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I always wondered, if you really think about it, there is really no reason for us humans to exist. There is no reason for anything to happen. We all die eventually, we all fight to stay alive, but it makes no snece. We should all just kill ourselves! What would happen then. No one would know! really think about this and post about it, I would make a topic but I have made too many lately!
Anyone agree?

Make a topic. It's not really the same as the one here. Anyway, I'd say that what you just said is...wrong.

Of course, there's no "point", at least not that we've found. We all die eventually, yes. But you still have so much time to learn and enjoy and everything...I used to question that every day, but part of the 'fun' if you can call it that is fighting to stay alive. Imagine if humanity just straight up dropped dead right now. Everything we had would just be abandoned. Wouldn't that cause some problem with, say, nuclear powerplants or something?

Ah whatever.

If you look at it in the grand scheme of things, no, we don't matter at all, and we're just one more type of animal here, and I dunno if we were even supposed to form a 'society', or just be naked savages throwing spears at the moon forever.

But thats open to interpretation. Anyway, I gotta disagree with you there.

I was gonna say something on topic here, but there's really nothing to say but to comment on other comments, so wee!!!


Abba!!! ; )



I'd say that in general, yes, but you know it's those who aren't as bad as the rest that make a remote difference in today's world...

Like people do that today too? You're totally right, back then, people actually did crap...went outside and played with a football....not "DAMMIT WHERES MY WoW?!?!"

Meh. Today's generation is funny.

A HUGE problem with living around this time is the big racism thing that still exists, not to mention Segregation. And since alot of us are minorities, we would not like this at all.

This is the best time to be alive. Good technology, right before the decline of mankind.

@:@, , I knew exactly what you were talking about and I said to myself "Kellimus is so pwned". But.. I do think what you're discussing isn't on topic.

the entire human race does. not just one guy. anyway, i never asked him to die for my freedom. it's totaly his loss. im sorry but dieing for freedom is kinda redundant. now that you got freedom, o snap, your dead. its like that.

personally im not gona go out an die for somthing like that. im not stupid. i respect their efforts but it's pointless to me, dieing for freedom ill never enjoy.

how selfish does that sound lol





but like, do you ever step back and say to yourself, how lucky are we that we got all this tech? and anyway, we are screwed in the future. i think about now is when the human race is at the top of its game. in some odd years, we will all die cause we have the tech we were thankful for in the first place. weird thought


yea. it's all instincts though. i agree that it's pointless to be here. it means nothing. the universe is just physics, nothing special that some people think it is.

so the human race is just crap. and we are a pointless existance and we should just go wild cause we're all doomed any way. the way i see it, we should just do w.e cause its not gona matter when it comes time for armageddon. like conserving gas, NO POINT!! its gona run out, no matter what we do. we wont find a replacement. and if we do, it'll be too late.


yeah i agree. it's a great time to be here.

Justify your position.


Would you rather him be alive and enslaved?


But you're not dead. Soldiers have died for the greater good. That is something I support.


You would not die fighting for your beliefs? Would you rather be living under a cruel dictator?


It's only pointless because you already have the freedoms. Let's see you say the same under different scenarios; one where you have no say on anything and speaking out against the government is punishable by death.

Note: The "dying for freedom" event I refer to is not the current war in Iraq.

I would rather have him where he belongs: His home. Instead of fighting for some lunatic and his greed.

That is not about Bush, Kellimus.

That is about fighting against somebody who wishes to use you/harm you. Like the peasant's riots in the Russian Empire, when the peasants rioted against serfage. What lunatic did they fight for ? What greed did they fight for ? They just wanted to be treated like humans.

Note: I do not mean the Red Revolution.

Fighting against people who our government MADE enemies? Terrorist attacks are a normal thing. So why in the hell is it such a big damn deal when the USA get's attacked?

Because we MADE the enemy that we are "fighting".

How can you still not get it? American revolution ringing a bell?

That's the ONLY time america has ever fought for freedom.

How does that prove my point wrong?

And what point are you trying to prove? You haven't supplied a basic point at all. You meerly asked me a question.

What would be wrong with America being a part of England anyway? Things would be different, yes, and America will almost definitely not be the same, but it might be better that way.

we have done nothng but destroy earth. we dont need to be here. we are only making this a worse place to be. and we are screwing over animals and stuff like that. we are a menace.


i wouldn't pu myself in that position in the first place


the great good of who? people dont really care if you die. and some people dont need any greater good cause they a rude a-hole that dont even dererve to be alive.


i would do neither. or if i had to, i'd live under the dictator. this may sound weird but im an extreme rebel. if i dont like somthin, ima fight for the right. now note i said ill fight and not die for the right. if i die for the right, thats just plain dumb. cause then i wont have it after im dead.


i dont care, ill accept death. i wont sit around and get tortured. thats no fun, so in a way, you could say im being hypocrtic by me saying that but hey, if things are really bad, ill take death, otherwise, ill just fight it and rebel aginst it.


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Then why are you here? What do you plan on doing? You say there's a problem; you give no solution. That is the worst way to argue. I have tons of complaints and not a solution for all of them so I ignore those because I know I can't make it better (yet).

