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Staredit Network -> Modding Assistance -> dig out SC-Special Palette/colors
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-04-04 at 11:55:36
hey guys~! i have Good news here~! especialy this thread good for graphic modders

what is good news?... alright~! listen .....
Many of you may wondering what about the colors of SC special pallette, right?
and ditto here

Basically... many of u when decompiling thingy/*.GRP to BMP then there is
no right pallette that GRP is mainly " explosion / special effect / particle / flames /
lights effects ....etc.. "

there are just basic SC colors so u couldn't see colors correctly

so i have to find out their correctly colors and i used other way,
that way is reverse pictorial pallete
what is that mean?... here going details.........

if u read pinned my thread about pallette , u know about principle of pallette already
ok.. then what i used way?...
i just made GRP with picture of SC pallette like this... take look
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right~! it is image that pictured of pallette colors and this image compiled to GRP
so then if compiled GRP is Command center or others ...whatever...
that GRP will Displayed picture of pallette

that's it what how to find out special pallette~! biggrin.gif

in images.dat of Datedit/Asnall3, there is set about pallete
and typical used special image is "unit\thingy\TbangX.grp" and other explorsion GRP too
and that images used Special pallete and used speical colors set
if u see that in DatEdit/others... u can see this...
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ADDITION:
so image palette use to special and set special color and input saved images.dat file into MPQ
so then that Command center will Displayed colors with used palette and colors
like this.... biggrin.gif i just ran SC-Mapeditor that is best way to see like play game
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that's the way~! right~! so simple if know about rule of palette, that way is
everyones could get already
such that process use to other palette and colors so i could got these most palette
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Bascially... pallete/colors is need just only a few
according to Datedit, needed thing is just palette : 9-use special and EMP Shockwave
(Atcually EMP is not have to know that is enough with Basic palette)
and there are colors 1. orange 2.Green 3.Blue1 4.Blue2 that's it needed things
most thingy\*.grp is used special and own colors

1. orange is used most Terran's explosion / glow / flame / etc...
2. Green is used most Zerg's explosion / weapons, magic effect / etc...
3. Blue1 is used deffensive Matrix and Protoss's glow / etc...
4. Blue2 is used most Protoss's explosion / flame / etc...

so i was reference to dispalyed GRP and edit palette to as each palettes
here is specialy palettes take look~!
SPECIAL / YELLOW
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SPECIAL / GREEN
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SPECIAL / BLUE 1
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SPECIAL / BLUE 2
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ADDITION:
but uguys cath out about different colors a little bit with Disaplyed GRP
as comparison with this
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it is yellow colors
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what u could see different ? there is a few differece colors in set
look at first line's colors there is #1 ~ #14 colors are changed by myself
that why is there are applied opacity with Background
and 4th line, #32~#36 color is opacity too

so i made change for when if use those palette then looks good and easy
to understanding opacity of colors

but most colors has opacity a little bit themself that is special feature of Special palette
Special palette has each opacity rate with Background

for example, here is images what used "Default/Default" and " special / yellow"
Default
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yellow
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How about looks ? yellow is nearly correct essential colors

ADDITION:
baically... background tranceparence color is R0 G255 B0
and opacity colors is dark than backgrond color so that make understand to
what about rate of opacity
is the more darkness, the more opacity rate is getting down
so in a yellow palette, that showed gradient darkness with Green and on 4th line too
greenness set is my color set for understand to rate of opacity

and special palette is only use 36colors , 4 lines that why is im not sure
but when i did made used all colors picture that GRP does Crashed
i guess that special palette just used limited colors

ADDITION:
Note: these palette are not totally correct to Game Screenshot
but these are nearly correct essential colors and notice about opacity Greenness colors


alright~! that is basic rules and other palette is same rules
so i show urs what does images used pallete

ADDITION:

