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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-07-16 at 21:51:35
I saw another movie on opening day, this time it was I, Robot. Now, I didn't really want to see this movie, but it was worth it. I did however, have a few problems with this film. Why is humanity so pathetic and lazy in the future? They deserve to get their asses kicked by robots. tongue.gif And WTF is up with that girl costar whoever, I wanted to smack that bit¢h accross the face from the first minute she went on the screen. Last but not least, you have a scifi thriller, and where are the guns?! Crowbars, Pistols? Sure, we get a machine gun and shotgun, but I was disappointed. It's the year 2035 and we're still using those? I want flamethrowers, explosives, and acid spraying guns of some sort. Shouldn't we have invented some sort of EMP device to defeat the robots? Well, I've done enough flaming about the plot holes. The movie was actually very good and interesting. Some parts were even funny. There's a few plot twists but it all circles back to itself. But, it doesn't take that to the point where it's corny. Lots of action, and humans getting owned.

Bottom Line: It was a good movie. I'm not telling you to rush out and see it, but if you're a Sci-fi thriller fan, or you've got some time and cash, you've really nothing to lose.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2004-07-16 at 21:53:59
umm.... blink.gif yeh uhh..... ok.
you sound like an advertisement smile.gif
but the fact that it has will smith should give you enough reason to watch wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-07-16 at 21:59:43
EMP=NUKE which is why I'm still confused with the animatrixes the second renaissance thing..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2004-07-16 at 22:00:58
The TV ad made it look like this took place before The Matrix. tongue.gif If you watched the Animatrix you'd know.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-07-17 at 04:45:48
Yeah the Animatrix was..........Disturbing if i can say..

The Renassaunce was what t3h awesome tthing about it.
It shows that before t3h matrix 1 humans had made lots of robots to serve mankind...but one bot became "Self Aware" and killed the humans it lived with...then the humans decided to kill every robot...but most robots fled to a city of robots called "01".Robots wanted peace with humans but humans didn't give a censored.gif about robots so The robots developed "AI" and attacked the humans....and welll the humans lost =/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ent on 2004-07-17 at 04:47:12
I want to see I robot, but mainly because of that Isaac Asimov who wrote the novel is the best damn sci-fi writer ever.

But from what Ive seen of it it dont seem to really follow the novel at all but I still want to see it biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2004-07-17 at 08:43:11
QUOTE(Scorpion @ Jul 17 2004, 03:45 AM)
Yeah the Animatrix was..........Disturbing if i can say..

The Renassaunce was what t3h awesome tthing about it.
It shows that before t3h matrix 1 humans had made lots of robots to serve mankind...but one bot became "Self Aware" and killed the humans it lived with...then the humans decided to kill every robot...but most robots fled to a city of robots called "01".Robots wanted peace with humans but humans didn't give a  censored.gif  about robots so The robots developed "AI" and attacked the humans....and welll the humans lost =/

Humans didnt' lose!! (warning: matrix theory)..the whole story was entirely what the machines thought happened (everything was hacked from the machines database). the humans won the war, put the machines into a "matrix" and allowed the machines to create another "matrix" and use "ones" to teach the machines human emotions (ie love)
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Revelade on 2004-07-17 at 13:09:12
Maybe they limit arms in teh future? Of course you'd think flamethrowers, rocket launchers, and miniguns would make the world a better place...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Clokr_ on 2004-07-17 at 13:35:26
first Bush should die!!!!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-07-17 at 13:35:28
Back to teh movie... lol I read a review that said the best part of the movie was the lead charater stripping to take a shower... As moose said, it certainly has its plot holes
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Lo[S]eR on 2004-07-17 at 13:48:50
i saw that part on mtv..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2004-07-17 at 14:30:08
Hehe, i only saw like 3 seconds of it on MTV before I changed it. Better to see the whole movie at once, than to see a small segment and start asking yourself crazy questions.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ent on 2004-07-17 at 14:43:25
QUOTE(DT_Battlekruser @ Jul 17 2004, 07:35 PM)
Back to teh movie...  lol I read a review that said the best part of the movie was the lead charater stripping to take a shower...  As moose said, it certainly has its plot holes

