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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Xx.Doom.xX on 2006-05-11 at 15:00:46
Reply to the last post bout drugs mellow.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Arbitrary on 2006-05-11 at 15:11:36
"Good" and "Bad" become almost meaningless in this context. Good for what? Bad for who? No opinion about what drugs? Illegal drugs? Prescription drugs? Herbal remedies? There have been far more thought-out topics about drugs in here..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Marandule1 on 2006-05-11 at 15:38:48
to put it blantly this is very much meanless.
Everyone knows that if ur dumb enough to take um you deserve to die.
as most will probably not want to others are thinking ohh i wander what that is like...
disgust.gif as point made obviously drugs are bad//bugger ur life of cash and pride or even name.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Urmom(U) on 2006-05-11 at 15:59:19
Man is that tylenol bad. It is a very bad drug just like all of the other medications. [/sarcasm]
Report, edit, etc...Posted by CaptainWill on 2006-05-11 at 16:19:01
Tylenol is Paracetamol, right?

If it is, then it can be dangerous too - a lot of suicide attempts are made with Paracetamol. The thing is, people think that they'll just fall asleep and die, but in reality they're fine for a while and then suddenly die a painful death.

But yeah - could the original poster please clarify what they want us to discuss?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Marandule1 on 2006-05-11 at 16:24:07
to forward that the paracetimol scrambles the insides of a person then the person slowly vomits there insides out..
nice huh
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp)7-7 on 2006-05-11 at 16:48:44
Drugs are BAD, THe only way that they can be good is for sick patients who use drugs as metacine from a doctor. Other than that one way of using them properly, Drugs are bad, I am an athlete and I would never take any kind of drug. I have already been asked by my friends and I gave em the Hell No!!
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kellodood on 2006-05-11 at 17:44:45
QUOTE(Marandule1 @ May 11 2006, 12:38 PM)
to put it blantly this is very much meanless.
Everyone knows that if ur dumb enough to take um you deserve to die.
as most will probably not want to others are thinking ohh i wander what that is like...
disgust.gif  as point made obviously drugs are bad//bugger ur life of cash and pride or even name.
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QUOTE(7-7 @ May 11 2006, 01:48 PM)
Drugs are BAD, THe only way that they can be good is for sick patients who use drugs as metacine from a doctor.  Other than that one way of using them properly, Drugs are bad, I am an athlete and I would never take any kind of drug.  I have already been asked by my friends and I gave em the Hell No!!
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I'm an athlete and I do drugs.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by HolySin on 2006-05-11 at 17:53:44
Seriously, people need to get real. McDonald's probably does more damage than drugs do. Almost all of the anti-drug campaigns persuade people by displaying the people who excessively did those drugs. Also, have you noticed that most of the people in the commercials are people who don't do drugs? What would they know? Relatively, they're aren't many former druggies who are anti-drug than there are people who do drugs or have formerly done drugs and don't care about the anti-drug campaign. Yes, you will be unhealthier than the average person, but it won't kill you unless you use a drug in excess.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2006-05-11 at 20:48:01
Drugs are good and bad.
They can be fun
they can ruin your life
marijuana cant really ruin your life.. its a drug
crystal meth can ruin your life..
its not really a question of "good" or "bad"
its w/e you believe
some drugs are bad some aren't
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Rantent on 2006-05-12 at 00:53:07
Butyl-Butanoate! The awesomest stuff ever. One sniff and you'll know what I'm talking about.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2006-05-12 at 09:49:37
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Butyl-Butanoate

lol search that on google, then keep clicking "Did you mean:"
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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Cloud on 2006-05-12 at 11:48:02
I think the illegal drugs are essentially bad. But it also depends on the drug. lol then again I only think that weed is the only good illegal drug.


If its conscriptioned by a doctor or whatever then its fine. If it's illegal then its illegal.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-05-12 at 13:18:20
Doing drugs for sport isn't very sporty, I think. Sport was created to improove your body, and not to harm your health.

If I recall correctly, a body-building champion died becawse he used too much drugs. He had a fast dehydration and an extravasation near the stomache, that led to death.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Marandule1 on 2006-05-13 at 03:26:26
All drugs are bad Class A B C etc some can be used legally though.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-05-13 at 07:59:53
So Morphine and OxyContin are bad too? Medical Marijuana is bad? Hell, you're saying most medicines are bad, too.

drug

1. A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.

Now then, we must all agree on a certain definition for drug before this topic can continue. A drug, as you can see, is most definitely a good thing, according to definition. Unless, of course, you'd like to die when you get sick.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-05-13 at 10:13:55
I think this definition is a bit incorrect. Add the second point to it:

2. A substance that causes (that word that explains the general effect) or/and hallunications. Can make a person adict to it. Has a negative effect on the health.


