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Report, edit, etc...Posted by (SEN)Dante50 on 2006-03-25 at 05:44:14
I'm starting my own Starcraft website, and I'm using Microsoft Word 2000 to make it. Is it possible to set up forums with Word 2000, or do I have to get something else confused.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by notnuclearrabbit on 2006-03-25 at 06:40:38
[center]What languages do you know? Where are you planning on hosting your board?
It is possible to make an entire website with just a text editor and browser, but it's much easier with the 'proper' tools.
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-03-25 at 11:48:58
If you use Microsoft Word to make a website, you will have a horrible time developing it.

Use Notepad for HTML and PHP.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Doodle77(MM) on 2006-03-25 at 12:05:13
use ConTEXT Syntax highlighting FTW!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by KrAzY on 2006-03-25 at 22:30:46
I made a website out of those before, it looked way better than SEN's old types of versions. But if you want a better forum, then go to:

InvisionFree and register an account and make your forum. You should know the drill.

Also, there is a different between invision forums and Microsoft Word 2000, Microsoft Word 2000 uses stuff and drag them to based on what it looks like. Invision on the other hand has to do with codes, scripts but way more advanced.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Oblivius on 2006-03-25 at 23:26:53
For forums, I use Proboards. Just add a link to the boards on your link bar or something.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (SEN)Dante50 on 2006-03-27 at 22:51:26
This isn't exactly the kind of stuff that I'm looking for. I want it to be like SEN. You know, give my own site its VERY OWN forums. But thanks for the help so far biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-03-28 at 15:35:21
Impossible with Microsoft Word. If you want it the same quality as SEN, you need to get the forum system, get the rest of the site, then start integrating them manually or hire someone to do it. You need to integrate login system to use same MySQL database and values, integrate avatars and all that, make identical links on forums and on rest of site to make it really look identical and integrated, etc. Trust me, you don't want to go there. Unless Yoshi hired someone, I have no idea how he did it (it might have been IP; he designed the tutorial system. Might have integrated site as well).
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gradius on 2006-03-28 at 16:08:59
Wait...Are you using word for coding or the layout?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-03-28 at 16:22:45
From what I understand, yes, he is. Otherwise it might actually be possible, but through extensive coding procedures. As said before.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Gradius on 2006-03-28 at 17:59:50
So which one is it then? Coding or Layout or Both
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IsolatedPurity on 2006-03-29 at 12:15:30
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Trust me, you don't want to go there. Unless Yoshi hired someone, I have no idea how he did it (it might have been IP; he designed the tutorial system. Might have integrated site as well).


If you put Microsoft Word (or FrontPage) and web design together, you probably can't do much on your own. Try downloading and installing one of these:
phpbb - http://www.phpbb.com/
smf - http://www.simplemachines.org/
burning board - http://www.woltlab.de/ (i assume this one is free)

SEN uses invision... you can download a try, but for a full board, you need to purchase a license now. There's also vbulletin as well, likewise, you need to buy it.

What you want to do is:
Find a board you like. Visit boards that use phpbb, smf, and burning... see which one you like the feel of the most. Visit their skin sections (phpbb probably has the largest), and find something that fits with what you want it to look like. Install the skin and start tweaking it. Find any mods you wish to integrate, do so...
Start building your knowledge in php, mysql, css, html, javascript... eventually you'll know what you're doing to do more complex things.

Things you need:
A private server with php and mysql. Usually costs money, but since you don't have to worry much about bandwidth, I bet you can get an account for under $5 a month.
Lots of free time.
Patience.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr_Mooo_Cow(U) on 2006-03-31 at 14:11:35
IsolatedPurity : SEN uses invision? last time I checked they coded their own forum. Edit : On second thought maybe not?

Centreri : Why is it impossible with Microsoft Word? Would it not be the same as using something such as notepad?

Also concerning what you said about integration : you would only have such problems if you didn't take what you said into consideration during the design of the site(even if that). The biggest hassles are visual hassles such as additions onto the gui of the site. Coding wise I think as long as all processes are kept in classes it wouldn't be that difficult. With classes all functions would reside in one central point(the class itself) regardless of the current page, making integration nowhere near as difficult as you made it sound.

Doodle77(MM) : As MindArchon would say, "Crimson Editor, syntax highlighting FTW!"