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Report, edit, etc...Posted by IanMM on 2006-04-04 at 14:34:33
The pallets only have one color for me :C
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-04-04 at 14:51:52
here is my diged out SC-Special Palette if u get this u will see GRP as like friendly
that palette is completely correct colors to Disaplyed Screen except Opacity Greenness

and these palette is used set "MicroSoft palette" type so ur imageEditor should support that and u could convert to other types with use PalEdit

Enjoy it ~! wink.gif

http://www.staredit.net/index.php?act=Atta...e=post&id=18153
Report, edit, etc...Posted by EzDay281 on 2006-04-04 at 16:49:54
Sweetness, thanks Nirvanajung.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by O)FaRTy1billion on 2006-04-04 at 18:51:14
Did you notice that they are transparent?
The PCX files show what color it is on turns to what other color.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-04-04 at 19:46:55
QUOTE(O)FaRTy1billion @ Apr 4 2006, 04:50 PM)
Did you notice that they are transparent?
The PCX files show what color it is on turns to what other color.
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what transparent?... what u mean ...?
did u notice about law of palette ? my thread key point is "palette what do working for Display "
i said that Special pallete and that pallete colors have each opacity rate
dude, u maybe have another guess coming ermm.gif
and those GRP is not Screen splash pcx and GRP and PCX is deffent rule of Display a little
GRP file is just showed essence SC colors from palette indexed number
so Graphic desinger should notice what number have own essence colors
if change #1 first transparent color to other color and use that color to cumstom image ,even if that image will showed as essence SC colors

in StarCraft grp, most important point is what picture used what numbers ~!
what color set to index number is little importance.
anyhow, StarCraft just show GRP with own colors by according to index number
so then don’t care if changed colors for that indexed number after all
i hope u read my pinned tutorial about palette first then u could getcha~! wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IanMM on 2006-04-07 at 11:41:52
Could you post picturs of the normal pallets that don't have the green? Your pallets in the zip don't works but a pic will.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-04-07 at 14:01:01
QUOTE(xXIanXx @ Apr 7 2006, 09:41 AM)
Could you post picturs of the normal pallets that don't have the green?  [right][snapback]460691[/snapback][/right]

dude, what's a problem ?
that's already posted in this tread, read and look at images again
if could'nt see then u can get normal palette from ur local GRP
Anyway it's no need to post here by me tongue.gif
Are u really newbie about photoshop?.... why did u ask me about like that ?
if u understand about rule of palette and if u have been work with photoshop about some experience at least then u could do just ur self
and yeah right, there is no have Greenness that palette just change tranceparent and opacity colors to Greenness

QUOTE
Your pallets in the zip don't works but a pic will.

no my palette is complete works, it just ur problem man~! tongue.gif
use complete zip extracting program plz~!
i say again, that zip file is perpectly works wink.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IanMM on 2006-04-07 at 14:10:19
1) I just started using pallets
2) I would not ask for the pallets if they did not work for me
3) As I said I am using photoshop but the pallets only turn out to be on color

Let me ask you this. Does the green when you compile it to a grp does it turn to the trancparency color?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by nirvanajung on 2006-04-07 at 15:21:18
QUOTE(xXIanXx @ Apr 7 2006, 12:09 PM)
1) I just started using pallets
2) I would not ask for the pallets if they did not work for me
3) As I said I am using photoshop but the pallets only turn out to be on color

palette is not only turnout to be on color in photoshop,
u can change and convert palette of images and u can import custom palette to just view changed colors of images
that is same doing like loading palette in RetroGRP to see as own colors
QUOTE
Let me ask you this. Does the green when you compile it to a grp does it turn to the trancparency color?

right~! that is rule of palette in StarCraft wink.gif

addition:
i think u need get more knowhow and skills of Photoshop
ur question are always so basically problem
Report, edit, etc...Posted by IanMM on 2006-04-07 at 15:23:33
well I've been using photoshop for 1 year so I don't know all. Yes most of them I don't understand. Your help has helped me with photoshop the past few months.
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