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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-04-11 at 19:04:37
This is from http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/
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Concentration Camps for the US? 
Again another step towards a Regime change in America.

Over the past few months more and more bypassing of laws and acting like the Exeuctive branch of the US Governemnt is above the law or in many cases has the authority under the US Constitution to do almost any activity.

A similar situtation arrose when Hitler pushed through several acts allowing the top position to gain broad powers of enforcement and rule making powers. i.e. Enabling Act. well the time has come that the Executive branch of the US governemnt is claiming the same powers and acutally implementing several key elements to achieve the same goal as Germany.

This topic is dedicated to this one issue of many.
I speak of the Concentration camps being made by Haliburton and many other camps being created this year and the next fiscial year.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/1/29/175431/539

http://www.halliburton.com/default/main/ha...nws_012406.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/febru...entioncamps.htm

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/18673.php

need i say more..... We all know what the camps are going to be used for. Some reports state over 3 million people can be held in all the camps in america.... Those camps are empty as of today.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-11 at 19:59:03
Some sites say they will be used for illegal immigrants if there is a huge jump in them. That won't really be necessary because there is a strong possibility of an act getting passed that allowed all illegal immigrants currently in this country to become legal.

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The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. In the event of a natural disaster, the contractor could be tasked with providing housing for ICE personnel performing law enforcement functions in support of relief efforts.


The daily kos's attempt to like America to Nazi Germany is not an original idea. They must make us look as evil as possible and only the weak minded listen to them. They are going to be used mainly for evacuation and relief centers.

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About the Enabling Act, unless you believe in that 9/11 government conspiracy bull hockey that has been de-bunked time and time again, it has no relation at all to the USA.

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The above Top Secret website talks about other things that if you believe I would hold you liable of being crazy. See what I mean Euro? Just like in the Crimes Against Iraq thread, you are willing to believe in even the craziest things just because they are there.

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Wow, now having looked at all the websites, they contradict your "America is opening up concentration camps in America like Nazi Germany did" Idea.

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Nuff said.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-11 at 21:14:10
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About the Enabling Act, unless you believe in that 9/11 government conspiracy bull hockey that has been de-bunked time and time again, it has no relation at all to the USA.


Care to show us where the Government being the initiators of 9/11 has been debunked? If anything, Euro has provided more than enough information to PROVE they did it.

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The above Top Secret website talks about other things that if you believe I would hold you liable of being crazy. See what I mean Euro? Just like in the Crimes Against Iraq thread, you are willing to believe in even the craziest things just because they are there.


Again I ask you. How old are you? Really. Judging by how you think we are not commiting crimes against Iraq, you must be below the age of 16 or 17. We are commiting crimes against THE WORLD. Including, OURSELVES. Do you know what The Patriot Act does? Let's take your basic rights.. The Bill Of Rights. Burn it.

There you have it. You have The Patriot Act.

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Nuff said.


And now do you understand why I don't show my intelligence on here? It's for people like YOU. To stuck on themselves to even believe a possible act, or treasonous thing could happen.

Look at Kennedy. He slept with Marilyn Monroe.
Look at Nixon. The Watergate Scandal.
Look at Reagon. The Iran-Contra Affair.
Look at Bush Sr. The Panama Deception (Great movie. Check it out)
Look at Clinton. Lied to the public about a blowjob.
Look at Bush Jr. Creation of a tolitarian organization, unconstitutional acts, War Crimes, Deception to the country, Lying to the country, More power to Military (Which is HIGHLY AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION) Invasion of countries without consent of Congress, RAVE Act (Destroy's the first amendment when it comes to Electronic Music gatherings) ect... The list goes on.

So please. Discontinue to post in the Serious Discussion, until you actually know what the hell you are talking about. Your arguments are getting more and more pathetic as I continue to see you post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-04-11 at 21:21:58
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About the Enabling Act, unless you believe in that 9/11 government conspiracy bull hockey that has been de-bunked time and time again, it has no relation at all to the USA.