Dante50 : I think it's more than possible to create your site with your tools, take it you have the knowledge. I assume you aren't creating your actual layout purely in code? The only other tool I would recommend would be Photoshop or something of the nature to create the gui.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2006-04-02 at 11:42:56
I use Crimson Editor to code all my stuff.

I'd wait a month or two, learn the basics of HTML and PHP and wait for some new software to come out for your forums.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr_Mooo_Cow(U) on 2006-04-02 at 20:26:43
but I like tools specificly made for what I want done, such as Dreamweaver. Dreamweaver is alot like VB in that it has a list of functions and it displays the required arguments(which I like) and such where crimson editor does not sad.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-04-04 at 18:11:28
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Why is it impossible with Microsoft Word? Would it not be the same as using something such as notepad?


I meant it's visual website-design capabilities, as in move this there and then check the HTML code.

I use PsPad, it helps a lot with what I do. Syntax highlighting, lists all classes/objects in CSS code to find it easily, color picker, and much more smile.gif.

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Also concerning what you said about integration : you would only have such problems if you didn't take what you said into consideration during the design of the site(even if that). The biggest hassles are visual hassles such as additions onto the gui of the site. Coding wise I think as long as all processes are kept in classes it wouldn't be that difficult. With classes all functions would reside in one central point(the class itself) regardless of the current page, making integration nowhere near as difficult as you made it sound.


Try it. I made it sound extra difficult to emphasize that it's impossible to do with graphical editor.

You have to change the MySQL tables and all that and access them, integrate with any other scripts that you're using (like a CMS - you can use a bridge for that, though).
It's not as hard as I made it sound, but it's still very difficult and I doubt Yoshi could have done it by his own.. Remember, that IP still had to integrate his Tutorial and DLDB scripts (unless made specifically for this site) to use same tables and link to everything correctly.

Oh, and as to if it's IPB trial..
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Powered by Invision Power Board(Trial) v2.0.0 © 2006  IPS, Inc.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2006-04-04 at 21:13:43
Yoshi and IP have almost the same PHP skills. Each is working on their own project, which is to code their own forums from scratch.

A DLDB isn't very hard to do. All that you have to do is have a way to input a piece of information in a MySQL Database. Then you would need to retrieve that information.

A DLDB is very easy, now organizing it and creating logs and restrictions for it is difficult.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-04-09 at 17:18:14
I just saw that most of the add-on scripts like tutorials and DLDB were made by IP. What did Yoshi do?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by BeeR_KeG on 2006-04-10 at 21:25:21
Yoshi made the forum engine and basics. I do think that IP remade them so that it could truly be his.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by RexyRex on 2006-04-13 at 02:04:34
YES! http://www.crimsoneditor.com is the best!

Anyways, you'll need your own webhost first.

Once that's setup, post in this thread. smile.gif
http://www.hostmatrix.org
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TEC_Ghost on 2006-04-13 at 11:44:43
Yoshi didnt code the forums, they are made by Invision Power Board, he did get many Addons and im sure coded a few himself and designed the layout for them. But its based off of IPB, check the bottom of the forums for a link.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by (SEN)Dante50 on 2006-04-16 at 22:09:33
Isolated, can you tell me how to get the free trial? Maybe I'm just too stupid, but I can't seem to find out how. But thanks for your help. smile.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Shmeeps on 2006-04-16 at 22:32:08
I don't believe that they have a free trial board anymore, just demos. Try phpBB or SMFboards.

As for your question, yes, you can with MSWord, but you have to save it as a plaintext format with a .php extension. Better off to use notepad. I use EditPlus2, which is extremely good, but costs money, although I think there's a free version or demo somewhere. Anyways, up to you.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Centreri on 2006-04-17 at 10:35:50
Before getting Dreamweaver I used PSpad. I think it's best freeware editor out there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by scwizard on 2006-04-17 at 11:37:54
I use ConTEXT for programming of all sorts.

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Sorry about the annoyance but it's sounding like your a big n00b and you have a long way to go before you have your own website with your own forums.[/flaming]

Seriously, your best bet is to get an awardspace account. It's a free webhost that offers forums and support for actual domain names.

Once you get an awardspace account I'll provide further instructions.
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