If they would follow an asimov novel and not make up alot of stuff there wouldnt be any plot holes..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dashrike on 2004-07-17 at 15:57:20
The book is amazing. I want to read it again before I see the movie.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ent on 2004-07-17 at 15:59:37
yea same here, it was a long time ago and i want to read it in english since all i had was the translated swedish version but the damned library dont have any asimov books in english sad.gif.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dashrike on 2004-07-17 at 16:25:41
I've decided I'm going to learn German.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ent on 2004-07-17 at 17:43:43
why learn german? swedish is so mutch better biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Deathknight on 2004-07-17 at 18:35:32
Hey I just saw it and was going to create a topic called:

DK at the movies
I, ROBOT

but decided not to because Moose saw it before me and this topic was already here. Well first of all, by 2035 most "machinery" used in the movie wouldn't exist, and the guns look way too classic for that year. The roads and buildings look way too futuristic too. Other than that and whatever, the movie was pure awsomeness. Gogogogo Sunny with his higher density armor. W00t!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2004-07-17 at 19:41:23
My theory of what AI should be...

If you want machines (silicon chips in a nut aluminum shell) to make choices by themselves, they'd have to LEARN things themselves first. So far programmers have been trying to program EVERYTHING into an AI software, e.g. tell it what to respond to situation A, how to respond differently if situation A had an extension B, how to respond differently STILL if situation A's extension B went through change C, thus creating a LOT more statements to write... We're trying to bypass the learning process and put the information directly into the program. This may speed up time otherwise spent on the program learning by himself, but what if it later encounters a slightly different problem? My own idea is to put basic feeling variables into the program, and have it record the meaning of each new word as a combination of feelings, which, if you think about it, is how we humans learn words. E.g. first time you hear the word "boo-boo" might be your parents comforting you after you trip while attempting to walk, so the sound "boo" repeated twice will be recored in our brains as a mixture of feeling "pain" followed by "comfort", with a vague "motion" added on. Of course, "pain" can be categorized under "bad", while comfort under "good", and "motion" under "self control"... next time you watch tv and you see a parent repeat the phrase "boo-boo", you automatically related that show with the feelings "pain", "comfort", and probably expect a toddler who just fell. Conversely, if you see a toddler fall over, and someone ask YOU what happened, you may automatically say "the baby got a boo-boo," even though the parent/comforting part is not present. Now, suppose if you only program "boo-boo" into a robot to have it recognize the phrase when it sees a child fall over and a parent come up to comfort the child, what would happen if the robot sees a child fall over and a stranger come to pick the child up? The robot wouldn't know what to do! That is, unless if someone put a linking mechanism into the AI. Linking... a verb that AI's should use a lot more often.

Anyway, back to the movie. It's a sci-fi thriller, which is good, but applying all the apparent hogwash I just poured out above to the plot... How could the robots plan to revolt if they were not programmed the revolt factor? Revolt would come from the lack of satisfaction, yet who'd put "satisfaction" into a robot? I highly doubt AI's would be sophisticated to just turn on humans as early as the year 2035, but we can always hope... oh wait, that'd mean disaster for us. Eh, we had it coming.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PwnPirate on 2004-07-17 at 19:45:54
I cant read ure text closedeyes.gif simple as that.
Lets just say robots magiclly(sorry if spelled wrong,I'm nothing without spell check -_-) appeared and did their own jolly things.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ent on 2004-07-18 at 03:08:49
As for the world being way to futuristic, I guess thats because he wrote the novels like 50-60 years ago and the way we look at the world now is very different.

And Asimovs robots are very special you should really read some of the books. Its not like the robots could ever exist but its sci-fi and at the time he wrote the books thats exactly how robots could work.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2004-07-18 at 13:47:48
I think Humans will just be too lazy to do it by themselves.

That's why they built robots..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DT_Battlekruser on 2004-07-18 at 14:58:32
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If they would follow an asimov novel and not make up alot of stuff there wouldnt be any plot holes..


Again the movie people make a crappy movie out of an excellent book.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by PCFredZ on 2004-07-18 at 15:14:09
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Again the movie people make a crappy movie out of an excellent book.

Unfortunately they make movies so ordinary (i.e. stupid) people will see them, otherwise it'd be a documentary or something...
Report, edit, etc...Posted by ent on 2004-07-23 at 03:26:34
I would love to see the foundation as a movie, but only if it followed the books close and didnt start making up to mutch stuff... I guess they would screw that up aswell since they cant realize that the books were written some time ago when humans ahd another view of the universe..
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