You must be retarded and weak minded. Most have been de-bunked, but in reality the one we had a while ago on sen. Was never de-bunked. Pictures and all proved we were right. Sorry, but you lose.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CheeZe on 2006-04-11 at 21:23:50
Please refrain from flaming.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Loser_Musician on 2006-04-11 at 21:27:29
Bush's own followers have begun to hate him, and I highly expect this trend to continue. I would be amazed if the impeachment process doesn't start this year.

I'll only start to fear this whole hitler thing if bush's party wins the 2008 election.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-11 at 21:31:10
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Again I ask you. How old are you? Really. Judging by how you think we are not commiting crimes against Iraq, you must be below the age of 16 or 17. We are commiting crimes against THE WORLD. Including, OURSELVES. Do you know what The Patriot Act does? Let's take your basic rights.. The Bill Of Rights. Burn it.

There you have it. You have The Patriot Act.


Did I say all that? No, I'm talking about the crimes going on in the world. When a suicide bomber walks into a crowd of people and blows himself up in Iraq, people blame America, that's my experience, and not the terrorist himself for killing innocent people just because he hated American occupation. He knows America will not back out because of his actions but he does it anyway. What sense does that make?

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Look at Kennedy. He slept with Marilyn Monroe.
Look at Nixon. The Watergate Scandal.
Look at Reagon. The Iran-Contra Affair.
Look at Bush Sr. The Panama Deception (Great movie. Check it out)
Look at Clinton. Lied to the public about a blowjob.


Why don't you discontinue to post here until you know what the topic is about. We are not talking about other things like the ones listed above. In this particular thread the topic is a take on concentration camps in America.

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Look at Bush Jr. Creation of a tolitarian organization, unconstitutional acts, War Crimes, Deception to the country, Lying to the country, More power to Military (Which is HIGHLY AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION) Invasion of countries without consent of Congress, RAVE Act (Destroy's the first amendment when it comes to Electronic Music gatherings) ect... The list goes on.


Why do you continue on these stupid rants that are blatantly obvious. As I said before I do not support bush, but I do support the war in Iraq. You post in a flamming manner. (Thanks for the welcome to the forums btw by you can Euro a while back).

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Your arguments are getting more and more pathetic as I continue to see you post.


How are they getting pathetic? Just because I don't agree with you or Euro you don't even want to hear my voice? Ok, you just eliminated the point of discussion forums.

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Was never de-bunked. Pictures and all proved we were right. Sorry, but you lose.


I have seen the 9/11 conspiracy debates on many other forums and guess what? Some of them are 100 pages of CT's defying all logic for those 100 pages. There are about seven 9/11 topics and non of them have been solved. If you really want to look for the truth in 9/11, you will most likely run into a loop-hool that "does not give proof" to either side. Logic is on the side of the "terrorists did it" side while "American government is evil" is on the "conspiracy theorist's" side. I really don't want to turn this into a 9/11 thread right now so I'll stop right there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-04-11 at 21:37:18
Cheeze, i said he MUST be retarded, i didn't say he WAS retarded, so how is that a flame?

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Did I say all that? No, I'm talking about the crimes going on in the world. When a suicide bomber walks into a crowd of people and blows himself up in Iraq, people blame America, that's my experience, and not the terrorist himself for killing innocent people just because he hated American occupation. He knows America will not back out because of his actions but he does it anyway. What sense does that make?

Oh your right, makes no sense at all... his country is occupied, he should just conform, give up and let us control. I'm sure you would of said the same to George Washington.

Actually stalingrad kelli does hold to the topic at hand, you don't seem to think that America will use these concentration camps on its own, but it has in the past and if history repeats as it has in the past 6 years, they will again. He is pointing out all the (well not all) times when the gov has made/passed unconstitutional laws that only harm.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-11 at 21:51:43
QUOTE(StalingradK @ Apr 11 2006, 06:30 PM)
Why don't you discontinue to post here until you know what the topic is about. We are not talking about other things like the ones listed above. In this particular thread the topic is a take on concentration camps in America.


Read below:

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About the Enabling Act, unless you believe in that 9/11 government conspiracy bull hockey that has been de-bunked time and time again, it has no relation at all to the USA.