I completely disagree in that "we have done nothing but destroy earth." Why? Because it's not true. You've shown no evidence and the fact that there are groups out there who try to prevent the destruction of forests is absolute proof what you said is wrong. If you're just making generalizations, stop going extreme; I don't know what you're thinking when you say that so if you have something to say, say it directly instead of trying to hide it behind something so ridiculous.


You make it sound as if I gave you a choice. If you were in that position, what would you do? If you'd rather be enslaved, you are not like me at all. You're the exact opposite of what you seem to be claiming.


The greater good of people in general. We all benefit from the soldiers' death so we did not have to live under the rule of England. If I recall from history class, the English had declared that all subjects in the colony were officially theirs and they could legally do anything they want for their own gain. This is outlined the mercantilist system.


You are an authoritarian. You know who else was an authoritarian? Hitler. Stalin. People who refuse to die fighting for their beliefs is a traitor among democratic states.


Good job, you admit you're a hypocrite. Why don't you actually argue from one point of view? I don't think I need to say anymore until you've actually declared your own position.


People who die for your freedoms deserve to be recongized. Toothpaste (I replied and you countered; thus, you support what he said) said:

This is incredibly rude to those soldiers who actually cared about the future of America. After you said that, I continued to argue with the American Revolution as my example and you used Bush's war. Know this: I hate the war in Iraq. Stop trying to use that against me when I'm already on your side for that.

Tell me how you can justify saying the above in respect to the American Revolution. So far, you've only been disrespectful.

Edit: Misquotted. However, my argument still stands.

theres nothin i can do about it. the solution is people not useing any advanced tech and being so freggin lazy and overweight. or destruction of the entire human race.


ok, ill be completely clear.

the earth is being destroyed. why? cause lazy ass homo sapians wanted to not be cold in the winter or wanted to sit down and have mechines do their dirty work.

we are by far, the most greedy species in the enitre universe. i know greed is only a human emotion but, what i mean is, we could care less about anythig besiedes our own survival. we are going to end up killing our own selves and everything on this planet.

and our planet is goin down. we are runnin out of gasoline. we will soon over pouplate. we will run out the atomsphere. we will destroy all the fertil soil left.

we are gona tear up this planet. we weren't ment to be so pouplated. now that we are, we are eating up all the resources we can find use of. like we are devouring them. we find somthin, we use it all up.

greed my friend.



depends on what i'd be forced to be doing. if it's like the holocause, i'd just accept my death, no point in the torutre.


would you kill urself so people can enjoy what u did? you wont get anything out of it.




s-c-r-e-w america. all they do is lie to us anyway.
and im not going to kill my self for some people i've never met. im just refuse to.

idk if you have noticed, but im a very primal kinda guy. i care about #1. and if u were me, u might know. i've been through hell. you have no idea. and i can't tell you cause it saddens me too much to even think about it. and not to menchion its and extremely complex suitation.


here my deal:

i am primal. i care about me. i dont care about ne one else. if i ain't gona get ne thign out of livin through enslavement, then ill go and do somthin to get me killed or freed. it is YOUR loss if you sarcifice yourself. not my loss or concern.

i dont care about people i dont know.



i could care less if am respectful. what am i benfiting from bein respectful? NOTHING! ABSOLTLY NOTHIN.

ill admit im extremely greedy. its all about me. if im dead, nothin will exist in my world. im and super aythest. so when i die, there will be a blank forever. that makes me selfish cause, hey, im gona give it one hell of a run and enjoy it. rather then go out and torture myself.

Care to provide a link to where I said this? Seems to me that you're putting words in my mouth to try to provide an argument against me.

Ah, simple misquote. My argument still stands since you were trying to justify what he said.

To Toothfairy:
Before I start, can you please post with proper grammar?


If you think there's nothing to do, why are you complaining? You must think there's something you can do; to complain with a reason is to be unreasonable. You're essentially telling me to do something without any idea on how to do it.

Also, you contradict yourself with:

And


You want the problem to stop and yet, you contribute to it. Then you complain:

Without a solution. Then you make bold statements without any proof:



What would you rather us do? Conserve it at the cost of millions of lives? It is these resources that gave you the computer you're using. The clothes you're wearing. The food you're eating.

Would you like us to take that away? Shall we take away your precious luxeries? Face it. You know nothing of other peoples' problems. I have the right to say this; why? I've lived that life already. I know exactly what it's like. It's terrible.


So you'd be willing to give up your life for nothing but when I asked if you're willing to give up your life for something, you say no? How pathetic.


Do you not know what love is? I would gladly end my life if it would guarantee the happiness of those I love. I pity you if you've never had that kind of a feeling.


So if someone saved your life by sacrificing themselves, you would feel like you owe them nothing? Have you no morals?!


That is pathetic. You give athiests a bad name.

i was the one who said that


i'll try but i got the worst grammer in the world


ok you're just like my older brother. he tries to trap me with his questions


ima make this a bold statement. and leave it at that


im aythest. im racist. im hypociritcal. im greedy.

that is me on a big scale. like when thinking about big issues.

in real life, im anti all that.

to understand my argurements you kinda gotta know me.

and each situation is different.

i would choose not to be totured. perhaps thats somthing i belive in. i could care less if other paople die for stuff they belive in. not my problem.

ima leave it at that.