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Report, edit, etc...Posted by DarK on 2006-05-13 at 06:28:21
I know there is the post of personal freedoms but id like to make this topic a bit more.. Generalized..

I'd like to talk about our freedom. Not about the Patriot act or anything like that I mean our freedom our freedom of speech and so on..

Ok lets say you discover something, something you shouldnt know, something that would cause a political scandal a huge one..

Now what I mean is would you think that you'd be able to release this to the media and theyd show it. No I belive either 2 things happend. 1 The media will not release the information because their scared. Or 2 their stopped.

I would like to know do ppl belive that the secret service isnt listening to their phone calls recording the numbers etc. Because beliveing that they are not doing that is naive..

Generaly I'd like to know.

How free do you think we realy are?

Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-05-13 at 07:26:17
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Now what I mean is would you think that you'd be able to release this to the media and theyd show it. No I belive either 2 things happend. 1 The media will not release the information because their scared. Or 2 their stopped.

Then how did Clinton get impeached?
How are they stopped? As far as I know, you don't need government approval to run an article in a paper or a story on the news.

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I would like to know do ppl belive that the secret service isnt listening to their phone calls recording the numbers etc. Because beliveing that they are not doing that is naive...

I don't. The NSA is in charge of wiretaps.

You sound a lot like a conspiracy theorist to me.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DarK on 2006-05-13 at 08:00:58
Lol.. I do admit im a bit paranoid..
Report, edit, etc...Posted by JaFF on 2006-05-13 at 10:03:05
We need to be controlled, thus we are free to a certain point. Give us freedom and loose controll over us and we will become disorganized.

That was my point of view on the topic in general.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-05-13 at 11:21:24
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/eavesdrop...6940739303.html

They are...

Dumbducky... do you feel calling someone a conspiracy theorist makes you look smart? Everytime you call someone a CT I'm just going to call you a sheep. Thats all you are... nothing more.

No one just stops at "oh ya we're only listening to SOME calls." It always goes further.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Equality on 2006-05-13 at 22:17:12
Its not like we're in Russia during world war 2 lolz. biggrin.gif
Report, edit, etc...Posted by TheDaddy0420 on 2006-05-13 at 22:35:18
ahhhhhhh, so they aren't listening after all.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by dumbducky on 2006-05-14 at 12:02:50
QUOTE(NuclearRabbit @ May 13 2006, 11:21 AM)
Dumbducky... do you feel calling someone a conspiracy theorist makes you look smart? Everytime you call someone a CT I'm just going to call you a sheep. Thats all you are... nothing more.
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He did sound like a conspiracy theorist to me. I don't call everyone conspiracy theorists.

Who's sheep am I? I don't wholely support Bush, so who's sheep am I?
Report, edit, etc...Posted by Kashmir on 2006-05-14 at 13:11:10
Do you think bush is the only government. No he's just the front guy who takes the fall. Thats whose you are.

BTW its 'whose' not 'who's'
Also check the other threads for the link to why CT's are actually good.
Report, edit, etc...Posted by l)ark_13 on 2006-05-14 at 18:18:26
I think you're a little parinoid....
umm depends on what you discovered.
if you discovered the president was an alien you would probably be "eliminated" by the government.. i mean if thats even possible n all
if you discovered the president has a tale the media would go wild and write about it as much as they could
Report, edit, etc...Posted by DarK on 2006-05-15 at 02:18:45
Ok I didnt realy mean like that.. I mean are we realy free.. Does the government realy follow its own rules? And if we would discover some 'international conspiracy' do you think we would be able to expose it..

Atleast I belive that governments dont follow its own rules. And that if wed want to expose some huge conspiracy wed be killed or if we do, we'd be put in a mental institution


And Jammed I dont mean that we should be able to do whatever we want, yes there has to be some controll but where is the line?
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