That has what to do with concentration camps? Again, read below:

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The above Top Secret website talks about other things that if you believe I would hold you liable of being crazy. See what I mean Euro? Just like in the Crimes Against Iraq thread, you are willing to believe in even the craziest things just because they are there.


Again. What does that have to do with concentration camps?

Read below:

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Nuff said.


And that has to do what with Concentration camps?

Please refrain from Hypocrisy, because it just shows small intelligence. But is that hard?

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Why do you continue on these stupid rants that are blatantly obvious. As I said before I do not support bush, but I do support the war in Iraq. You post in a flamming manner. (Thanks for the welcome to the forums btw by you can Euro a while back).


Continuing showing you unconstitutional acts are not stupid, or off topic (The thread IS about concentration camps, which are highly unconstitutional). Maybe if you weren't such an Egotist, you would realise that I have a point. And if you learn how to spell FLAMING, I might consider you a good debator. I'm not going to go off on why you think i'm a "flammer" because it's off topic.

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How are they getting pathetic? Just because I don't agree with you or Euro you don't even want to hear my voice? Ok, you just eliminated the point of discussion forums.


They are getting more pathetic because the burdon of proof is on you, and you provide no sources, or information to defend yourself. Ever.

And thanks for the extremely subtle flame. I'm the "flammer"? You pretty much just acused me of "eliminatin the point of discussion threads" because my debate tactics are the "in your face" style.

Concentration Camps are illegal. Period. The government can get away with them because: The Patriot Act.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-11 at 21:53:26
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Cheeze, i said he MUST be retarded, i didn't say he WAS retarded, so how is that a flame?


Have to say it wasn't a flame either disgust.gif

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Oh your right, makes no sense at all... his country is occupied, he should just conform, give up and let us control. I'm sure you would of said the same to George Washington.


Did George Washington strap C4 explosives to himself, walk into a crowd of people because he was angry at the people occupying his country, trying to make it better, kill a bunch of people, but had the knowledge before that this act would have no effect on the occupier's mind?

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Actually stalingrad kelli does hold to the topic at hand, you don't seem to think that America will use these concentration camps on its own, but it has in the past and if history repeats as it has in the past 6 years, they will again. He is pointing out all the (well not all) times when the gov has made/passed unconstitutional laws that only harm.


So why should the fact that certain president have lied or gotten their hands dirty in the past influence the President today? Or was Kellimus just ,"saying American Government bad... BAD."

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Holy hell you respond fast Kellimus.

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Continuing showing you unconstitutional acts are not stupid, or off topic (The thread IS about concentration camps, which are highly unconstitutional). Maybe if you weren't such an Egotist, you would realise that I have a point. And if you learn how to spell FLAMING, I might consider you a good debator. I'm not going to go off on why you think i'm a "flammer" because it's off topic.


If you read the articles in stead of just blindly following Euro, you would know that these "camps" are going to be used for Emergency, Evacuation, and Migrant centers.

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They are getting more pathetic because the burdon of proof is on you, and you provide no sources, or information to defend yourself. Ever.


No, it's there, you just choose to ignore it and not even consider looking at it or you really would be saying different. You choose to get information from other people or get your info from sites that also think aliens are stealing the local drinking water taps.

And you keep calling me an egotist...
Main Entry: ego·tism
Pronunciation: 'E-g&-"ti-z&m also 'e-
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin ego + English -tism (as in idiotism)
1 a : excessive use of the first person singular personal pronoun
b : the practice of talking about oneself too much
2 : an exaggerated sense of self-importance

Am I this? Explain how.

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I'm trying to pound into your little mind, that presidents in the past have completely farked up; Therefore, Bush can (and has) completely farked up.

But no. You're to much of an egotistically redundant person to even open your mind just a tinch


Yeah, they can and did. WHY DO YOU KEEP THINKING IM A BUSH SUPPORTER? *DIES*

I have opened my mind, I used believe in all the stuff you and Euro did. Until I saw the other side on thing which you aren't even willing to do right now or else you'd be saying different things on some issues, not all but some. What you can't do is see the other side, or the logical one. I've been on both sides and things seem much clearer and reasonable.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-11 at 21:57:25
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So why should the fact that certain president have lied or gotten their hands dirty in the past influence the President today? Or was Kellimus just ,"saying American Government bad... BAD."
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I'm trying to pound into your little mind, that presidents in the past have completely farked up; Therefore, Bush can (and has) completely farked up.

