do?
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basically like do that but that is just one function
try change colors in pallet what u want ones then those area will change to
as u choosen colors and change image's mode to RBG mode and finally change again to index color then changed colors will matching rightly in that pallet
but that is just basic way use many skills of photoshop such as using filter
and other many effect then will looks better
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DaMiNaToR on 2006-03-13 at 16:46:31
What tools in photoshop besides importing pallets are used for SC and what do they do?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-03-13 at 17:12:34
well... photoshop is professional Application for most of CG desinger
that drive u to what u want all things pretty much...
typical function is support many image formats
and color manage editing is powerfull and when try compositing images
photoshop is show one´s best ability
and when work for many frames images then Autobatch process is very usefull
save macro to ur basic work steps and auto running that saved macro for many frames images all at once
besides those thigs, photoshop drive u many ohter stuffs
that drive u to what u want all things pretty much...
typical function is support many image formats
and color manage editing is powerfull and when try compositing images
photoshop is show one´s best ability
and when work for many frames images then Autobatch process is very usefull
save macro to ur basic work steps and auto running that saved macro for many frames images all at once
besides those thigs, photoshop drive u many ohter stuffs
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DaMiNaToR on 2006-03-13 at 17:15:32
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-03-13 at 17:26:02
yes i can do but those units abillity is just could make with basic modding tools isn't it ?
what photoshop be related work directly about those things ?
what photoshop be related work directly about those things ?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ojan on 2006-03-13 at 17:27:30
Many graphics (SC .grp's included) don't hold the colour information in the files themselves, the colours are stored in palette files.
In other words, the image data is basically just "pixel 94: colour 23, pixel 95: colour 52", and to view it, the program looks at the 23:rd (or 22:nd if it begins counting from 0) colour in the palette. The image itself doesn't hold any such information.
That is what palettes do in a nutshell.
What I assume Voyager did (without looking at anything but the .png in the .zip) is that he changed what index the colours had. For example, he changed "pixel 23: colour 59" (blueish) into "pixel 23: colour 125" (red) (numbers just made up, they are not based on the SC palette at all).
You can achieve this effect in two ways. You can either change the colour in the palette, which is the easiest thing to do (meaning changing colour 59 from blueish to red). Since there are probably an awful lot of .grps that use that palette, you would get a nice looking psi-storm, but all other .grps get their colours messed up. The other way is to do like he (probably) did and just change that .grp so that it points to a different colour that is already there in the palette (changing the pixels from blue into red). The drawback of this method is that you can't add your own colours that weren't previously there, but since adding colours that way would mean that you had to change a LOT .grp's and you have 256 different colours to choose from, it's not a very big drawback
I don't know if what I wrote is understandable - I'm tired and since English isn't my native language, I sometimes find it a bit difficult to explain technical things in a way that makes them easy to understand.
In other words, the image data is basically just "pixel 94: colour 23, pixel 95: colour 52", and to view it, the program looks at the 23:rd (or 22:nd if it begins counting from 0) colour in the palette. The image itself doesn't hold any such information.
That is what palettes do in a nutshell.
What I assume Voyager did (without looking at anything but the .png in the .zip) is that he changed what index the colours had. For example, he changed "pixel 23: colour 59" (blueish) into "pixel 23: colour 125" (red) (numbers just made up, they are not based on the SC palette at all).
You can achieve this effect in two ways. You can either change the colour in the palette, which is the easiest thing to do (meaning changing colour 59 from blueish to red). Since there are probably an awful lot of .grps that use that palette, you would get a nice looking psi-storm, but all other .grps get their colours messed up. The other way is to do like he (probably) did and just change that .grp so that it points to a different colour that is already there in the palette (changing the pixels from blue into red). The drawback of this method is that you can't add your own colours that weren't previously there, but since adding colours that way would mean that you had to change a LOT .grp's and you have 256 different colours to choose from, it's not a very big drawback
I don't know if what I wrote is understandable - I'm tired and since English isn't my native language, I sometimes find it a bit difficult to explain technical things in a way that makes them easy to understand.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Voyager7456(MM) on 2006-03-13 at 22:42:18
Ojan is correct, that's exactly how I did it.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2006-03-14 at 17:01:10
QUOTE
and you have 256 different colours to choose from, it's not a very big drawback
Not quite, lots of them are the same shade of blue as are used for the shadows, so it's really only like 220 or so; divided into 6 colors, that would leave you with only a few shades(10 or so) of each, but that's not counting the number of... 'exotic'? colors and other identical or near-identical colors, soo... ya.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DaMiNaToR on 2006-03-15 at 00:22:16
I think I figured out how to edit pallets in Photoshop today. I'm just wondering if I really did, though, because the way I found modifies .ACT files, not .PAL files. Is that right, or is there another way? There should be a tutorial for this. 
Here's what my screen looked like when I was doing it earlier:
Does that look right to you guys? I think it might be the wrong place...
Here's what my screen looked like when I was doing it earlier:
Does that look right to you guys? I think it might be the wrong place...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Firebird on 2006-03-15 at 07:00:25
2 ways.
A) use paint shop pro's "change to target"
or
B) use photoshop, and change the color pallete.
Im not sure with B...
A) use paint shop pro's "change to target"
or
B) use photoshop, and change the color pallete.
Im not sure with B...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ojan on 2006-03-15 at 07:45:23
Yeah, that looks good. Someone should update PalEdit to support .act files....
BTW, Daminator, get Firefox!
BTW, Daminator, get Firefox!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Firebird on 2006-03-15 at 07:56:42
or try: Image>Adjustments>Photo Filter
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DaMiNaToR on 2006-03-15 at 10:54:18
What's PalEdit?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ojan on 2006-03-15 at 12:45:57
A program for modding and converting palettes, made by King Arthur of Camelot Systems.
PalEdit
PalEdit Source code
People here really need to come out of their boxes and realize that while StarEdit.net is probably the most active site at the moment, it certainly isn't the center of StarCraft modding.
PalEdit
PalEdit Source code
People here really need to come out of their boxes and realize that while StarEdit.net is probably the most active site at the moment, it certainly isn't the center of StarCraft modding.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DaMiNaToR on 2006-03-15 at 19:40:07
That would mean you think something else is? 
Edit: The zip file in that download is corrupted.
Edit: The zip file in that download is corrupted.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-03-15 at 20:14:02
those guys's answer about photoshop is wrong
DaMiNaToR wait my tutorial,i would posting tutorial about pallete usage in photoshop/others
wait a few days... or maybe a few hours
DaMiNaToR wait my tutorial,i would posting tutorial about pallete usage in photoshop/others
wait a few days... or maybe a few hours
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DaMiNaToR on 2006-03-15 at 21:29:04
Sweet. 
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Ojan on 2006-03-16 at 09:25:41
No, the PalEdit zip works just fine. No corruption there.