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in a rp i noticed a friend doing this, and i was wondering how you did it.

he woudnt tell me

Either a cloaked building is on it, or, more likely, its just a normal addon stacked on a building.

Theres nothing big about that.

I can assure you it's not a cloaked buidling. Also Yoshi, the addon appears to be ATTACHED to the supply depot the way it would to a Science Facility. I did just try to test that in Antiem, and found no way to do it. I assume it has something to do with the way stacking works in 1.11b.

Its probably...um...They removed the Science Facility and replaced it then removed it really fast?

Or its just a cloaked Science thingy stacked with a supply depot on top of it...or something...Send me the map...Lemme look at it O_o

It's a cloaked Science facility with a stacked supply depot.
if you look closely at the proximity top left corner of the supply depot, you can see the blur of a cloaked unit.
Since the "joining thing" of a building and addon is part of the addon and not of the original building it will stay uncloaked.
The guy dosen't have leet maping skills, he's just clever.

I can assure you all it is definetly NOT A CLOAKED BUILDING! I made the map, there are no triggers which cloak Science Facilities. Also, attempts I made with lifting and/or stacking and/or destroying quickly all failed. There is something else going on here, once again, I assume it has to do with the way stacking works in 1.11b.

your friend doens't know how he did it. it's a bug (rare one) in starcraft. I dont' know how it happens but once in awhile, if you life off a building with an addon, then build, that will happen. I've seen it in melee games before =/

If you want one of those addons that work without the base building then use scm draft or alternative mode.

Another idea is maybe your friend is a hacker...

Its a bug. Theres a science facility there, and it looks like its missing the addon extention thing.

Then I don't trust your assurances because if you look closely you can see the Science Facility. LOL

LEARN HOW TO SEE AN IMAGE!!!!

What you can see in that image? Lets start. Orange owns all the units. There are some supply depots, an arsenal, a engeenering bay, an arsenal, an academy with 3 medics, a covert ops with a psyquic lab stacked on it that is not attached to the supply, it just have the addon attachement picture, a lifted facility (it could be the one that was attached to that addons) and a observer.

If you continue thinking on it, you cannot know wich addon have the picture or if both have it. Also, you see orange observer, so its either: you have a detector or orange have allied vision with you. If you check the minimap there is no green point near it, there is not detector, so orange have allied vision with you.

How can it be cloaked, if orange have allied vision with you?! No, a cloaked science facility is not the trick, you would see it!

The other strange thing is the addons. They are overlapped. I tested it and yes, that's the trick. If a building have 2 attached addons at SAME TIME when you lift it one doesn't lose its attachment picture

man, clokr is smart

but its' a bug..not 2 addons.. maybe what you said is correct, but iv'e seen this done in melee, which you cannot stack (I know because the bug happened to me and I dont' hack)

I think I agree with you PodFedJay, But what I was saying Clokr was that the science facility doesn't have to be oj's I think that it is another players that DOESN'T have shared vision on and that oj's addon is just stacked on top of the attached addon.

There are some things that tells you that you are wrong:
1st: The addon player color
2nd: The circle. A perfect circle. There is no cloaked unit there.
3rd: Search in the grass. There are other zones with that effect too. Is an effect of the tile picture.

nevermind, there are two addons, if you look closely, one is on top of the other. the covert ops is below the other one..

Geez... I thought sk8erdude made a flying sci facility just to make others come to conclusions...

Two addons.. never would have thought of that. And I even saw that there were two addons from the begining and ignored it as a trick of the eye... Clokr is way better at looking at images then I am.... obs... player vision with... oooo... sexy.

1. you can't tell the covert ops color
2. The covert ops is the attached addon because the joiner thingy isn't on the pys lad
3. Just because the circle is round doesn't mean that it isn't stacked
4. I do admit thought that you were right about the blur.

lol. Gotta love that spanish version of sc. It even sends me spanish messages over bnet when you leave/enter.

Anyway, the blur effect is actually because the image is encoded as a jpeg, and that's sorta what happens. The tiles might also factor into making the encoding appear that way, but its really cause jpegs are lazy and like to make like-colored areas with as little detail as they can get away with.

1. Yes you can,theres a glint of the orange stripe, And why would an ally make the addon in a diff allies base?
2. Wtf does that prove?
3.dont u get it? the circle would be rippled.
he's trying to prove that theres no cloaked building.
4.uhmm.....

ok after reading all of this. ill answer some things.

its not a map editor, its a rp. and he made it. if there is a hack that can do it i wouldn't be surprised seeing that he is all ways droped. and clokr said it was the timing with 2 buildings. that are in the same place i presume? but how is he able to click on both of them if they are stacked on each other? and he cant use hot key because once he clicked his 1st hk and set it to build a addon he would half to do the same timing... i still don't see how its possible

That 'glint of orange' sure looks yellow and WTF do you mean by a ripple in the circle?

Guys, this issue is settled. Clokr_ discovered how the trick was done. It has to do with how stacking is done in 1.11b, and building multiple addons with a Building. This map is an RP, you can do whatever you want. There are no allies, and it is a place ripe for discovering glitches such as this one. Between the terrain, and between the information Tuxedo provided about JPEGs, the blur that you assumed was a "cloaked building" has been disproved. It is in fact the terrain. There is no possible way there could be a cloaked building anyway, as you clearly have vision with Orange, and Orange has an observor. If it belonged to him you would see it, and if it didn't, his obs would detect it. There is no hack required, if your friend is dropping he is probably using a hack though. Many RPers use Map Hack to make building easier. If he is not, then he is probably "allergic" to X-tra units. Sadly, some people actually crash occasionally in maps with X-tra units. This is the only logical conclusion I could draw, since in my original RP I was forced to remove the X-tra BCs to stop my friends from crashing, and it worked.

PS: The add-on is clearly orange. Anyone who believes different is partially or fully color blind.