But no. You're to much of an egotistically redundant person to even open your mind just a tinch
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-11 at 22:03:57
Please read the edit on my last post.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-04-11 at 22:05:00
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No, it's there, you just choose to ignore it and not even consider looking at it or you really would be saying different. You choose to get information from other people or get your info from sites that also think aliens are stealing the local drinking water taps.


The burdon of proof is on you, because you have failed to show reliable sources against the discussion. Good game, nice try.

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2 : an exaggerated sense of self-importance


Fits you perfectly.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Stalingrad on 2006-04-11 at 22:15:42
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The burdon of proof is on you, because you have failed to show reliable sources against the discussion. Good game, nice try.


Nice to see you didn't even read the articles which have a reputible source because that's what I was using. You want me to use them? FINE, Here's one from above that completely contradicts Euro's accusations! Cheers.

http://www.halliburton.com/default/main/ha...nws_012406.html

The others are from Anti-War sites, conspiracy sites that contain things even you wouldn't believe in, and student online papers, mostly anti-war biased and another form of corrupted propaganda. The only thing wrong with this issue, is that these people will believe anything evil that America can do to its own people and saying that these emergency, relief, and migrant centers are for prisoners and are going to be used for violence and death are just insane. Should I really expect any less from CT's though? No fear.gif

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an exaggerated sense of self-importance


Explain how you can even tell me I'm an egotist without even personally knowing me, Egotism is something you usually experience upon meeting someone or getting to know them.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Golden-Fist on 2006-04-11 at 22:43:37
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Cheeze, i said he MUST be retarded, i didn't say he WAS retarded, so how is that a flame?[right][snapback]463508[/snapback][/right]

I believe he's refering to Kellimus with the whole "Discontinue to post here till you know what the hell you're talking about" etc.

I decided not the read like last 5 posts. So I'll just say america might be building camps for certain kinds of people, they might really suck. But I doubt any of them will reach the level of creulity that Concentration camps did. And if they do there would probably be a huge revolution thus the end of America. As for the breif reading of the 9/11 conspiracy, does anyone remember any terrorist attacks on that scale... ever? Me neither. Not to mention how any terrorist attacks around the world didn't have the amount of holes and questions 9/11 pose.
Like why the creator of the 747 Boeing refuses to release blueprints of how the plane is made. Why so many films from security cameras were taken away on the pentagon strike. And a bunch of other stuff, like why explosions appear outward from the WTC. Or a bunch of other stuff going on, like the pilots etc. The goverment's repsonse to this was basically:
"Uh, just trust us"
Report, edit, etc...Posted by UN-Rommel on 2006-04-12 at 00:38:43
Bahahaha!! Now i don't have to hear any more trash about what my country did during WWII. Alle Hagel Naz Amerika!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-04-12 at 01:43:11
I'm going to make this simple. When the piggies come a knockin' I don't want to hear shiz about "How did this happen?" "Why isn't anyone doing anything!?"

BTW It is having an effect on the occupiers mind and to totally ignore the fact that every month, thousands more join the cause of anti-war is completely immature and childish. I'd rather over react at the smallest thing then be a sheep when theres something big. BTW Americans probably would have strapped a bomb to their backs if they were there (They had only cannonballs... now you try exploding one of those things without being noticed to teh red coats. Exactly. We created the terrorists, we put saddam in power, we trained bin laden, we supplied the death squads in el salvador, we overthrew the democraticly elected president of Chille and Guatamala, and we gave the bombs/scuds to saddam! Case closed, discussion ended. Its funny how after all itsdone to hurt us, we still rally around to protect it. The cause of freedom is nothing more then a saying/words.

Why do they kill? Because theirs money to be made. If you want to trail the problem back to the core. Its Capitalism.
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