Was LSD made for medicine ? There are a lot of chemical drugs, that are just made to "hit you in the head" that have no connection with medicine.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mune'R0x on 2006-05-13 at 11:14:20
QUOTE(Jammed @ May 13 2006, 09:13 AM)
I think this definition is a bit incorrect. Add the second point to it:

2. A substance that causes (that word that explains the general effect) or/and hallunications. Can make a person adict to it. Has a negative effect on the health.
Was LSD made for medicine ? There are a lot of chemical drugs, that are just made to "hit you in the head" that have no connection with medicine.
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I believe the word that you're looking for is euphoria? How is that bad? And I'd say 99.999% of all synthesized drugs were made for medicinal purposes. Just look back at the history of synthesized drugs. Look from the time they were created until people realized that it had recreational properties to it. Took awhile for people to realize the fun.

QUOTE(Marandule1 @ May 13 2006, 02:26 AM)
All drugs are bad Class A B C etc some can be used legally though.
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You're talking about the Controlled Substances Act? Shedule I - V drug status.
QUOTE(Wikipedia)
Schedule I drugs

Findings required:

    (A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
    (B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
    © There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.
    (D) The drug is not alcohol (ethanol) due to the failure of prohibition.

Sentences for first-time, non-violent offenders convicted of trafficking in Schedule I drugs can easily turn into de facto life sentences when multiple sales are prosecuted in one proceeding. See United States v. Angelos, 345 F. Supp. 2d 1227 (D. Utah 2004) (55 years for three sales of marijuana). Sentences for violent offenders are much higher.

Drugs on this schedule include:

    * GHB (Gamma-hydroxybutyrate), which has been used as a general anaesthetic with minimal side-effects and controlled action but a limited safe dosage range. It was placed in Schedule I in March 2000 after widespread recreational use;
    * Ibogaine
    * Cannabis (Marijuana). Cannabis has legal medical uses in some countries and U.S. states. Conseqently, some controversy exists about its placement in Schedule I. Main article: Cannabis rescheduling in the United States;
    * Dimethyltryptamine (DMT)
    * Heroin (Diacetylmorphine), which is used in much of Europe as a potent pain reliever in terminal cancer patients. (It is about twice as strong, by weight, as morphine.)
    * Ecstasy (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine,MDMA), which continues to be used medically, notably in the treatment of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). The FDA approved this PTSD use in 2001.
    * Psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushrooms
    * 5-MeO-DIPT;
    * MDA (3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine);
    * Lysergic acid diethylamide
    * Mescaline;
    * Peyote;
    * Methaqualone(Quaalude, Sopor, Mandrax);
    * DOM 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methylamphetamine
    * 2C-T-7
    * 2C-B (Nexus)


Schedule II drugs

Findings required:

    (A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
    (B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States or a currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions.
    © Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.

These drugs are only available by prescription, and distribution is carefully controlled and monitored by the DEA.

Drugs on this schedule include:

    * Cocaine (used as a topical anaesthetic);

    * Methylphenidate (Ritalin);

    * Most pure opioid agonists: Pethidine (INN) or meperidine (USAN), fentanyl, Hydromorphone, opium, oxycodone (the main ingredient in percocet and OxyContin), or morphine;

    * Short-acting barbiturates, such as secobarbital;

    * Amphetamine was originally placed in Schedule III, but was moved to Schedule II in 1971. Injectable methamphetamine has always been in Schedule II;


Schedule III drugs

Findings required:

    (A) The drug or other substance has a potential for abuse less than the drugs or other substances in schedules I and II.
    (B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
    © Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to moderate or low physical dependence or high psychological dependence.

These drugs are available only by prescription, though control of wholesale distribution is somewhat less stringent than Schedule II drugs.

Drugs on this schedule include:

    * Anabolic steroids (including prohormones such as androstenedione and androstenediol);

    * Intermediate-acting barbiturates, such as talbutal;

    * Ketamine, a drug that was originally developed as a milder substitute for PCP (primarily to be used as a human anesthetic) but has since become popular as a veterinary anesthetic;

    * Paregoric;

    * Xyrem, a preparation of GHB used to treat narcolepsy. Xyrem is in Schedule III but with a restricted distribution system;

    * Marinol, a synthetic form of THC used to treat nausea and vomiting caused by chemotherapy, as well as appetite loss caused by AIDS;

    * Hydrocodone / Codeine, when compounded with an NSAID(e.g. Vicoprofen, when compounded with Ibuprofen) or with paracetamol (e.g. Vicodin / Tylenol 3);

    * Rohypnol (Flunitrazepam). Flunitrazepam was placed in Schedule IV in 1984 and moved to Schedule III in 1995, but the DEA is considering moving it into Schedule I because of widespread non-medical use, and the fact that flunitrazepam is not approved by the FDA. It is best known as a date rape drug but is also fairly widely used in recreational ways. Flunitrazepam is already classified as a Schedule I drug in several states.


