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Report, edit, etc...Posted by Elven_Fury on 2004-07-23 at 22:55:14
i am trying to learn PHP for my website

does any one have a good website that will show me how to use PHP?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-07-23 at 22:58:11
The problem is, there really is none. You can try what most of us do, go to www.php.net and try your best.

Based upon experience, 95% of people that try it fail.

You must have some C or other language background before you even think about PHP. Its too complex compared to the alternatives out there.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Elven_Fury on 2004-07-23 at 23:11:35
i have HTMl experiance and some C++ but thats about it
i guess i will just keep looking

how did you first get into it?

lol found one

PHPworld.com

and they disagree with you

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The best things in using PHP are that it is extremely simple for a newcomer, but offers many advanced features for a professional programmer.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by High on 2004-07-24 at 03:28:25
Im starting to learn php myself, i can do like basic loops and if/then/else and variable stuff. Its pretty funky
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-07-24 at 09:38:24
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how did you first get into it?

At the old website I used to work for, we integrated a maps section (written in HTML) with the rest of the website. He uses <?php include... for his headers and footers, and SQL queries for some of the data.

So, I investegated into PHP at that point (not knowing anything). Since I couldn't actually program it, and I only knew simple syntax, I went off to get scripts that other people made and install them on the server. I installed my first script, then left. After I registered Staredit.net, the website was in much the same way. <?php includes with scripts. It was the only thing I knew how to do, and of course, I had my favourite message board software installed, invision power board.

After installing scripts that other people made, and checking how things work was the way I learned PHP. Soon, I was able to munipulate code to do what I wanted (it had to be based upon someone elses orginal code though). When I realized I could do this, I went ahead and got a crapload of mods for invision boards, and put them together to make a website. This many mods shouldn't actually be possible, because they start overlapping each other and so on, but it worked!

Now I've learned how to make my own coding on my own. Thus, I can now code a lot of things, but I still am unsure about making major modules.


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The best things in using PHP are that it is extremely simple for a newcomer, but offers many advanced features for a professional programmer.
Go right ahead and try. I'm telling you, its rare for someone with no programming experience to understand any PHP.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-07-24 at 12:00:58
You should definitely know HTML before you even try PHP. (I knew HTML and mIRC scripting) I learned PHP by going to www.php.net and downloading the manual. (I guess I fit the 5%) tongue.gif
Then again, I only got so far and stopped because I had nowhere to test it on. There wasn't really a point. :/
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-07-24 at 12:06:01
HTML is a necessity for PHP. PHP means HTML preprocessor.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mini Moose 2707 on 2004-07-24 at 12:08:23
Actually, PHP is a recursive acronym for "PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor". tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Yoshi da Sniper on 2004-07-24 at 12:09:17
Bah. I meant to say it IS a HTML preprocessor tongue.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-07-24 at 13:34:15
The manual is worthless. I dont think they created the manual to be a tutorial.
I think installing apache,php, mysql is harder than learning php. ;P

Oh yeah and a long time ago i think php used to stand for personal home page. I think thats what php is in: Php Hypertext Preproccesor.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Mr.Camo on 2004-07-24 at 14:25:53
I have tons of HTML knowledge, I need to learn some other languages before I want to go into PHP.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by High on 2004-07-24 at 17:59:11
All the experience i have is HTML and jass (used in wc3 modding) and the wc3 editor introdcued me to like variables and loops and if then else etc

Were going to be programming in computer studies at school soon so that will help a bit i guess
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Elven_Fury on 2004-07-24 at 22:10:05
i am going to be taking a webdizine class next year at school so if i cant figure it out on my own then i will learn it there
eather way i will know php befor i graduate
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Staredit.Net Essence on 2004-07-25 at 20:48:15
They say its supposed to be easy to learn....
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