Schedule IV drugs

Findings required:

    (A) The drug or other substance has a low potential for abuse relative to the drugs or other substances in schedule III.
    (B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
    © Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to limited physical dependence or psychological dependence relative to the drugs or other substances in schedule III.

Control measures are similar to Schedule III.

Drugs on this schedule include:

    * Benzodiazepines, such as alprazolam (Xanax), chlordiazepoxide (librium), and diazepam (Valium);

    * Zolpidem (sold in the U.S. as Ambien);

    * Long-acting barbiturates such as phenobarbital;

    * Some partial agonist opioid analgesics, such as propoxyphene (Darvon) and pentazocine (Talwin);

    * Certain non-amphetamine stimulants, including pemoline and the psuedostimulant Modafinil.


Schedule V drugs

Findings required:

    (A) The drug or other substance has a low potential for abuse relative to the drugs or other substances in schedule IV.
    (B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
    © Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to limited physical dependence or psychological dependence relative to the drugs or other substances in schedule IV.

Schedule V drugs are sometimes available without a prescription.

Drugs on this schedule include:

    * Cough suppressants containing small amounts of codeine;

    * Preparations containing small amounts of opium or Diphenoxylate (used to treat diarrhea);

    * Pregabalin, an anticonvulsant and pain modulator.


Those are the schedules and drugs. Which, to not read that, would say that those are illegal and the lesser shedule number, the more time in jail/the more fines you'll have to pay.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-05-13 at 17:43:37
QUOTE(Jammed @ May 13 2006, 09:13 AM)
I think this definition is a bit incorrect. Add the second point to it:

2. A substance that causes (that word that explains the general effect) or/and hallunications. Can make a person adict to it. Has a negative effect on the health.
Was LSD made for medicine ? There are a lot of chemical drugs, that are just made to "hit you in the head" that have no connection with medicine.
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My definition was in no way incorrect. It was recieved from a dictionary, yours was not. And, medicines are referred to as drugs.

Additionally, your definition would define Alcohol as a drug.

Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp(U) on 2006-05-13 at 18:17:02
drugs are bad mmmmk?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Equality on 2006-05-13 at 22:20:00
Drugs arent that bad. Bad Drugs make you feel happy and makes you feel like your in DizzyLand but good drugs just helps you............. One bad drug plz lolz jp
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2006-05-14 at 18:30:14
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ May 13 2006, 05:59 AM)
drug 

1. A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
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there are different kinds of definations of drugs:
pharmacology a natural or artificial substance that is given to treat, prevent, or diagnose a disease or to lessen pain
drugs an often illegal and sometimes addictive substance that causes changes in behavior and perception and is taken for the effects
pharmacology a substance given to treat or prevent illness as defined in the U.S. Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act


QUOTE(Jammed @ May 13 2006, 08:13 AM)

Was LSD made for medicine ? There are a lot of chemical drugs, that are just made to "hit you in the head" that have no connection with medicine.
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LSD was actually tested as a medical drug. PCP which is much worse was actually used as a medical drug; it was used as a seditive and freezing agent. After a while they found it cause some messed up after effects after surgery so they stopped using it. But it got out to the public and became a drug. It was never made as an illegal drug but as a medical substance used to help people.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Snake)Ling on 2006-05-15 at 09:11:25
QUOTE(Mp(U) @ May 13 2006, 05:16 PM)
drugs are bad mmmmk?
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Ok. Whenever you go to the doctor, a hospital, or a pharmacy: Refuse a shot, refuse painkillers, and do not buy Aspirin or Sudafed or whatever the hell else.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mp(U) on 2006-05-15 at 09:20:22
No need to get piqued Snake. huh.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Marandule1 on 2006-05-15 at 10:10:38
QUOTE(Snake)Ling @ May 15 2006, 03:11 PM)
Ok. Whenever you go to the doctor, a hospital, or a pharmacy: Refuse a shot, refuse painkillers, and do not buy Aspirin or Sudafed or whatever the hell else.
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I think you have lost the plot
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